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Fear the Walking Dead - Season One - Sundays on AMC

Moofers

Member
Fear The Walking Dead is mostly good writing peppered with really stupid writing. At this rate it'll never be able to hang with tv's best.

Killing off Liza cost the show a great actress who really brought something to the show. I feel like the "oops i got bit and first noticed now" card is a cheap one to play.

Also thought having that soldier show up in the parking garage to shoot Ophelia was super lame. Like he didn't have bigger concerns than following them? Dude was dehydrated and lost a bunch of blood. Come on now. Cheap play for added drama with no real point other than giving Travis his first "Rick Moment". I can think of smarter ways to do that.

Final gripe: Strand shooting one-handed was dumb. Come on man. Anyone who has ever shot a handgun knows how dumb this looks.

Overall I enjoyed it. It was actually a pretty good episode aside from those complaints. I look forward to seeing where it goes next.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
All in all, I would say that was better than TWD's first season so this show definitely has potential.

Pretty solid finale. Travis going from zero to Rick in 5 seconds flat. I'd be stoked to see his evolution over the course of multiple seasons.

Nick continues to be an annoying little shit. That bit at the end when he was talking to Madison about how he was living this the whole time and now everybody is just catching up was just wtf

I actually had no idea Cliff Curtis had an English accent. Godly.
 

Sliver

Member
All in all, I would say that was better than TWD's first season so this show definitely has potential.

Pretty solid finale. Travis going from zero to Rick in 5 seconds flat. I'd be stoked to see his evolution over the course of multiple seasons.

Nick continues to be an annoying little shit. That bit at the end when he was talking to Madison about how he was living this the whole time and now everybody is just catching up was just wtf

I actually had no idea Cliff Curtis had an English accent. Godly.

So does the actor who plays Nick.
 
good finale. lolz all around

Damn Nick's Mom is becoming super hot to me. that voice is sexy.



I'm assuming there is no chance in hell this won't get picked up for a second season
 
They left a lot of potential story opportunities out there in this one. It was never shown if Exner killed herself. Adams was alive (but beaten to within an inch of his life) the last time we saw him. There were also those prisoners who they freed in the medical facility (including a black woman who was glimpsed several times when she was calling out to them).
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
i hope they lied to chris that his mom offed herself. he was just starting to get less whiny...

also...if chris and alicia hook up...that couple dynamic between those two families lol
 

LQX

Member
I'm not sure you're suppose to be able to relate to a Zombie show but I just don't get how the mother could blow off her head in a situation like this and not even say goodbye to her kid. And then that nonsense about you have to off me because it will break Travis. What about your fucking kid? Ridiculous.
 

SamuraiX-

Member
Our protagonists are responsible for the deaths of every person in that compound.

Technically, the military was responsible for the deaths of all those survivors in that stadium so I suppose everything's square now.

I'm not sure you're suppose to be able to relate to a Zombie show but I just don't get how the mother could blow off her head in a situation like this and not even say goodbye to her kid. And then that nonsense about you have to off me because it will break Travis. What about your fucking kid? Ridiculous.

Don't agree with this. She said her goodbye to her kid. She hugged him, told him she loved him and had the peace of his smiling face being the last image of him in her mind and for him not to have to witness his mother's brains being blown out.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
Technically, the military was responsible for the deaths of all those survivors in that stadium so I suppose everything's square now.



Don't agree with this. She said her goodbye to her kid. She hugged him, told him she loved him and had the peace of his smiling face being the last image of him in her mind and for him not to have to witness his mother's brains being blown out.

but its better to have him find her body with a bullet hole in her brain with no immediate context about why she did it? i dunno about that.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
I would expect them to break it up. That way there is more Walking Dead for them to air but because the shows are different people in theory shouldn't feel burnt out or get sick of it.I'm not sure about that but I can see them doing it.

AMC has never split a season and aired both parts in the same calendar year, so that would certainly be a first.

That Asian lady got a bitch face.

I'm thinking she'll be the main cast addition for season 2.
 

Herbs

Banned
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Can't find a gif of the Turn boat scene but that one takes the cake.
 

antonz

Member
Plot Armor for zombies. Never thought I would see that. Zombies are lucky those chain link fences were there to stop all the bullets.
 

TheYanger

Member
but its better to have him find her body with a bullet hole in her brain with no immediate context about why she did it? i dunno about that.

She literally said goodbye to him RIGHT before they showed her bite. It was like less than 2 minutes prior.

And yes, she doesn't want Travis to have to do it because that's fucked. What's that got to do with her son? She obviously doesn't want him to do it so it was never raised as a possibility.
 
All in the name of saving their mega-plot armor drug addict shield and getting Strand to chew the scenery for an episode or two until his inevitable death.

No way would they kill off Strand early. Dude has the potential to be a breakout character on the show. Besides, he's one of the two characters on the show who understands what's going on and is planning accordingly.

The dumbest part of the episode was the "fuck 'em" mentality they adopted. I get why they did what they did to the compound, but they just left a gate open for walkers to get at the survivors in their neighborhood. Even with the flimsy justification that "they never did anything for us", they just drive past a family with children without even batting an eye. And then they turn around a short while later and free all the prisoners in the command post while wasting valuable time.
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
Just caught up with the final. Certainly better than the last two episodes, and a solid enough season finale against the rest of the season. Finally felt like there has been somewhat of a zombie outbreak in the city, though the zombie numbers were still light for a city that large that had just fallen.

I feel that rather than the time the season spent in the suburban "safe zone", they could have had the families retreat to the hospital/base compound straight off the back of the riot, and they would have better maintained the growing sense of outbreak momentum, societal collapse and the military being overwhelmed. You could almost completely chop out the last two episodes. The only major thing they would have lost was the reveal of Salazar's past and character.

I'll be watching season 2, but hopefully it returns with a higher budget.
 

Corpsepyre

Banned
Season's been a shitshow for the most part, but this finale was quite enjoyable. Finally some walker action too!

Must say, I hate the characters. All of them. Haven't come across more hate-able characters in a while. Wanted them gone the moment they showed up. It's mostly that way in such shows, but here everything was amped up.
 

Flavius

Member
Such a wet thud ending to an otherwise promising start. Once again, pacing sucks the ass. So you spend all of this time on character development and establishing a bond amongst the core group, then leave out huge chunks of story explaining how their thoughts and attitudes regarding their predicament have changed. Cold blooded shit went down in this episode. I'm fine with that, but they (the writers) haven't come close to earning that yet.

I'm not even going to touch on the contrived nonsense leading to Liza's demise. Actually,that's pretty much it. Contrived nonsense to check the box in the season finale.

At this point, my enthusiasm for a continuation of the series is severely diminished.

All in the name of saving their mega-plot armor drug addict shield and getting Strand to chew the scenery for an episode or two until his inevitable death.

Right? Gross.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Kinda disappointed Liza had to die. But I think the writers wanted to give him that moment. His character arc is probably the most interesting to me, I want to see where they take him.

I like Strand. He is a bit grandiose and cartoony, but it's fun watching him interact with the other characters.

Despite some pacing issues, I really enjoyed this season. I think they're taking more time to connect us with these characters so we care more about what is happening. And it did feel distinctively different from the main show.
 

Effect

Member
No way would they kill off Strand early. Dude has the potential to be a breakout character on the show. Besides, he's one of the two characters on the show who understands what's going on and is planning accordingly.

The dumbest part of the episode was the "fuck 'em" mentality they adopted. I get why they did what they did to the compound, but they just left a gate open for walkers to get at the survivors in their neighborhood. Even with the flimsy justification that "they never did anything for us", they just drive past a family with children without even batting an eye. And then they turn around a short while later and free all the prisoners in the command post while wasting valuable time.

This is what bothers me the most. They could have easily closed that thing back as well. There is no excuse for that. I was hoping someone would have caught that on Talking Dead as they can pick up on stuff like that but they didn't.
 

Flavius

Member
This is what bothers me the most. They could have easily closed that thing back as well. There is no excuse for that. I was hoping someone would have caught that on Talking Dead as they can pick up on stuff like that but they didn't.

I'm sure it would be explained away as part of the transition to a "protect our own" mentality. Can't save everyone!

That's the problem, though. They wasted too much time playing dress up and staring intently at horizons, zombies, and each other...and not enough on coming to grips with their new reality.
 

mujun

Member
Brilliant season overall for me.

First two eps were the weakest and the finale was great.

I think the show really adds something new to the franchise which really makes it a worthwile watch for me.

Looking forward to season 2.
 
This is what bothers me the most. They could have easily closed that thing back as well. There is no excuse for that. I was hoping someone would have caught that on Talking Dead as they can pick up on stuff like that but they didn't.

Well, if the walkers don't get them, those wildfires that are engulfing the city probably will. I see what they were going for (continuing the whole "false utopia" theme), but it was still fucking stupid. What were their neighbors supposed to "do" against army personnel with guns? Rise up and attempt to overthrow them?

I also don't get the whole situation with Strand. The guy's locked up in a temporary holding cell halfway across the city from his home (despite the fact that there were supposedly 12 safezones set up). He doesn't seem to be a resident, because he talks about the nearby neighborhood with some degree of fondness and a historical slant. He also never shows symptoms and is kept in this cage, but apparently is good enough friends with Melvin (the soldier being munched on in the foyer) that the guy was apparently going to bust him out and give him a lift to his boat, as per the key he pilfered along with the cufflinks just before they had to run.
 

Red Mage

Member
Really loved the whole "they did nothing for us" crap. e_e; Yeah, they're going to gather around and pelt soldiers with machine guns with rocks. I honestly do not like most of these people, sans Travis. I wish Nick would die already.
 
I really enjoyed the season aside from the subpar season. Will watch Season 2.

Travis showing a little Rick for about 5 seconds there.
 

Geist-

Member
Out of respect for the thread, I put spoiler quotes around my criticisms.

Ugh, no redemption for this show in the finale (IMHO). All of the characters are whiny, entitled assholes who somehow decide that the most extreme solutions are the best ones. Seriously, wtf was that? They didn't even care that they were responsible for the death of everyone in that compound.
"Oh, the military is durr hurr evil, I guess that justifies all of my actions."

Also, zombie plot armor? Did that fence have an energy field filling in the gaps?

They should have made this show a comedy, a parody would have explained why everyone had plot-induced stupidity/incompetency, and then I wouldn't have had to sit through that heavy-handed cliche drama at the end. Because someone always has to die at the end of a season right?

It's been fun guys, but I don't think I'll be back for next season.
 

Bandit1

Member
A few more thoughts on the finale:

I'm glad Travis was there to shoot Liza, there could have been a lot of unnecessary drama if Madison was the one pulling the trigger, especially if Travis had seen it from afar. Then you could have had Chris saying, "She killed mom." But this way Travis knows it had to be done and it's what Liza wanted, hopefully he can communicate that to Chris.

I'm kind of liking Nick's outlook. I don't know about "everyone's catching up to me" but it was very true that he never knew where he was going, and now no one knows where they're going, it puts him on a level playing field with everyone else, where before the outbreak he was pretty much worthless. I'm probably more excited to see where his character goes than anyone else. I hope he can get some of Strand's clothes and a haircut..

On the subject of character development, after the beatdown of the soldier and shooting Liza, I think Travis will really grow out of a lot of the hate he got this season.

Also I was really hoping we would see the city get bombed.
 

ultron87

Member
They killed everyone in that compound and probably in their neighborhood since they left that gate open. Protagonists!

Good episode regardless.
 

Red Mage

Member
I'm kind of liking Nick's outlook. I don't know about "everyone's catching up to me" but it was very true that he never knew where he was going, and now no one knows where they're going, it puts him on a level playing field with everyone else, where before the outbreak he was pretty much worthless. I'm probably more excited to see where his character goes than anyone else. I hope he can get some of Strand's clothes and a haircut.

I felt the complete opposite. It was more self-entitled navel gazing from one of the most selfish and unlikable characters on the show. For me, he's this show's Gabriel.
 
Ugh, no redemption for this show in the finale (IMHO). All of the characters are whiny, entitled assholes who somehow decide that the most extreme solutions are the best ones.

Well, it was a "summon a bigger fish" moment. They had good reason to believe that the whole neighborhood was going to be bombed at dawn, and took a desperate measure to get in and out of the command post as quickly as possible. It turned out to be a good idea, because they now have someone with a means of transportation and a potential hideout.

It's just that gate situation that comes off as really stupid. It seemed like they might have been hinting at something with the neighbor's dog barking at something off-screen, but it doesn't make either party look good.
 

Bandit1

Member
I felt the complete opposite. It was more self-entitled navel gazing from one of the most selfish and unlikable characters on the show. For me, he's this show's Gabriel.

I can definitely see where people don't like Nick. He is selfish, an addict, taking morphine from the sick man was despicable, and he deserved the beatdown he got for it. But to me he and Gabriel are very different. Gabriel had a place in the old world, and then became helpless and started feeling sorry for himself once the apocalype was under way. Nick had no place in the old world, and was useless as well as selfish. But I have a feeling we will see him change and make himself useful and that he will find a place in the new world. I think that because of the apocalypse Nick will become a better person than he ever would have been living a normal life and going through an endless cycle of rehab/relapse. I could be wrong, but that's what I see happening.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
I am actually somewhat excited about the prospect of an ocean-fairing Walking Dead season. I doubt the whole season will be on the boat, but I feel they may eventually go on a boat due to the tease. There's actually a lot of ways they can take this, and I'm excited at the possibilities. I will admit there were a few points I was worried they were going to take a less interesting route, like if the military took the daughter and they'd go on a quest for her, and I was okay with the thought of them trying to survive in the bairn desert, but ocean-fairing is a lot more interesting and less explored in zombie media. Even if they wander the coast for a while, or end up on the boat for most the season, or something else, there's various interesting possibilities. I hope the 15-episode length doesn't hurt it. I thought Season 2 and 3 of the original show were hurt at times by their length before they got on track with Seasons 4 and 5 of how to pace it. I'm hopeful though, I quite enjoyed the first season of Fear.

I also like a few of the characters and liked the season well enough all-around, though the finale was the best part, so I guess I'm completely on-board this ship.
 
I seriously do not understand why people take issue with them unleashing the horde. They found out the military was going to kill everyone in the morning, this allowed for them to get away. Again, THEY WERE GOING TO GET ROUND UP AND KILLED IN THE MORNING, why are people saying unleashing the horde makes them responsible, if anything the gated community, and the gate was still up around the neighborhood since the compound wasn't directly near the community, has a better chance of surviving then if they waited the next day and got shot.
 

Lorcain

Member
I enjoyed the season finale. That was intense. I'd rather see more episodes of this group than jump back in with the old WD gang next Sunday.

As some have already mentioned, the decision to unleash the zombie horde on the base was very risky, and could have easily ended with all of them dying. I loved Salazar's swagger though as he calmly led the horde to the front gate. He looked like he was just out for a relaxing evening walk.

I was disappointed with how things played out for Liza, but not surprised. It could have been an interesting dynamic with her still around.

Leaving the gate open to their neighborhood was a truly shitty thing to do. They didn't give any fucks at all about their neighbors.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Might be the first show I actually hated... Wow these characters and their reaction are just ridiculous.

Ending was okay outside of those forced he has to act like Rick moments....

The premise could have made a great show but the characters kill it for me with their unrealistic behavior. Seeing a horde of Zombies and fighting them off like it's nothing...
 
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