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First Forza Motorsport 6 Direct Feed at 60 fps(Gamersyde)
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I mean, good for you if you think Pcars looks "better" than FM6. To some people it just doesn't. It's not like "looking better" is a fact, look is not performance.
pixelation
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Because GT games always raise the bar at release, and they are working on the beefier specced console so chances that it'll be impressive are very good. Maybe they'll fall flat on their face but historically speaking that hasn't happened.
Well i hope you ain't no Nostradamus either
I think the colors are more vibrant than PCars and Assetto, but the presentation is nowhere near cartoony I think.
RowdyReverb
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The lighting looks so much better than FM5, and I'm surprised at the weather effects they were able to cram in while maintaining 1080p60. I can't wait to see the side-by-side comparisons with the same tracks and cars.
Well i hope you ain't no Nostradamus either
Believe me when I say I'm not, would've saved me from making a lot of stupid posts in my time.
Are you kidding?
The shortcomings to reach 1080p/60 are pretty apparent and it still has the 'baked' look from Forza 5.
Also, weather and TOD options being limited to certain tracks and being completely static is kind of behind the curve at this point. The competition already has it beat.
So yeah, your quote:
Is pretty hyperbolic in that context.
Hah... oh Hoo-Doo.
To think these are the same kind of posters that said what Forza 6 is doing now is impossible.
Now that it is doing it... it's easy.
TheAdmiester
Member
Where?
pCARS is the only thing close to beating it and it runs at either 1080p with unstable 60 on PS4, or 900p with even less stable 60 on Xbox One.
There's always Forza Motorsport 7, they can hopefully get down the dynamic TOD and weather by then, but for now, I will gladly take the solid 60 fps render and physics on a 360 Hz per second.
Because GT games always raise the bar at release, and they are working on the beefier specced console so chances that it'll be impressive are very good. Maybe they'll fall flat on their face but historically speaking that hasn't happened.
Well i hope you ain't no Nostradamus either
In limited areas...but really overall they don't. They also had the beefier console last gen.
Would you be able to explain the visual difference between a pre-calculated set of shadows and ones refreshed alongside the framerate?
Wow. You show up in every Xbox related thread to share your two cents. Been busy today eh.
psychotron
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Looks damn good. Can't wait to see this 1080/60 goodness in my living room.
When i said something the opposite, they call me a troll. Whatever. Sorry man, but PCARS with 20+ cars with rain is pretty stable 60 on PS4.
PD really achieved amazing things on last-gen. You underestimate GPGPU and fine grain compute on PS4 which is the lack of on Xbone.
Yes, i did. So? You corrected me then. Thank you for that.
NullPointer
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That track looks like a lot of fun and there's a solid improvement in IQ. Hope the load times are similar improved.
Are the 3D puddles exactly the same each time you race on a given track? I guess they would be considering its the same amount of rainfall pooling up in the same lower places - but after a few laps you'll know the locations of the puddles and it'll lose some of the novelty and danger.
Are the 3D puddles exactly the same each time you race on a given track? I guess they would be considering its the same amount of rainfall pooling up in the same lower places - but after a few laps you'll know the locations of the puddles and it'll lose some of the novelty and danger.
nycgamer4ever
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Not sure how this is a good thing. Three forza games and not even two years? More like milk to me. Same as sports franchises. I never buy them every year.
Chizzanger
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Does every thread need to devolve into "my platform's game is better than your platform's game?" Is it impossible for both Forza 6 and Driveclub to be good looking games?
Forza 6 is a good looking game. Racing games aren't really my thing, but they always look reaaaaally pretty.
Forza 6 is a good looking game. Racing games aren't really my thing, but they always look reaaaaally pretty.
We've officially veered off-topic now, and I think the motivations are pretty clear.
The puddles happen where they do because of the geography of the track, so it wouldn't make sense for them to move around. The goal is more or less to learn them, so when there's wet weather, you know where you'll need to divert from your racing line compared to a dry day.
The Xbox One is perfectly capable of GPGPU compute but it's in less need of it as the CPU is stronger as is and more of the CPU is available to game developers.
TheAdmiester
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60fps with torn frames, which isn't 60fps, it's just reported that way. And I don't underestimate the hardware, I overestimate PD's ability to call it a day and optimise what they have for 60fps instead of constantly adding things.
Leyasu
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I'm surprised he has managed to fly under radar so long... It's blatant
OdysseusVA
Banned
Its a fact
NullPointer
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I don't know of any 30fps challengers to the true sim title. 60fps is still the expectation for good reason, and will be the case in FM6.
Even small variations to the size/volume would add a level of dynamism between runs that would keep you on your toes with each lap. While I love what Turn 10 is doing here making these realistic hazards I just think it could lose its luster a little quickly being in the exact same spots in the exact same sizes - but hell, that variation is at least something to mix up the conditions.
mangochutney
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I think you forget though some of the features other titles have over this. This isn't at the top end graphically, it just isn't doing everything other titles are.
But, that isn't what this game is about. This game is first and foremost about an being an awesome authentic and grounded racing experience with a best effort graphically with the remaining resource - and it's yes no slouch in that department. And that's why it is 60fps.
Other titles are all the bells and whistles they could find coupled with a more simplistic racing approach.
So really I don't see why people are crying that it isn't top of the graphics tree, it's not there to be top of that tree, it's about being top of the racing tech tree whilst still being pretty high up the graphical tree.
Dictator93
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LoL
Some of the textures and environments in Project Cars look awful.
It also runs at a unstable 60 fps at 900p instead of a locked 60 fps at 1080p like Forza 5 and 6.
bananafactory
Banned
Looks very nice but not as mind blowing as I had hoped, the lighting has a bit of that video-gamey look that I noticed in Forza Horizon as well, and some of those trees don't look great.
Still, the cars look great and image quality seems pretty clean, considering all it's doing at 1080/60 I'm fine with those tradeoffs. This will be my first mainline Forza game, quite excited to see what it's all about.
Still, the cars look great and image quality seems pretty clean, considering all it's doing at 1080/60 I'm fine with those tradeoffs. This will be my first mainline Forza game, quite excited to see what it's all about.
Dude, I'll see you in the Rivals events. They're pretty fun. Chances are M0dus will be making some liveries for NeoGAF people, if you'er into that.
You kidding me, right? So, according to your theory, Xbone's CPU's 150 Mhz ( which is, meaningless ) more clock is equivalent to 50% more GPGPU capabilities on PS4. Good.
What's so funny? As i said : from graphical standpoint. Fully GI isn't a piece of cake.
pixelation
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To the guys complaining about comparisons being made and other games/consoles being brought up in this thread, where do you think posts like these one here lead?... it's basically an invitation to do so.
soundscream
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Project Cars has a ton of issues, but it's also not fair to compare it to a first party studios effort.
And with the latest lap time bug that's been discovered, it shouldn't be compared to anything until that's fixed.
And with the latest lap time bug that's been discovered, it shouldn't be compared to anything until that's fixed.
bananafactory
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Awesome, what are Rivals events all about?
I don't know if I'll be grabbing it day 1, depends on how crazy fall gets with all the other games. Hopefully I won't be too LTTP though
H3rTz DoNuT
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So, do we know if night/day, wet/dry is available for all the tracks in the game, or some of the conditions and night races are only available on certain tracks? I hope it's for all the tracks, cause if not, it will be a huge let down for me.
The Xbox One was a smaller CPU reserve than the PS4, in fact an almost entire CPU core is open to devs on Xbox One over PS4.
Should also note that GPGPU reserve takes away from graphical power that can be used for other things.
Everything has a trade off.
Rivals is a mode that is basically timetrials that let you continually challenge better and better opponents for faster lap times.
You can earn money by beating your rivals.
Rain/Night are only on tracks that they think it makes sense to have it on. I'm guessing this is done because of the work load required to make every track capable of rain and night racing.
You won't see rain on Yas Marina... but it also doesn't rain a lot where Yas Marina is located.
What was so inflammatory about my posts in this thread that you felt the need to post this?
I'm just disagreeing with the notion that this game is somehow setting new standards of technical excellence or something like that.
Don't you think that's a bit hyperbolic?
I mean, its 1080/60. Were you expecting Driveclub level of visuals? This game looks incredible for the system it's on and being 1080/60.
Grover Cleveland
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Yep. And that was my biggest problem with Forza 5 as well.
The model work is obviously brilliant and the environments look gorgeous. And all of this happening at 1080p60fps locked is an acheivement for T10 to be proud of.
Just from a pure aesthetic standpoint, the colors are a bit oversaturated and the lighting a bit bright for me. That takes away a bit of the photorealism.
AZ Greg
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Not if you value locked 60FPS
NullPointer
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Time trials against leaderboard ghosts - very addicting. And I love how you can watch a replay of any time set, shift views, go into photo-mode and determine a lot about a car's setup and some of its tuning just from swooping around and examining it on the track - how low it sits, the angle of the tires etc. Forza puts the work in and it shows, even in the small details.
Oy. Racing game threads are always helpful for fleshing out my ignore list, particularly where Forza is involved.
I think T10's commitment to a locked 60 is very commendable, especially with all of the simulations they run to create (in my opinion) the best driving physics in a console "arcade-sim". Add on top of that more options with rain and night time settings and it's a great effort all around.
I think T10's commitment to a locked 60 is very commendable, especially with all of the simulations they run to create (in my opinion) the best driving physics in a console "arcade-sim". Add on top of that more options with rain and night time settings and it's a great effort all around.
Rivals events are community events where you try to set the top time on the track/beat your friends.
They're in Forza Horizon 2 as well but they don't give you a dirty lap for rewinding in FH2 so it kind of defeats the purpose. In Forza Motorsport the slowest clean lap ranks higher than the fastest dirty lap (cutting corners, drafting, rewinds, etc)
How do you know that "magically" 7th core isn't available for games on PS4 also? Probably you will say : "Sony didn't say anything about that official" They should?
Well, how to say, that's a "trademark" in Forza for a very long time. Maybe somebody like that.