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What is Hotep Nation, Exactly?

R0ckman

Member
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is bullshit.

Jacobite Gleanings From State Manuscripts Short Sketches of Jacobites The Transportations in 1745. J. Macbeth Forbes.

I believe pages 48-51. Page 51 describes black prisioners being suited for shipment to places such as the West Indies.
 
Elvis is not amused.
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A significant amount are actually Gaelic, have a very old book recording rebels from Scottland being sent to locations as war prisoners, almost all of them described as black with only about 2% on the list being the stereotypical redheaded pale person. The book might be archived on the net.

This is some Space Moor shit right here.
 
Some dude on my Facebook feed is always sharing shit from them and the black Israelites. I just facepalm when I see it because a lot lot of it is either homophobic, sexist, anti-semitic, or flat out racist.
 
Some dude on my Facebook feed is always sharing shit from them and the black Israelites. I just facepalm when I see it because a lot lot of it is either homophobic, sexist, anti-semitic, or flat out racist.

A lot of people, in their efforts to become "enlightened" end up just shitting all over everyone else even more as a result.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
Jacobite Gleanings From State Manuscripts Short Sketches of Jacobites The Transportations in 1745. J. Macbeth Forbes.

I believe pages 48-51. Page 51 describes black prisioners being suited for shipment to places such as the West Indies.

Let's break this down. Even IF this was true, what does this have to do with the majority of African Americans that trace their lineage to West Africa? This whole discussion is about how Hoteps think their lineage, the lineage of all black people, comes from ancient Egypt. You are quoting something from the 18th century.

Also Black Irish is a thing so is Black Dutch.
 

R0ckman

Member
Let's break this down. Even IF this was true, what does this have to do with the majority of African Americans that trace their lineage to West Africa? This whole discussion is about how Hoteps think their lineage, the lineage of all black people, comes from ancient Egypt. You are quoting something from the 18th century.

Also Black Irish is a thing so is Black Dutch.

It means you should probably do your own research, travel, talk to natives of other regions or at the least go to libraries more often.
 

ponpo

( ≖‿≖)
The hell is this. Why are there so many of these guys debating nonsense on YouTube.

edit: lmao the names. going to watch a 4 hour debate between "Pharaoh Allah" and "Shakka-"Ahmose"
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Jacobite Gleanings From State Manuscripts Short Sketches of Jacobites The Transportations in 1745. J. Macbeth Forbes.

I believe pages 48-51. Page 51 describes black prisioners being suited for shipment to places such as the West Indies.

Given that I can find no secondary sources talking about the exile of significant numbers of black participants in the Jacobite uprising, I'm going to call bullshit. If it's true, then other people will have written about it. All I see are claims of Scots sold into slavery, which is dubious as well.
 

Cocaloch

Member
A significant amount are actually Gaelic, have a very old book recording rebels from Scottland being sent to locations as war prisoners, almost all of them described as black with only about 2% on the list being the stereotypical redheaded pale person. The book might be archived on the net.

Amazing

Jacobite Gleanings From State Manuscripts Short Sketches of Jacobites The Transportations in 1745. J. Macbeth Forbes.

I believe pages 48-51. Page 51 describes black prisioners being suited for shipment to places such as the West Indies.

Oh wait, you weren't joking.

As a historian of 18th century Scotland I can assure you this isn't true. There weren't even that many transportation due to the '45 anyway.

Not that I think this will mean anything to people who already believe this.

It means you should probably do your own research, travel, talk to natives of other regions or at the least go to libraries more often.

Have you been to Scotland?

Also your "primary source" is from 1903...
 

Pesmerga00

Member
Man. You guys just made go down the rabbit hole of "Nation of Islam".

Something..Something...Yakub...What is this even?
 

Cocaloch

Member
Given that I can find no secondary sources talking about the exile of significant numbers of black participants in the Jacobite uprising, I'm going to call bullshit. If it's true, then other people will have written about it. All I see are claims of Scots sold into slavery, which is dubious as well.


As far as I know no black people were involved. Certainly none would have been involved on the Jacobite side. That would have been widely mentioned. The Highlanders weren't even used to English/Scots speaking Lowlanders.
 

royalan

Member
Man. You guys just made go down the rabbit hole of "Nation of Islam".

Something..Something...Yakub...What is this even?

I wouldn't confuse hoteps with Nation of Islam. NoI, while I don't agree with most of their ideology, nevertheless do have a rather complex ideology.

Hoteps are a bunch of social media dumbasses.
 

Infinite

Member
I wouldn't confuse hoteps with Nation of Islam. NoI, while I don't agree with most of their ideology, nevertheless do have a rather complex ideology.

Hoteps are a bunch of social media dumbasses.
The NOI has also done actual tangible community organizing in the communities they have mosques in compared to hoteps who have done exactly zero
 
It means you should probably do your own research, travel, talk to natives of other regions or at the least go to libraries more often.

You might want to back off on the snark.
First, you don't know what a primary source is. And second, I read the pages that you quoted and I don't really know what that has to do with anything that's being discussed here.
 

Brakke

Banned
Aww man I thought hoteps were just some knuckleheads who were wrong about history and liked some faux Ancient Egyptian aesthetic. Mostly harmless, like.

Didn't realize the homophobia angle.
 
Dont know how I feel about discussing this with non blacks. I feel like there are some members here who will cross a line when discussing this subject.
 

Gattsu25

Banned
You go from lol'ing to realizing this shit is just sad man. Like the video literally gets worse as it goes on.

Props to David Pino for putting it together.

Yeah, that's pretty much the universal reaction. Starts off hilarious until you see how far it goes and how absolutely screwed up these beliefs are. The joke then just becomes sad.
 

LionPride

Banned
I mean, this is where I start to agree with not wanting to discuss Hoteps with non-black people.

I mean, really? It should be fucking obvious that stupid meme came from racists.
Hoteperry is not something I like really discussing with non-blacks myself

Gets a bit...strange
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
Dont know how I feel about discussing this with non blacks. I feel like there are some members here who will cross a line when discussing this subject.

What would be the line you are worried about that would be crossed? White people have their own pasty group of people that live off of laughable conspiracy theories.
 

Nabs

Member
I mean, this is where I start to agree with not wanting to discuss Hoteps with non-black people.

I mean, really? It should be fucking obvious that stupid meme came from racists.

He knew what he was doing when he posted that.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Dont know how I feel about discussing this with non blacks. I feel like there are some members here who will cross a line when discussing this subject.

I mean, this is where I start to agree with not wanting to discuss Hoteps with non-black people.

I mean, really? It should be fucking obvious that stupid meme came from racists.

Yeah, I'm feeling like this as well. Shit can go sideways fast.
 

LionPride

Banned
What would be the line you are worried about that would be crossed? White people have their own pasty group of people that live off of laughable conspiracy theories.
Boy do they

Ours is just ashy and really really sexist, homophobic, and anti-logic

Plus again, the whole white people created periods thing is both hilarious and sad
 
Is there also rampant anti-semitism in that group?
I remember reading about some kind of French branch equivalent and from what I gathered, they went full right wing.
 

Trey

Member
One of my best childhood friends holds a lot of hotep ideals. I can't tell you how long we have debated about things like history and modern medicine and western philosophy. If I have to hear about MAAT one more time...
 
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