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NPD: Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 outsold Street Fighter V on PS4

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Absolutely deserved for the time being.

Capcom released a game that wasn't content-complete and thus only marketable to the competitive crowd. Aside from this, what is there is not particularly stable and the meagre single-player offerings they did include range from bad (Story) to completely uninteresting (Survival)

While I can understand and even get behind the move as a FGC stream viewer and a person that has put near triple-digit hours into the small amount of content that is present in the game at the minute, I have to wonder if launching the game in this state hasn't affected the perception of the game on a long-term level. If people don't get in one day one, chances are they're not going to be reading up on all the updates, changes and additions that are being made and be persuaded into purchasing the game further down the line, and even if they do, chances are there will be plenty of used copies out there biting into further sales.

Regardless, Capcom is a business and they made their decisions. As someone that really enjoys the game for what it is, I hope Capcom stick with their commitment to long-term support like they stated they intend to pre-release and hopefully persuade people to pick it up further down the line, but if they don't and the game (or hell, even Capcom) sinks as a result, there's still plenty of high-quality fighting games out there and hopefully companies might take note about releasing unfinished games.

This could also be the sign of something completely different too, though -- That the Street Fighter brand and fighting games aren't as popular as they used to be. Maybe this is the sales figures the game would have gotten even without all the issues. Who can say, really?
 
That's what NPD threads are for. No need to create a new thread just so you can stroke your ego. Why hasn't someone made a thread about the rest of the other games outselling another game and so on? Oh because there really is no need.
SFV underperforming is significant news and definitely warrants its own thread.

This is not new when high profile IP underperform.
 
We're not going to be seeing a SF VI for a very long time because of these sales.



What will happen if (or when) Sony says "Fuck it, we're not giving Capcom any more money for this flop" after this year?

It might wind up being a short lived game than with SF IV.

I think you need to do math and relook at the sales.
Bomb is being thrown around far too loosely
 
That's what NPD threads are for. No need to create a new thread just so you can stroke your ego. Why hasn't someone made a thread about the rest of the other games outselling another game and so on? Oh because there really is no need.

General rule around here is new news new thread. Multiple threads have been made in the past about game sales and the failings of certain games.

Also I literally just put this avatar on today, even though that shouldn't even matter. Would you care if I kept my DBZ Trunks avatar?
 
That's what NPD threads are for. No need to create a new thread just so you can stroke your ego. Why hasn't someone made a thread about the rest of the other games outselling another game and so on? Oh because there really is no need.
I actually agree with this. I read the title and thought it was weird sfv got what it deserved sure but this just seems unnecessary
 
That's what NPD threads are for. No need to create a new thread just so you can stroke your ego. Why hasn't someone made a thread about the rest of the other games outselling another game and so on? Oh because there really is no need.

SFV underperforming is a huge deal. It deserves its own thread. Naruto outselling it is an amusing reference point.
 
Capcom gonna be like pack it up boys I guess no one likes street fighter anymore! This certainly has nothing to do with the quality of the product.
 
Burning Blood is supposed to be more of an actual fighting game, though I'm not sure how popular an opinion it would be to call it an outright fighting game.

They are both fighting games, just different from the norm. Much like smash, zenkai battle royale, pokken, gundam, and dissidia is.
 
General rule around here is new news new thread. Multiple threads have been made in the past about game sales and the failings of certain games.

Also I literally just put this avatar on today, even though that shouldn't even matter.

SFV underperforming is significant news and definitely warrants its own thread.

This is not new when high profile IP underperform.

I just don't get the Naruto comparison. It's not like the games sell poorly or something. Its a huge IP that does really well. Thread could have been made without that at all.
 
The thread is about how a Naruto game is outselling a Street Fighter game in the US. It's not comparing the games themselves, just highlighting the disappointment of Street Fighter V sales.
Is this not normal? There were alot of SFIV (and various SF HD's) games last gen, ditto for Naruto. Did SF outsell those each time?
 
They are both fighting games, just different from the norm. Much like smash, zenkai battle royale, pokken, gundam, and dissidia is.

That's fine. I wasn't trying to imply that everyone hates arena-style fighters or anything, but they tend to not get taken as seriously by the FGC.
 
『Inaba Resident』;198119363 said:
I just don't get the Naruto comparison. It's not like the games sell poorly or something. Its a huge IP that does really well. Thread could have been made without that at all.
Every title needs a go hook. Most already expected sfv to bomb. Than add to the fact alot of people(i dont see how theres been like 6) dont know naruto always sales good and boom there ya go.
 
『Inaba Resident』;198119363 said:
I just don't get the Naruto comparison. It's not like the games sell poorly or something. Its a huge IP that sells.

It was the subject of the article. It would be weird to link an article talking about SFV's failings, comparing it to another fighting game on the same platform, and only reference SFV failing. If you want a sales perspective and not a game comparison, go to the February NPD thread.

Is this not normal? There were alot of SFIV (and various SF HD's) games last gen, ditto for Naruto. Did SF outsell those each time?

SF4 sold 849k on the PS3+360 back in Feb 2009, so it fell by a lot. Naruto has never done that well at launch.
 
Good. Capcom released a barebones F2P version and charged $60 for it and then are planning to charge more for stuff that should've been in the game in the first place.
 
Since Capcom is positioning SFV as a service for this gen, it will likely have decent legs.

Dearth of content is the major detractor right now, so as they address this in the coming months, SFV's prospects should be looking good going forward.

SFV is still the premiere fighting brand, so Capcom needs to focus on reeling in casuals.
 
Yeah, but UMVC3 had one thing going for it that SFV will never have.

MARVEL.

Those legs didn't come from nowhere, they came from Disney turning marvel into a damn cultural phenomenon and capcom having the only game you can make The Hulk smash Ryu and captain America with Dr. Doom as backup.

I don't really buy Marvel in itself being the primary reason for its legs, under that logic wouldn't all Marvel games have huge legs? It selling well at first sure, but somehow keeping the momemtum going for years onwards?

It honestly could of, but I believe a big reason the game reached any kind of status for people to start pulling it out in conversations about fighting games with legs has alot more to do with the Marvel and a lot less to do with the Capcom.

So using that as an example for SFV to aspire to just doesn't quite work out imo.

Why shouldn't it? SF4 sold more than the first MvC3, let's not forget. The first one opened at 2mil while the Ultimate sold what, some 600k in the span of 2 months I believe? It eventually stretched over 1 mil.
 
Street Fighter is dead and you know what?, serves them right.

Ed Boon and his team killed it with Mortal Kombat X. They deserve all the success in the world.

Capcom on the other hand released a half assed incomplete game. They deserve to get fucked over... even if the core gameplay is quite good.


Time to go free to play. (Ono deserves to work for a better company)
 
That's what NPD threads are for. No need to create a new thread just so you can stroke your ego. Why hasn't someone made a thread about the rest of the other games outselling another game and so on? Oh because there really is no need.
I have to agree with this. There wasn't at least something in the OP to bring about discussion of some sort. It was made just to brag and throw a parade because the current "it" game didn't sell well.
 
Boss★Moogle;198119707 said:
Good. Capcom released a barebones F2P version and charged $60 for it and then are planning to charge more for stuff that should've been in the game in the first place.
The characters and costumes? Seem par the course for fighters even naruto has a season pass
 
*yawn* the fgc doesn't drive sales #s in any significant way.

I'm saying the game will be in the spotlight for years. Ps4 is estimated to sell 100 million units. You truly think upcoming owners will care about How SfV launched? Or what will be available to them.

All I'm saying imo a game Like SF isn't like other types of games. You can judge certain games from the 1st month. SF just has other Variables Compared to them.
 
Boss★Moogle;198119707 said:
Good. Capcom released a barebones F2P version and charged $60 for it and then are planning to charge more for stuff that should've been in the game in the first place.
What?
 
Is this not normal? There were alot of SFIV (and various SF HD's) games last gen, ditto for Naruto. Did SF outsell those each time?

They haven't been compared like this before, but I remember that Naruto Storm 4 shipping over a million worldwide was noteworthy enough for a thread, so the expectation is that SF would sell more than it.
 
I have to agree with this. There wasn't at least something in the OP to bring about discussion of some sort. It was made just to brag and throw a parade because the current "it" game didn't sell well.

If this post http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198118441&postcount=936 doesn't confirm him bragging about the subject at hand and this thread being the product of that I don't know what is.

This thread is basically him reiterating to the world that he called it.
 
Boss★Moogle;198119707 said:
Good. Capcom released a barebones F2P version and charged $60 for it and then are planning to charge more for stuff that should've been in the game in the first place.

are you acting like Storm 4 isn't doing this because it is
And what content are you referring to? I genuinely don't know.
 
Since Capcom is positioning SFV as a service for this gen, it will likely have decent legs.

Dearth of content is the major detractor right now, so as they address this in the coming months, SFV's prospects should be looking good going forward.

SFV is still the premiere fighting brand, so Capcom needs to focus on reeling in casuals.

Good luck communicating that to people right now though. Just about every major media outlet is laser focused on the Division right now, as well as a good chunk of YouTube.
 
Street Fighter is dead and you know what?, serves them right.

Ed Boon and his team killed it with Mortal Kombat X. They deserve all the success in the world.

Capcom on the other hand released a half assed incomplete game. They deserve to get fucked over... even if the core gameplay is quite good.

Time to go free to play. (Ono deserves to work for a better company)

They would probably make more money if they did, so that prophecy might come true.
 
『Inaba Resident』;198120041 said:
are you acting like Storm 4 isn't doing this because it is

By all accounts, Naruto is not hurting for content in the base game by any stretch, nor is it missing any standard features.
 
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