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[letmetrythisname]

I think this is a novel setting, and I think creepy cults are fascinating, but I honestly, strongly doubt this game is going to have the groundbreaking message NeoGAF is hoping for. For starters, this is being made by the most vapid developer-publisher in the industry right now.

 

[DryvBy]

Janet Reno should be a playable character.

 

[Straight Edge]

Also i have a feeling christianity will be in this game on a much smaller capacity than what it might appear, Ubi dont want to stir the pot THAT much. My guess is that the bad guy considers himself the harbinger of a new religion, so he yanked the pastor out of his church, removed the christian symbols and put his own ones in, which is what that church in the picture suggests (no typical christian cross on the top)

This. No way Jesus or Christianity are mentioned. The bad guy will probably only refer to a generic "God".

 

[Protein]

I can't wait for the:

"What if we had a game where black people or town of Muslimz were the enemy?"

People act as if Christian religious nut jobs, American anti-goverment groups, and white supremacists don't regularly take a shit in the same creek. Ubisoft shouldn't back down from the inevitable fragility. Expose these groups for the joke that they really are.

 

[Piggus]

Figured, Liberal-GAF would love this artwork.

What's wrong? Not enough Muslims for you to vilify?

 

[Aurongel]

....I don't think that's what you want if you are concerned about modern politics. The villains in Far Cry 3 & 4 were fairly charismatic and likeable at times.



This is most likely the case. His fancy aviators and well done dress-shirt seem to suggest this. I do like the idea of him legitimately believing he is the Messiah come again or something though. Actual insanity is something you don't see much of in games.

The villains of 3+4 were executed well for what they were but they are inherently cartoony characters occupying a world that is fairly removed from our own. A David Koresh figure on the other hand is not only very real but very relevant to modern politics (at least in the US). The idea of tackling that subject matter and setting it in many player's own back yard is a genuinely original and intriguing premise.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

I think this is a novel setting, and I think creepy cults are fascinating, but I honestly, strongly doubt this game is going to have the groundbreaking message NeoGAF is hoping for. For starters, this is being made by the most vapid developer-publisher in the industry right now.

It absolutely will not. UbiSoft thrives on being a half baked Tom Clancy (funny enough) and barely scratches the surface level of the issues their games tend to look at. Wildlands is a good example

 

[MarmiteBadger]

That's interesting.. I hope it shows up at E3.

 

[Comrade Crunch]

That's interesting.. I hope it shows up at E3.

We're getting some sort of major reveal on friday, along with previews, so if he surprised if it wasn't at e3.

 

[Fury451]

It absolutely will not. UbiSoft thrives on being a half baked Tom Clancy (funny enough) and barely scratches the surface level of the issues their games tend to look at. Wildlands is a good example

WIldlands had some real darkness to it, offset by quippy dialogue. Love the game, but tonally it was all over the place.

It also had a distorted Catholic/Christian/cult theme with the cartel using spirituality and religion to control people. Interesting ideas, unfortunately half baked

 

[Gradly]

This is interesting. Can't wait for Friday? for the reveal

 

[valkillmore]

Will Ferrell as Janet Reno should be a playable character.

Fixed that up for ya

 

[Lylo]

Looks very interesting, hope it's playable at E3.

 

[Kovacs]

Kevin Smith's 'Red State': The Videogame.

 

[CrimsonSquall]

That's interesting.. I hope it shows up at E3.

It will

 

[Gator86]

I think this is a novel setting, and I think creepy cults are fascinating, but I honestly, strongly doubt this game is going to have the groundbreaking message NeoGAF is hoping for. For starters, this is being made by the most vapid developer-publisher in the industry right now.

Enh, it depends. Freedom Cry has you playing as an escaped slave who is now captain of a pirate ship and is genuinely cool. Division has you killing people of color on sight for loot, which the game acknowledges through a black woman you encounter who protests law enforcement brutality and is then killed for loot. They really run the full gamut.

 

[Darklor01]

 

[Messofanego]

Also has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like feminazis?

Not even Yoda can make sense of this post.

 

[Foxxsoxx]

Damnit Ubisoft that looks neat.

But will it be another Farcry 3-4?

 

[heklu]

Aaaand i'm already out.

 

[veloxStrix]

The villains of 3+4 were executed well for what they were but they are inherently cartoony characters occupying a world that is fairly removed from our own. A David Koresh figure on the other hand is not only very real but very relevant to modern politics (at least in the US). The idea of tackling that subject matter and setting it in many player's own back yard is a genuinely original and intriguing premise.

The Manson Family were fairly close to home for many people and that didn't stop them from being idealized and made into a pop-culture symbol. The idea that a Ubisoft caricature of white supremacy or religious fundamentalism could be much less terrifying and much more interesting and exciting doesn't seem too far out of the odds.

Don't get me wrong, I think it would be, as you said, genuinely original and interesting. For a game, I'm really excited to see what they have to work with. As far as the revolutionary effect on modern politics though, I just don't see it doing anything terribly productive. Edit: More like I don't see it doing anything, honestly. Besides peeving the nutcases on the far right and the far left.

 

[HylianTom]

Janet Reno should be a playable character.

I laughed waaaaay too hard at that.

Also, maybe it could be the Will Ferrell version of Janet Reno?
(her special ability would be the ability to punch through walls)

 

[Kinyou]

Warning: white-suprematists and alt-right people are NOT christians.

It is not just a naming issue, you can't say "I am chrristian" and then do not follow christian beliefs.

So, why take Christianity into account in this?

Going by the keyart we can only really say with certainty that it seems to be a christian based cult, unless I missed specific symbols that point to white supremacy. That they're not representing actual Christians goes without saying, but that they're meant to be connected to Christianity is also clear.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Fun fact, the FBI and local law enforcement consistently name far right and white supremacist​ groups a more dangerous threat than ISIS.

Source? Not that I'm doubting, but I'm curious to see how they beat a group that routinely sell children as sex slaves.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

WIldlands had some real darkness to it, offset by quippy dialogue. Love the game, but tonally it was all over the place.

It also had a distorted Catholic/Christian/cult theme with the cartel using spirituality and religion to control people. Interesting ideas, unfortunately half baked

I mean they clearly based it off the La Familia/Knight's Templar cartels which are completely real but they didn't really...say anything. Very AAA video game of just presenting an issue and going "Look at THIS!" with no follow up

 

[Darklor01]

Going by the keyart we can only really say with certainty that it seems to be a christian based cult, unless I missed specific symbols that point to white supremacy. That they're not representing actual Christians goes without saying, but that they're meant to be connected to Christianity is also clear.

All of the symbols are modified versions of the Montana state flag.

 

[letmetrythisname]

As far as the revolutionary effect on modern politics though, I just don't see it doing anything terribly productive.

Yeah, I suspect if they went the serious route it would be about as powerful as a Macklemore song: cartoonishly preachy and ridiculed day one.

 

[dreamfall]

Hype! I'm ready for something different. I'm one of those fans of the franchise that hated so much of FC3 regarding the narrative direction they took. I haven't played Primal but I enjoyed a lot of 4. This looks like something different and exciting, I hope it's grounded in taking down some creepy evil religious cultists. I want spooky Montana, a grand set piece to kill everyone at that table. Ready for a change!

 

[SillyEskimo]

Warning: white-suprematists and alt-right people are NOT christians.

Yes they are.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

Yes they are.

Sigh...

 

[LiquidSword]

Lol any "conservatives" who are offended by this are the ones associating or identifying themselves with radical white militia groups in America. "Liberals" are not putting you in a bucket with these people, you are doing it yourself. Or you are just so deep in you don't believe these groups exist and it's all a liberal conspiracy to smear conservatives lol

 

[Angry Chair]

Careful. You stand a good chance of being banned if you go against the grain.

Your right my bad...I can't wait this game looks awesome!

A conservative's persecution complex knows no bounds.

 

[Savitar]

Going by the keyart we can only really say with certainty that it seems to be a christian based cult, unless I missed specific symbols that point to white supremacy. That they're not representing actual Christians goes without saying, but that they're meant to be connected to Christianity is also clear.

Likely they are a splinter cult like group who broke off to do their own thing, one guy probably claims to be the new Messiah to lead everyone against all the sin and evil in todays world. You know....basically the same shit that a lot of cults do and say. The type that doesn't want anyone stepping on their turf, very non friendly towards outsiders, hates the government and think only their way is the true way.

 

[nynt9]

Source? Not that I'm doubting, but I'm curious to see how they beat a group that routinely sell children as sex slaves.

FBI is a domestic organization. They have little to do with ISIS, since ISIS has no presence in the USA. Domestic terrorists like sovereigns or supremacists are a bigger concern for the FBI. It's a matter of jurisdiction.

 

[Aurongel]

Aaaand i'm already out.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The Manson Family were fairly close to home for many people and that didn't stop them from being idealized and made into a pop-culture symbol. The idea that a Ubisoft caricature of white supremacy or religious fundamentalism could be much less terrifying and much more interesting and exciting doesn't seem too far out of the odds.

Don't get me wrong, I think it would be, as you said, genuinely original and interesting. For a game, I'm really excited to see what they have to work with. As far as the revolutionary effect on modern politics though, I just don't see it doing anything terribly productive. Edit: More like I don't see it doing anything, honestly. Besides peeving the nutcases on the far right and the far left.

Not what I was saying it would do. I admire it for inviting a discussion about these very realistic, very relevant topics and doing so during a time of massive political polarization. It seems like the exact type of premise most publishers try to dodge like the plague.

Now they just need to execute on it.

 

[Darklor01]

welcome to Bozeman Montana:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuNw3bKJygo

 

[iFirez]

So I'm just being picky now but the perspective of the two back vehicles (driving) is off by about 10 degrees or so, they're not driving parallel to the road, they're off.

The brown bottle/carton/jug has a reflection cubemap of an interior on it, you can see windows and things - while they're outside so its not reflecting the environment correctly.

 

[veloxStrix]

Lol any "conservatives" who are offended by this are the ones associating or identifying themselves with radical white militia groups in America. "Liberals" are not putting you in a bucket with these people, you are doing it yourself. Or you are just so deep in you don't believe these groups exist and it's all a liberal conspiracy to smear conservatives lol

Progressives definitely are putting them in the bucket. Just like the Conservatives are putting all the Progressives in a bucket. Anyone who has actually been paying attention to the political and cultural shift of the United States over that last decade should be able to see the partisan divide that has slowly widened over that time span. It's unproductive and idiotic. Most people are either Republican or Democrat over one or two major issues, then adopting some of the other issues from those platforms that they agree with but don't really overtly concern themselves with. Both sides also assume that the entire "oppoosing" side agrees with every single element of their own party. The media and the internet echo chambers enable this faulty line of thinking and the divide widens.

 

[halfbeast]

Spoiler

(she's bi)

 

[TetraGenesis]

Not even Yoda can make sense of this post.

He was making fun of the person he quoted.

 

[yanipheonu]

I'd at least bring up the fact this is the same company that allowed a DLC where George Washington was King of America.

 

[Lionel Richie]

FBI is a domestic organization. They have little to do with ISIS, since ISIS has no presence in the USA. Domestic terrorists like sovereigns or supremacists are a bigger concern for the FBI. It's a matter of jurisdiction.

Yeah I imagined he was talking about proximity/immediacy rather than magnitude. I asked because nowadays I'm currently finding myself perplexed with how cruel some people are, so maybe I was missing something that would be worse than selling children as sex slaves.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

oh dear

 

[Nickle]

They should make the cult liberal just to fuck with people.

 

[Darklor01]

Yeah I imagined he was talking about proximity/immediacy rather than magnitude. I asked because nowadays I'm currently finding myself perplexed with how cruel some people are, so maybe I was missing something that would be worse than selling children as sex slaves.

Blowing up children in an Ariana Grande concert?

 

[Brakke]

Progressives definitely are putting them in the bucket. Just like the Conservatives are putting all the Progressives in a bucket. Anyone who has actually been paying attention to the political and cultural shift of the United States over that last decade should be able to see the partisan divide that has slowly widened over that time span. It's unproductive and idiotic. Most people are either Republican or Democrat over one or two major issues, then adopting some of the other issues from those platforms that they agree with but don't really overtly concern themselves with. Both sides also assume that the entire "oppoosing" side agrees with every single element of their own party. The media and the internet echo chambers enable this faulty line of thinking and the divide widens.

If you yourself were paying attention, you'd've used the term "basket" instead of "bucket" here.

 

[Currygan]

what if it's a gay male protagonist?

What if the villain was a closeted gay?

 

[Castef]

Yes they are.

Ehm, nope, not in a single way.

They are a bunch of people who refer to Christian Identity and similar concepts, NOT Christianity.

As such, they are easily targettable as a "villainous" entity in a modern movie/videogame, as it is happening more and more frequently.

Again, you can't say "I'm a vegan!" and then eat meat.

 

[veloxStrix]

They should make the cult liberal just to fuck with people.

Naw, two religious cults fighting each other. Each side is equally deranged and basically agree with each other except for minor details. You, the Protagonist, are forced to take a side since you have motivations to join both sides equally and an inability to step away from the situation forcing you to play the Straight Man role while surrounded by a mess. Is what I want, I should say.

If you yourself were paying attention, you'd've used the term "basket" instead of "bucket" here.

The person I quoted used "bucket" and I don't see the difference. Unless you're making a joke that I can't figure out through text on a screen.

 

[Human Trashcan]

I think this is a novel setting, and I think creepy cults are fascinating, but I honestly, strongly doubt this game is going to have the groundbreaking message NeoGAF is hoping for. For starters, this is being made by the most vapid developer-publisher in the industry right now.

Yeah this. It's certainly better than another "exotic" (I hate this term) locale where you shoot PoC, but it's definitely not gonna be even as bold as, say, Mafia 3 was, in all likelihood. This is the same publisher that just released Wildlands, one of the most flagrantly imperialistic games to ever be made.