Zvonimir Boban
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I'm trying to catch up. Did DF or MS say anything about how VRs going to be?
Nothing about VR.
I'm trying to catch up. Did DF or MS say anything about how VRs going to be?
I'm trying to catch up. Did DF or MS say anything about how VRs going to be?
Not a PC guy at all... How powerful (or not) of a machine can you build for $1000?
We did it manThey reached 1172 MH with Polaris? Goddamn!
Nothing about VR.
Ok thanks, I'm not surprised. Hopefully they will show us something at E3.No, no mention of it from what I'v watched and read.
Yeah they say as much in one of the articles.Code is not written for a specific cpu...it's written for an instruction set, which in this case is x86. The x86 instruction set does evolve over time (e.g. addition of SSE), but should not devolve. Ryzen should support the entirety of the Jaguar instruction set.
If Rizen performs all instructions quicker than Jaguar, and the code isn't set up to fail in race conditions (in case of varying times to perform instructions), then I see no reason why a more modern x86 CPU could not replace an old one.
The decision to use Jaguar is an economic one, not a technical one.
Console dev is not PC dev. We know we have one CPU we can write for, and we do.Code is not written for a specific cpu...it's written for an instruction set
You don't emulate an x86 CPU with an x86 CPU...there's zero reason a future Xbox couldn't be designed to be fully backwards compatible.
Using my local Microcenter:
Z170A GAMING M5 LGA 1151 + Intel Core i5-6600K SkyLake 3.5 GHz 1151 = $290
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8GB = $420
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-2400 = $120 / Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB 2 x 4GB DDR4-2400 =$70
NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case = $65
Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB = $100 / WD Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM = $50
EVGA 500 Watt 80+ 500 Watt ATX Power Supply = $40
If took the 16GB DDR4 and SSD = 1035
8GB DDR 4 and 1TB HD = 935
This doesn't include an optical drive either, but most don't opt for those anymore. If you shop around, you can get a GTX 1070 for just under $400 or you can go with an RX 480 (4GB) at $220-230ish. / GTX 1060 at $250-280.
Even with the RX 480/GTX 1060, this could run just about anything at high settings, ultra with some details off/lowered at 1080p/1440p.
2018? Not a chance.Well, according to one financial analyst who covers Sony, PS5 will launch in the second half of 2018 with performance of at least 10 teraflops.
http://blogs.barrons.com/asiastocks/2017/03/05/how-sony-can-double-its-profit-this-year/
Well, according to one financial analyst who covers Sony, PS5 will launch in the second half of 2018 with performance of at least 10 teraflops.
http://blogs.barrons.com/asiastocks/2017/03/05/how-sony-can-double-its-profit-this-year/
$399min-$449maxYeah they say as much in one of the articles.
"To be clear, then: Project Scorpio doesn't feature Ryzen cores, but the Xbox team are not so concerned about this. "On the CPU side of things, we could still meet our design goals with the custom changes we made," Kevin Gammill points out. "At the end of the day we are still a consumer product. We want to hit the price-points where consumers want to purchase this. It's about balancing the two."
Using my local Microcenter:
Z170A GAMING M5 LGA 1151 + Intel Core i5-6600K SkyLake 3.5 GHz 1151 = $290
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8GB = $420
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-2400 = $120 / Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB 2 x 4GB DDR4-2400 =$70
NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case = $65
Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB = $100 / WD Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM = $50
EVGA 500 Watt 80+ 500 Watt ATX Power Supply = $40
If took the 16GB DDR4 and SSD = 1035
8GB DDR 4 and 1TB HD = 935
This doesn't include an optical drive either, but most don't opt for those anymore. If you shop around, you can get a GTX 1070 for just under $400 or you can go with an RX 480 (4GB) at $220-230ish. / GTX 1060 at $250-280.
Even with the RX 480/GTX 1060, this could run just about anything at high settings, ultra with some details off/lowered at 1080p/1440p.
This teraflop stuff has to end some day
Console dev is not PC dev. We know we have one CPU we can write for, and we do.
Not always intentionally, but since we only have one CPU to test on, inadvertently happens.
It will, in 2025 when the Petaflop is introduced.This teraflop stuff has to end some day
Using my local Microcenter:
Z170A GAMING M5 LGA 1151 + Intel Core i5-6600K SkyLake 3.5 GHz 1151 = $290
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING X 8GB = $420
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-2400 = $120 / Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB 2 x 4GB DDR4-2400 =$70
NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case = $65
Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB = $100 / WD Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM = $50
EVGA 500 Watt 80+ 500 Watt ATX Power Supply = $40
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I mean really now... should Scorpio even go for native 4K? Nowadays with all those checkerboarding techniques, isnt it a waste to go for native 4K and waste all those resources if the actual difference is nwgligible for someone playing 1-2 meters away from his 55" TV?
Yes there are these artifacts and yes its not as clear and sharp as native but really the amount of resources you save to get this result is pretty damn worth it imo.
And this is not just Scorpio, PC as well, i dont get why there needs to be native 4K really. Braging rights and all, but i would definitely prefer Scorpio to go checkerboard and use all those resources for extra bells and whistles in graphics fidelity.
Just my thought.
Gorram it. They need to announce the damn price. If they can get it under $400 my tune would change quickly. My guess is $499.
$599-699 max. Xbone started at $499 and moved plenty numbers in their eyes I'm sure. Especially since this is just a 'enthusiast premium console'$399min-$449max
Well my friend, Chobel and I made that bet months ago with you and Leeh, so I have saved this for you:
I may have a better quality one at later date if you want. I'll pm you details.
I'm going to let Chobel take care of Leeh's unless he wants me to do it as well. It was a fun bet. Lets do it again soon
A bit more patience. That affordable price of $399 will be announced at E3.Gorram it. They need to announce the damn price. If they can get it under $400 my tune would change quickly. My guess is $499.
This teraflop stuff has to end some day
Yes I noticed!lol, but thanks leeh is "taken care of"
Anyone who needs a catchup.
Definitely. If you've already waited this long, what's a couple of more months?I'm rethinking this heavy commitment to finish a bunch of xb360 games that I never finished. Waiting might be worth it.
Not a PC guy at all... How powerful (or not) of a machine can you build for $1000?
Emulation is for the lack of a better word. Future Ryzen will be cheap and fast enough to probably brute force XBO code with only 4 cores or so. Right now, I'm not sure even 8 core Ryzen can run XBO code with zero modification.
Incase you missed it
https://mobile.twitter.com/albertpenello/status/849999569442054145
"More to Scorpio than just numbers" wonder what he means?
dgpuIncase you missed it
https://mobile.twitter.com/albertpenello/status/849999569442054145
"More to Scorpio than just numbers" wonder what he means?
Incase you missed it
https://mobile.twitter.com/albertpenello/status/849999569442054145
"More to Scorpio than just numbers" wonder what he means?
So, how much more powerful is this than the Pro when all is said and done?
Not a tech guy, is the Scorpio gonna run multiplatform games better than my PC?
cpu: i7 3770k
ram: 8gb ddr3
video: gtx 1070
He means that Secret Saauuuce, obviously!Incase you missed it
https://mobile.twitter.com/albertpenello/status/849999569442054145
"More to Scorpio than just numbers" wonder what he means?