CrispyBoar
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Speaking of Zero, X definitely can't be without him this game, so I hope that he's in, too. They've always been a great duo together.
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Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite Gameplay Trailer
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Speaking of Zero, X definitely can't be without him this game, so I hope that he's in, too. They've always been a great duo together.
Anything looks better than the faux hawk they been trying
allenpergallon
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Ultra Ultimate Marvel Cinematic Super Heroes X Capcom Infinite Extend+ Arcade Edition 2017 Rev. B
I feel like from a naming perspective Infinite definitely doesn't fit your traditional Marvel vs Capcom, but that in this day and age it would be detrimental to name it anything like Marvel Super Heroes vs Capcom. I think it's fair to not be jazzed about this when your expectations for a Marvel vs. Capcom title (i.e. NOT a general Capcom vs. game from before MvC1) are somewhere different based on the previous 3 titles. You expect certain things, so when a number of them go missing being underwhelmed or disappointed is an expected response.
I'm not too thrilled by a number of things myself, but like anything I'm going to give it a chance and see where it leads. It's still pretty early, but outside of the perspective of its name I doubt it'll end up disappointing. Already got my boy X in, and it resembling TvC a bit means it'll likely be a solid fighter in the end.
Uh...that was a thing in maybe three scenes between two X games. Out of eleven. X handles himself perfectly fine in the majority of scenarios he's in, and the Light capsules are only a small part of why he got stronger through the series. It's moreso the innate abilities of growth and adaptation built into him.
I feel like from a naming perspective Infinite definitely doesn't fit your traditional Marvel vs Capcom, but that in this day and age it would be detrimental to name it anything like Marvel Super Heroes vs Capcom. I think it's fair to not be jazzed about this when your expectations for a Marvel vs. Capcom title (i.e. NOT a general Capcom vs. game from before MvC1) are somewhere different based on the previous 3 titles. You expect certain things, so when a number of them go missing being underwhelmed or disappointed is an expected response.
I'm not too thrilled by a number of things myself, but like anything I'm going to give it a chance and see where it leads. It's still pretty early, but outside of the perspective of its name I doubt it'll end up disappointing. Already got my boy X in, and it resembling TvC a bit means it'll likely be a solid fighter in the end.
When's CvS2???????
Uh...that was a thing in maybe three scenes between two X games. Out of eleven. X handles himself perfectly fine in the majority of scenarios he's in, and the Light capsules are only a small part of why he got stronger through the series. It's moreso the innate abilities of growth and adaptation built into him.
Riposte
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Chance of Captain Marvel having her old Ms. Marvel costume as an alt is pretty much zero, I'm guessing?
Unless I'm misunderstanding you/the game, this is the completely wrong way to look at it. Assists are separate from your character, like a fireball (but more advanced/potential). Replacing your character with another character is nothing like an assist.
EDIT: If you mean you can literally input moves for a character, who then jumps in from off screen does the move and then leaves, then the game does have assists.
Unless I'm misunderstanding you/the game, this is the completely wrong way to look at it. Assists are separate from your character, like a fireball (but more advanced/potential). Replacing your character with another character is nothing like an assist.
EDIT: If you mean you can literally input moves for a character, who then jumps in from off screen does the move and then leaves, then the game does have assists.
I'm counting on it, actually. He's too popular to not return, especially after being a hallmark of both TvC and MvC3.
If Sigma is in, too, either as a playable or a NPC Boss, it would just mean that the X series makes up the lion's share for MM reps this time around.
What I mean is if the purpose of an assist is to help you extend a combo via some unique property that the assist has that your point character doesn't have or has used up (i.e. OTG), it's effectively the same if you can instantaneously tag that character in to help out then out again to continue the combo with the first character. We don't know yet, but the blue glow from recently tagging in could give them enhanced properties like a traditional assist.
The meta it seems might be a lot less teambuilding, and a lot more combo optimization based upon when people choose to tag in/out mid-combo. I also think it's not beyond the realm of possibility that unsafe raw tags are still in, or you lose red health for switching mid-combo.
just not enough information right now IMO.
You better buckle up. Fighting game prereleases are filled with hyperbole. Can't wait for people to start bitching about characters stealing slots from their preferred characters and claims of Honest Fighting Game(tm)/no frauds allowed.
Pharaoh 117
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That's good news.
LincolnTunnel
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In the FGC I don't think release can stop the hyperbole. It never ends.
Sure if the sole purpose of an assist is to extend combo then this system is far superior. But you know and I know that top assists in these games are not defined by their comboability but by their overall utility in the neutral or restricting the other player's options or filling in weaknesses of the point character.
And I can't be the only person worried by the large focus of combos in the mechanics shown in the trailer. Long combos were one of the main issues in these games particularly Marvel 3 and they are just adding more to it. This is exactly the thing that you DON'T want to do if you are catering to casuals. Even in this thread people have shown disdain for "memorizing and practicing long combos for hours".
So I am not sure what they are going with the direction here.
Mr. Smiley
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Assist weren't just used to extend combos. They helped out on various situations, approaching enemies, creating space, locking down in a corner, getting you out, mixups, wakeups, anti-airs, all that jazz. The whole point was having your teammate cover up for your fighters's weakness in the right moments.
I think there's a pretty solid chance actually.
Captain Marvel stays winning.
If by some miracle Gwenpool makes it in, I want her to say that line for her ultimate.
BronsonLee
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Ay don't fall for dat
UMVC3 sold another million or so too, which is surprising considering how badly they fucked everyone who bought the OG version
And nobody really liked SFxTK after like the first month
Stone Ocean
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Zero? I'd go with 100%, same for her Binary costume
Huw_Dawson
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Provided we don't get SFxT levels of drama and controversy, Mahvel will get a couple of years of DLC support at least. And female characters always get more costumes than male ones. So yeah, good chance.
Killa Sasa
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Looks like TvC which was badass af minus the giants and Zero.
Gems as grooves, hopefully limited to 6, is also dope. We also don't know too much about their potential as a cancel, do we?
Yuge roster? Check.
Only thing I'm not liking is no assists but that can be assuaged, game ain't even close yet.
We also don't know much about unique abilities, if there are any.
We in there, mostly on the back of TvC. Too many people missed that awesome game. Praying for a shitty Zero though.
Gems as grooves, hopefully limited to 6, is also dope. We also don't know too much about their potential as a cancel, do we?
Yuge roster? Check.
Only thing I'm not liking is no assists but that can be assuaged, game ain't even close yet.
We also don't know much about unique abilities, if there are any.
We in there, mostly on the back of TvC. Too many people missed that awesome game. Praying for a shitty Zero though.
That's what I meant by the traditional assist bit, but worded poorly.
Say you tag in Magneto, do the disrupter, then tag out. I don't like this either because the game will be tagging non-stop and a mess of freeze frames, and things wouldn't be as dynamic, spontaneous, or chaotic as MvC should be if you can just block as soon as you see the freeze frame.
CrispyBoar
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Why?
LincolnTunnel
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Do you really think that TvC sold less because it was 2v2 with no assists? I assumed it was because it was a Wii-Exclusive fighting game with a cast that was extremely obscure for most casual American buyers.
Stone Ocean
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TvC sold bad because it was on a platform with zero fighting game fans and no one was about to buy a Wii for it.
SFxT underperformed because it was bad at launch.
SFxT underperformed because it was bad at launch.
Because every incarnation of Zero in a fighting game has been pretty broken and annoying to play against
A big reason why I think Vergil and Zero will be skipping this iteration.
CrispyBoar
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It was the Tatsunoko cast of characters that done it. Most of the U.S. have no clue what most of those characters are.
I hope not.
Killa Sasa
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It's time for him to sit down. I don't care if X is good, I'm just tired of getting chopped to bits by that blonde bastard's ZSaber.
Is there even a game, much less a fighter, where he is the wrong choice? I'm thinking like some late X game has a slightly wack Zero. But I digress.
nillapuddin
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holding out hope this is a bait and switch and the actual game uses 2D fighters.
Tyrant Rave
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I'd be cool with no Zero or Vergil myself. I would like to see Nero in this game alongside Dante personally.
yo_soy_el_topo
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Looks like it will play just like TvC
TheDinoman
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Get over it, folks. Geez.
Why would Capcom randomly switch back to sprites after all of their modern fighting games for the past decade or so have been using 3D models?
entremet
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CrispyBoar
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This. 2D sprites within modern fighters are dead.
Too time consuming & too expensive. It's why even SNK have moved on from it.
RIP since your grip cant last forever.
I don't think so
Zero Is super popular and might get younger casual's to play the game a long with the capcom characters
And virgi's hit boxes were messed up, that can be fixed. Also having extremely good movesets hasn't kept marvel characters from returning before, or street fighter characters. So it seems like a pretty silly suggestion to suggest they will be gone because of that.
Kai Dracon
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Even ASW is in the process of moving on. Though admittedly for those who absolutely have to have the look of anime-style sprites ASW's current tech for GGXrd is the ideal solution.
nah I'm thinking that too. Like the first combo they showed is probably at least more than 10 quick inputs and this is just early pre release gameplay. That's bound to put off some of the people that dislike long combos if it remains the same at release or if stuff just gets longer post release.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I enjoyed UMVC3 a lot but long combos were one of the things I disliked the most.
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Huw_Dawson
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Lab Zero too.
Starphoenix
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All the Zero haters can go kick a rock.
Did you not play any Capcom fighting games since 2008?
You leave Rockman out of this.
CrispyBoar
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I hope that he's in for the giggles.
He's just as popular as X is & is too much of a popular character to be left out.
Baron von Loathsome
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Yeah, just like all the other Capcom fighters in the past eight years.
yeah that's basically what i was thinking was going to happen. get a gem that allows 2nd character to deal the most damage and pick 1st character with most mix up options to tag in 2nd character. would be great if they decided to allow your other character to use 2 different assists to help. seems like zoning will either be too good or will be garbage in this game. same goes for flight mode characters.
shaowebb
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Lol. All the people who say this looks exactly like TVC must not have played much TVC. TVC had assists, breakers, and a cancel mechanic. So far the only reason to say it looks like TVC is no wavedashing, air dashing and you didn't see a ton of beams in that trailer. The only reason folks aren't saying SFxTekken is that it has air combos and DHC I think.
This MVC:I is completely its own amalgam. Its not TVC, its not MVC, its not SFxTekken.
WE DONT EVEN KNOW IF THERE IS WAVEDASHING OR TRIANGLE DASHING.
Figure that last statement out and we can start to get a feel for whether its gonna have footsies like TVC. The Trailer didn't show enough movement to know sadly.
This MVC:I is completely its own amalgam. Its not TVC, its not MVC, its not SFxTekken.
WE DONT EVEN KNOW IF THERE IS WAVEDASHING OR TRIANGLE DASHING.
Figure that last statement out and we can start to get a feel for whether its gonna have footsies like TVC. The Trailer didn't show enough movement to know sadly.
We're talking about a franchise that didn't include one of Capcom's mascots, Megaman Classic, in its last iteration, and somehow Zero, one of the most despised and broken characters from MvC3 is above being benched because he's too popular?
Nah. Also X being in really hurts Zero's chances.
Nah. Also X being in really hurts Zero's chances.
Stone Ocean
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Pretty sprites but animation suffers for it just like BlazBlue
Basically the case in point, took Lab Zero around 4 years to get Skullgirls done and it launched with 8 characters.
Sprites are not worth it.