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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Yeah you're right. This is getting all of that out of the way. Odd it's happening so soon prior to the reveal though.
Thanks, that's handy.
I think it's clear this is aimed sqaurely at the hardcore / techy audience and not the general market.
Unity2012
Member
Exactly. E3 will be the place for that. After seeing the DF impressions, I'm even more excited to see what games will actually look like running on Scorpio.
FlutterPuffs
Member
I think it's great, rather than the lacklustre PS4 Pro reveal we got. Some info and videos on HDR and 4k resolution that most of us couldnt really discern during the stream.
Spec reveals are for geeks like us anyway, so for me it's better than that. More info to read/watch about while keeping the big guns under wraps come E3.
Also would give them time to properly prepare Scorpio enhanced games (which I doubt many devs have at the moment, other than the Forza team)
My biggest takeaway from the Digital Foundry Scorpio articles is that an alarmingly large portion of GAF has severe deficiencies in reading and mathematical computation, as well as an understanding of technology that is NOT indicative of what one would expect from members of an enthusiast forum
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Omnistalgic
Member
This is the tech reveal. Project Scorpio, will get it's official name and full reveal likely at E3.
Maximus P
Member
Once again. This was not the reveal. Microsoft invited the guys at digital foundry to go over to Edmund so they could look at and discuss the final specs and DF are reporting what they've seen and heard.
We will have details of games, price, bundles, features and what the thing looks like at E3.
Papacheeks
Banned
You do know there are more zen CPU's than the 8 core variants right?
wesleyshark
Banned
There's been several. But this thread moves too fast lol
WheelHoss1
Member
I'm sure many of us who haven't bought UHD players yet will jump at the Scorpio for the player alone (me!).
But please Microsoft start supporting all this tech with some decent first party titles . . .
But please Microsoft start supporting all this tech with some decent first party titles . . .
Omnistalgic
Member
Being an enthusiast in gaming means you are interesting in how hardware/software works? It's like calling out a movie lover for not knowing anything about cameras and directing lol...
Nostremitus
Member
So? You don't think the guys at Sony also poured their hearts into the Pro? If they wanted it to be seen as more than slightly better than the Pro, the specs should support that. What I'm seeing doesn't. The GPU is slightly better, it has more RAM, it has the same CPU bottleneck.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Exactly.
Which is why multiplatform games won't have a disparity other than [possibly] framerate.
the disparity wil most often be resolution
Omnistalgic
Member
Umm..In GAF's current warrior environment, can you blame us? lol...
Also, I should stop singingly out GAF, it's the gaming community as a whole on the web really.
Leyasu
Banned
Good to know others are thinking of that fuckwit too.
More than impressed with scorpio. Microsoft were smart to let someone else get the specs out.. Crackdown and State of Decay 2 on this are making me impatient
And as I said, that's very weird compared to a normal console launch.
FlutterPuffs
Member
I wont be buying a Scorpio (MS is not supported in my country, not really interested in the first party games etc) but damned Id be envious if CDProjekt decides to patch in Scorpio support for the Witcher 3.
Shogmaster
Member
You go with less than 8 physical cores, you break XBO game backward compat. You can't even go 8 threaded with 4 core Ryzen.
Hell, I don't think even 8 core Ryzen is a guarantee for full compatibility. They really had no option but Jaguar. Even if you went 8 core Jag+ say 2 core Ryzen, then you are forcing devs to basically make two very different versions of the games for Scorpio and XBO.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
I imagine at this point, they feel that they've shown enough detail to prove that it has power. I also imagine they know that people in gaming forums comments run the gambit from reasonable to frothing at the mouth insanity in terms of response/expectation. This is also not the reveal, and I don't think they put too much stock in people's reactions to it just yet.
Please, it is quite ahead of the Pro now. The GPU is much better, it does not have the same CPU bottleneck at all, it is still jaguar architecture at its base, but will be far more efficient and powerful and 12gb DDR5 makes a hell of a lot of difference against 8gb DDR5. Quit trolling.
It is a bigger jump in power from PS4 Pro than the Xbox One was to PS4. I get it will all inevitably become a fanboy war, but you'd think you could get an honest discussion of the specs.
We're NeoGAF, not N4G. There is an inherent expectation of knowledge and interest beyond what is considered "casual" when you sign up to become a member here.
Leyasu
Banned
Ah that's fucking beautiful lol!!
Bustanen
Member
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-project-scorpio-tech-revealed
It's an overclocked RX 480 as Pro is a downclocked one. Vega wouldn't need that high clocks for 6Tflops.
wesleyshark
Banned
I think it'll still work with an adapter
I will be VERY interested to see the 2160cp vs 2160p and if it was worth the year wait.
joecanada
Member
Netherscourge
Banned
So it sounds like it'll be called "Xbox Evolved"?
Shogmaster
Member
It has more CU than RX480. 40 vs 32.
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Formerly Gizmowned
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Okami Haundo
Member
Hm... I just realized that they didn't mention whether or not an IR blaster would be included. Fingers crossed for that one. It's one of the main reasons I upgraded to the One S (besides a price error).
Nostremitus
Member
Agreed. Sony did patent their checkerboarding tech, though... Do we know if Microsoft has an equivalent?
Maximus P
Member
wesleyshark
Banned
Where's that coming from?
Pfft fuck... That's approaching the price of my pc with an i5 6500 so no thanks
Yeah no kidding, I'll save up one more pay day and get a 1080ti
pretty negligible I think, the bigger advantage for scorpio is 4k textures and 16xAF (if the Pro doesn't somehow do those as well)
While they're definitely neophiles I see zero evidente that they're lying about their enthusiasm. They're also a little more than willing to reiterate untested claims about the importance of customizations to stock designs, but given that there's no way to test a typical title running on multiple platforms at this point I guess that's to be expected. Consumers should know what they're getting in terms of coverage this early on. Anything new and slightly different is unprecedented and amazing, which gets a little old when you've seen the cycle repeat over and over, but at least it's consistent. They also had some of the most positive coverage of the PS4 Pro when it was first revealed.
Omnistalgic
Member
yeah, but what's the real world performance of that? I had a friend who played Horizon on a monitor and then played it in 4K and wasn't really impressed. It's a jump in fidelity, but we enthusiast do exaggerate the real world difference at times.
Sitting down with Destiny on PS4 Pro and Scorpio isn't going to be some huge deal to likely majority of the gaming industry. Scropio is roughly 50% more powerful, it's what Pro would have been if it came out this year. It's comparable to PS4 > X1, slightly bigger jump, but again, I don't see the real world differences being that major once the games start rolling out.
Bustanen
Member
Yeah but still Polaris clearly.