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Convincing someone to be a PC gamer.

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Well, I get what your saying but the argument of distraction and interface an be easily fixed on pc.
Steam overlay works great and that's how I normally start my pc.
There are a lot of their software which fixes your issue and
You want to play offline? Nothing easier than that, Steam works great offline too!
Games also just work on pc, if you WANT to mod it, do it.
If not, than don't do it.
Just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you have to do it.
Even if a game doesn't work on pc as it should it's still working way better than on console.
If a game doesn't work at all on pc you can highly expect that the console version is also fucked up.
Consoles nowadays are just very limited pc's with bad hardware, a lot of limitations and high costs and laughable promises.
If you are a sane person who takes his time to clean his room, cooks, washes his teeth you shouldn't be struggling configuration your pc to your preferences (like a gaming UI).
It's hard o argue against someone's feelings, we're talking about machines whiich plays games and I personally would like to use the best and most comfortabe one for my money and that's pc.

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I didn't realise pointing out the pros of having a PC is offensive and degrading.

Just ignore any black and white comments on this topic. Because there are no absolute answers when it comes to what people like to do in their free time and how much theywish to spend to do it...it is difficult to get anywhere with black and white answers. As such, it can be a colourful topic and has got more people banned on this site than any other topic for a reason. Just to declare my affiliation up front I have all types of medium for games now as each has benefits I would rather not do without. I dont really want to open up a discussion on it, but I think I can sum up the bottom line by saying that since some PCers wish there to be more PCers for several reasons (more friends to play with and a higher industry standard for gaming in general might ensue) then they feel compelled to promote the benefits. Some are more tactful than others, but the premise is easily confused in that consolers might have lower standards, perhaps dont know what they are missing, and/or are simply to poor to get the best equipment. As you can see it easily gets confused as elitism etc. even if the intent to be superior wasnt there. Im sure there are elitist gamers out there as well although a majority are unlikely to be that bad.

You dont appear to be overly elitist, so dont take it personal. Notwithstanding, definitely do your best to NOT be condescending etc. and try to be as socratic as possible, i.e. ask questions a lot, dont tell. Ask him what his favourite games are/were and go from there, what would he like to see?, give options.

I was out of gaming completely for about 20 years, started again when I got my son a console, got back into RPG's and then thought I would be "practical" and try out PC gaming on a laptop and not waste money on something unless it had multiple uses. Well the laptop was a gift for the wife within a few months as Witcher 2 wasnt looking as good as it could/was choppy (although I realize now that Souls games had wrecked the gameplay of other games for me a bit so it wasnt just the lower specs) and I decided to maybe get a rig. As a serious Souls fan I immediately saw the draw of 60 FPS etc. and I bought for the PC release of Dark SOuls, and depsite LOTS of wasted hours tinkering as I was/am a complete noob at PC stuff it was still worth it becuase I was such a huge souls fan. So that might be the best shot you have...find something he is passionate about.

I wished I would have had someone from the PC world fill me in sooner, though, as you are doing, although this friend seems not as far out of the loop as I was...I thought consoles were specificaly designed for games so they would have better graphics?!!!.Of course its not all about graphics, or even gameplay, I also just recently got into video and music editing and there are lots of reasons why its nice to have a fast computer in the house. I like the consoles for family games, and handhelds for portability/privacy too so each are all not mutually exclusive. MIght be worth pointing out that a site like Bluestacks allows you to play all phone games at home on a bigger screen with a gamepad? Start with what he already knows.

IMO the largest factor is budget...if he is a miser and does not like to spend much on entertainment then dont be surprised if he doesnt go for it....however if he has a game he was/is passionate about, it never hurts to just put it out there that he could play it with good specs. For me, I grew up with classic games (yes I was in before pong) so it is a huge beenfit for me to be able to play oldie games (although I was able to get Rygar on the PS4 it wasnt as good graphically as on a oldie site, but had better options and controls.) Still, if he saves money on the games themselves a larger investment might be worth considering.

One other point is that it never hurts to gift. I asssume its not as easy to play together or online on handhelds although I realize its possible so maybe get into the habit of playing toehter on his medium first? If it is close friend you could simply start filling a steam account for him when sales are on "in case he ever decideds to buy." My brother lives far away now and he actually bought a rig solely for WOW. I didn't say much about Souls being a great game, just pointed out that we could play together on Steam with a headset and gave him Dark SOuls PC for $7.99 and bought him a $25 gamepad from Radio Shack for Christmas (as the keyboard and mouse werent optimized and I didnt know how to get the mods for mouse going.) One of the cheapest presents I ever bought him but was obviously the most fun and we spent a lot of time together with me having to be summoned in at first or he would have rage quit...he was close a few times. Met some others on steam and it was pretty good times...even had three people all talking/playing at one time. He did some stuff o his own eventually although I dont think he ever got as excited for Souls as I was. Despite being a noob myself I had figured out how to get all the mods ready for Dark souls PC and did the set up for him, including DSCfix which would increase summning potential. It was tough as he had windows 8 and I didnt and there were issues wiith 8 I hadnt dealt with, thankfully the Steam site had good links.

Another example is my daughter who likes Skylanders, all the Wii type games, and has a 3DS. I wanted to justify a Ps4 purchase for Bloodborne and could simply not justify a WiiU purchase on top ofthat so I broke down and got her skylanders on Ps4 (which acatually will cost more than WiiU but she wuold have wanted them regardless so I actually saved a little and got what I wanted as well.) ;)
 
Seems that this thread has progressed to the "Convince posters who don't play on PC to get into PC gaming" stage

I don't see that.

I did see it going to the "I'm a console gamer in a thread that has nothing to do with consoles, and this is why I hate PC gaming" stage.
 
I don't see that.

I did see it going to the "I'm a console gamer in a thread that has nothing to do with consoles, and this is why I hate PC gaming" stage.

LOL, good point...I was trying to be overly diplomatic I guess.

case in piont:

If he went from console to mobile... The so called Benefits like Anti-aliasing, 60FPS, mods you mentioned mean nothings

How do you know his motivations for handheld? I get addicted to a handheld game from time to time and let my rig sit for a week while i play whatever handheld in bed before goign to sleep...doesnt mean I wont get back into other modes. There are all kinds of reasons people do what they do and I am not presumptuous to know what's in his friend's head; that wouldbe mind reading. A more likely scenario is that he likes the type of games on handheld better than the AAA Ps3 ones, and like my daughter, just cant afford her own wii, despite that she has an option to play PS3, PS4, or even my PC. So she plays 3DS more than any other option in our house. Still, I woudlbnt be so presumptuos as this guy knows his friend better than I do .
 
If you have alot of money to blow and only care about third party multiplats i guess it's worth it. Having to upgrade and not knowing wheather you can run a game are huge downsides though. It's worth it for some people, but the majority are definetely better off going with a ps4.
 
If he likes mobile games I'd say show him indie games, there are literally thousands of them, and a few hundred good ones.

Also, don't listen to the people who think new pc gamers just randomly decide to get into PC gaming. I didn't get into it until my dad showed me.

There's a difference between showing someone something and being pushy/forceful.
 
If you have alot of money to blow and only care about third party multiplats i guess it's worth it. Having to upgrade and not knowing wheather you can run a game are huge downsides though. It's worth it for some people, but the majority are definetely better off going with a ps4.

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If you have alot of money to blow and only care about third party multiplats i guess it's worth it. Having to upgrade and not knowing wheather you can run a game are huge downsides though. It's worth it for some people, but the majority are definetely better off going with a ps4.

This is a prime example of someone who has no idea what they are talking about and is attempting to speak authoritatively based purely off hearsay.
 
It has, Jesus the delusion around PC gaming sometimes astounds me. I've run and maintained high spec rig since the early Doom days. It's always been a pain especially on new titles.

Excuse me? A PC gamer from the DOOM era should admit PC gaming has never ever been easier.
 
If you have alot of money to blow and only care about third party multiplats i guess it's worth it. Having to upgrade and not knowing wheather you can run a game are huge downsides though. It's worth it for some people, but the majority are definetely better off going with a ps4.

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I'm honestly shocked how many people on gaf (which I thought would be a site with a lot of well informed gaming enthusiasts) are so unable to understand pc's and try to make it bad without even having one and instead trying to make their consoles look good.
It's not rocket science, guys...
It's harder to get an account on gaf than to build, understand, use and maintain a pc.
Arguments don't work, listing objective benefits and features do not work either, it's like they understand only what Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft or shitty AAA publishers or their console only friends explains them.
 
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I'm honestly shocked how many people on gaf (which I thought would be a site with a lot of well informed gaming enthusiasts) are so unable to understand pc's and try to make it bad without even having one and instead trying to make their consoles look good.
It's not rocket science, guys...
It's harder to get an account on gaf than to build, understand, use and maintain a pc.
Arguments don't work, listing objective benefits and features do not work either, it's like they understand only what Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft or shitty AAA publishers or their console only friends explains them.

I have a gaming PC, I've built several PCs for freinds and family... Your right it's not rocket science... I'm sure anyone here could figure it out.

However I have limited time these days and because of that I still prefer consoles... MY PC sits in my office, I use it primarily to play PC exclusives and doing my taxes. It's also totally dependent on how much $ you invest in it. It's not all the elitists here crack it up to be, espeically if you have a wife and kids that like to play games too.

People that choose to console game or mobile game are not stupid or sheep or misinformed.

I wish the PC elitists in this thread would understand that but I guess when you invest a 1000$+ in a platform to play games some people will feel the need to let everyone know they game on the "best" platform.

That's why it's backwards to think the OP can convert his mobile playing freind into a PC player. Ops freind probably enjoys the type of on the go style games that are associated with mobile gaming
 
To the OP, just invite your friend over and play some PC games with him. You don't have to give the full salesperson pitch. Just show some neat features of PC gaming.
 
It's not all the elitists here crack it up to be, espeically if you have a wife and kids that like to play games too.

My 5 year old loves playing games on the PC. What is inherently better about playing on a console for kids?

Because he has gotten used to using a PC for gaming he is indirectly learning a lot of valuable PC skills too.
 
I have a gaming PC, I've built several PCs for freinds and family... Your right it's not rocket science... I'm sure anyone here could figure it out.

However I have limited time these days and because of that I still prefer consoles... MY PC sits in my office, I use it primarily to play PC exclusives and doing my taxes. It's also totally dependent on how much $ you invest in it. It's not all the elitists here crack it up to be, espeically if you have a wife and kids that like to play games too.

People that choose to console game or mobile game are not stupid or sheep or misinformed.

I wish the PC elitists in this thread would understand that but I guess when you invest a 1000$+ in a platform to play games some people will feel the need to let everyone know they game on the "best" platform.

That's why it's backwards to think the OP can convert his mobile playing freind into a PC player. Ops freind probably enjoys the type of on the go style games that are associated with mobile gaming

I gave up trying to explain PC gaming elitists that there are genuine reasons for preferring console gaming a long time ago. They're too closed-minded to even acknowledge any argument as valid, and will just keep repeating over and over that "it's because you don't know how".
 
My 5 year old loves playing games on the PC. What is inherently better about playing on a console for kids?

Because he has gotten used to using a PC for gaming he is indirectly learning a lot of valuable PC skills too.

I think he meant consoles are better for multiplayer experiences than pc, not about age and stuff. Could be wrong though.
 
I have a gaming PC, I've built several PCs for freinds and family... Your right it's not rocket science... I'm sure anyone here could figure it out.

However I have limited time these days and because of that I still prefer consoles... MY PC sits in my office, I use it primarily to play PC exclusives and doing my taxes. It's also totally dependent on how much $ you invest in it. It's not all the elitists here crack it up to be, espeically if you have a wife and kids that like to play games too.

People that choose to console game or mobile game are not stupid or sheep or misinformed.

I wish the PC elitists in this thread would understand that but I guess when you invest a 1000$+ in a platform to play games some people will feel the need to let everyone know they game on the "best" platform.

That's why it's backwards to think the OP can convert his mobile playing freind into a PC player. Ops freind probably enjoys the type of on the go style games that are associated with mobile gaming

Even if you just invest 300 USD smart in used pc parts you still get way better system than a console.
It doesn't matter if cheap PC or high end pc's, games runs even on very outdated pc's in higher settings, resolutions and framerates than a PS4.
And the leap is getting bigger every day, parts getting cheaper, while the consoles and their games and hardware don't really change much in price.
It's just a smarter choice to go pc.
Especially if you don't have a lot of money.
 
Read him this list and/or show him things from it

  • Games are cheaper
  • Online play is free
  • Mods
  • Multi-monitor support
  • More controller variety
  • Better graphics
  • Better performance
  • Choose graphics to performance yourself (scalability)
  • Backwards compatible library of games that goes back decades
  • Emulators to play older console games and improve their graphics and performance
  • More variety in genres

I don't know why any gamer would not value at least a few things from that list.
 
Even if you just invest 300 USD smart in used pc parts you still get way better system than a console.
It doesn't matter if cheap PC or high end pc's, games runs even on very outdated pc's in higher settings, resolutions and framerates than a PS4.
And the leap is getting bigger every day, parts getting cheaper, while the consoles and their games and hardware don't really change much in price.
It's just a smarter choice to go pc.
Especially if you don't have a lot of money.

Why is the majority of your argument constantly about graphics? Why is that enough of a reason to consider gaming on a PC "better"?

Personally, as someone who has been playing on both console and PC for almost 30 years this uprising of proselytizing for PC has been so aggravating, almost solely because all the PC Master Race ever seem to focus on is the graphics. There are so many more unique reasons that set PC gaming apart from consoles, yet I also recognize that many of those things I like about PC gaming, I like being able to avoid those things when I play on a console. Tinkering with settings on an emulator is part of the joy of PC gaming, but I know that's about as exciting to some people as changing the oil in their car.
 
I gave up trying to explain PC gaming elitists that there are genuine reasons for preferring console gaming a long time ago. They're too closed-minded to even acknowledge any argument as valid, and will just keep repeating over and over that "it's because you don't know how".

Riiiight, because that's what we're saying here, that console gmaing isn't viable... that's the ticket!

Or maybe no, we aren't saying that at all, no one brought up consoles until console gamers threadshitting brought it up, and now the whoel thread is a bunch of people like you jumping in to say why they hate PC gaming.

GTFO wiht that shit.
 
People that choose to console game or mobile game are not stupid or sheep or misinformed.

I wish the PC elitists in this thread would understand that but I guess when you invest a 1000$+ in a platform to play games some people will feel the need to let everyone know they game on the "best" platform.

There are perfectly valid reasons to not play on PC and just use consoles.

But when people spout lies like this, well it's hard to not view some console gamers as misinformed.

Besides, would you really believe your average COD console gamer knows what PC gaming is truly like?
 
I think he meant consoles are better for multiplayer experiences than pc, not about age and stuff. Could be wrong though.

The quote I replied to seemed pretty straightforward. PC gaming isn't for kids and wives apparently. I just want to know why.
 
The quote I replied to seemed pretty straightforward. PC gaming isn't for kids and wives apparently. I just want to know why.

It's also not for people with families, so that rules most of the world. Which is why PC gamers are just me and my 5 friends. Oh wait I have a family! So I guess I must not PC game...
 
Why is the majority of your argument constantly about graphics? Why is that enough of a reason to consider gaming on a PC "better"?

That's the easiest and most obvious reason for gaming.
All the other reasons which are stated in a other comment I don't wanna repeat.
People here know what a pc is, right?
You can other stuff besides gaming on it, hopefully we don't have to explain it AGAIN.
Ok, I stop now replying to those comments.
Al hail 792p, 24fps, cinematic borders, very-low middle settings, 70 Dollar games, no mods, cheaply made hardware,no pracitcality besides standard video features and a bit browsing (what every smartphone does better), one 500gb hdd, no Anti Aliasing and no Anastrophic Filtering!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TKvrJD5OD8#t=30
 
The quote I replied to seemed pretty straightforward. PC gaming isn't for kids and wives apparently. I just want to know why.

That part sounded to me more like a problem with the number of people wanting to play instead of pc gamig not being for kids or wives. But like I said, I could be wrong.
 
Even if you just invest 300 USD smart in used pc parts you still get way better system than a console.
It doesn't matter if cheap PC or high end pc's, games runs even on very outdated pc's in higher settings, resolutions and framerates than a PS4.
And the leap is getting bigger every day, parts getting cheaper, while the consoles and their games and hardware don't really change much in price.
It's just a smarter choice to go pc.
Especially if you don't have a lot of money.

It's really not so black and white. It will be the smarter choice for some but not for others.

a windows license, a decent monitor, and a case/psu will run you about 300$... And if your actually interested in getting good performance out of your PC games across the board your not going to buy a bunch of cheap used parts that you will most certainly have to upgrade in a year or two.

It's reall not so cut and dry
 
Besides, would you really believe your average COD console gamer knows what PC gaming is truly like?

Do you actually think your average COD gamer cares? Seriously, it's one of, if not the highest selling games every year. We're talking mass market, casual, hardcore, ages 10-50 crowd here. It's a little odd to say that they're "missing out" on something when they're perfectly content with how they play already.
 
I gave up trying to explain PC gaming elitists that there are genuine reasons for preferring console gaming a long time ago. They're too closed-minded to even acknowledge any argument as valid, and will just keep repeating over and over that "it's because you don't know how".

I don't know if it's so much that they're closed minded, rather the console people tend to use misinformation(PC's super expensive, endless tweaking, need a degree to assemble) to reinforce their arguments. PC enthusiasts usually try to clear up the misinformation, for which console gamers reply "OMG, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST RESPECT MY GAMING DECISIONS!"
 
I think the most interesting thing with PC gaming is how it seems like PC gamers are able to build better communities for their game of choice. Of course MMOs foster this already but I just feel like I see PC gamers more connected (this might also be because of the mod community).

The only console game that made me feel like this recently was Destiny.

I think it is just important to remember that people are different and some may enjoy their gaming on a console and other may enjoy it on a PC; regardless of pros and cons we all may list.
 
It's really not so black and white. It will be the smarter choice for some but not for others.

a windows license, a decent monitor, and a case/psu will run you about 300$... And if your actually interested in getting good performance out of your PC games across the board your not going to buy a bunch of cheap used parts that you will most certainly have to upgrade in a year or two.

It's reall not so cut and dry

Why are you factoring in the monitor cost for a PC, but not the television cost for a console?

You know both can be run on either monitor or television, right? The assumption here is that you have a screen.

You may choose to keep your PC in your office and only do taxes on it, but that is entirely on you and no one else.
 
Why are you factoring in the monitor cost for a PC, but not the television cost for a console?

You know both can be run on either monitor or television, right? The assumption here is that you have a screen.

You may choose to keep your PC in your office and only do taxes on it, but that is entirely on you and no one else.

To be fair, the likelihood of a household having a television is much higher than that of one having a monitor (ignoring quality for both of course). So the start up cost is removed for that. But that does not ignore the fact that people will always upgrade their television and monitors eventually.
 
I don't know if it's so much that they're closed minded, rather the console people tend to use misinformation(PC's super expensive, endless tweaking, need a degree to assemble) to reinforce their arguments. PC enthusiasts usually try to clear up the misinformation, for which console gamers reply "OMG, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST RESPECT MY GAMING DECISIONS!"
uh...
The quote I replied to seemed pretty straightforward. PC gaming isn't for kids and wives apparently. I just want to know why.


It's also not for people with families, so that rules most of the world. Which is why PC gamers are just me and my 5 friends. Oh wait I have a family! So I guess I must not PC game...

Yeah, PC gamers are the one's "clearing up the misinformation" all right, not at all the ones being obtuse and elitist.

Look, I like putting a PC together. But I know that most gamers don't. I'm just sick of seeing PCMR's constantly claim that console gamers believe you need a degree to put a PC together. Console gamers don't think that. It's just not something they want to do.
 
Even if you just invest 300 USD smart in used pc parts you still get way better system than a console.
It doesn't matter if cheap PC or high end pc's, games runs even on very outdated pc's in higher settings, resolutions and framerates than a PS4.
And the leap is getting bigger every day, parts getting cheaper, while the consoles and their games and hardware don't really change much in price.
It's just a smarter choice to go pc.
Especially if you don't have a lot of money.
I'm actually really interested in getting in to PC gaming. I think from a library point of view it's by far the best platform. It's doing digital better than consoles and the software pricing is better.

I am a fucking moron when it come to tech. I have no idea where to begin in building a decent rig for an affordable price. It's what has turned me away from the platform for a long time. Too confusing and too expensive. I want you to back up what you just said and point me to PC parts that will get me a PC at least on par with PS4 for a comparable price point to a console. I would greatly appreciate it.
 
Do you actually think your average COD gamer cares? Seriously, it's one of, if not the highest selling games every year. We're talking mass market, casual, hardcore, ages 10-50 crowd here. It's a little odd to say that they're "missing out" on something when they're perfectly content with how they play already.

Exactly, they don't care. The majority of console gamers are misinformed, and no I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Because you play what you like.

But when someone comes and says that console gamers are in fact informed about PC gaming (aside from the small minority of course) I'm going to call bs.
 
To be fair, the likelihood of a household having a television is much higher than that of one having a monitor (ignoring quality for both of course). So the start up cost is removed for that. But that does not ignore the fact that people will always upgrade their television and monitors eventually.

You think so?

Either way, it doesn't really matter since you can use a PC on a TV just fine as long as it's at least 720p or so.
 
Why are you factoring in the monitor cost for a PC, but not the television cost for a console?

You know both can be run on either monitor or television, right? The assumption here is that you have a screen.

You may choose to keep your PC in your office and only do taxes on it, but that is entirely on you and no one else.

Either way my point still stands... Who here is gaming on a PC that they spent 300$ on?

I'd wager the average Msrp of the computers people own here are easily in the 1000+$ dollar range... If you only have 300$ to spend your not going to go try and put together a PC you will just buy a PS4/XB1
 
Yeah, Pc gamers are the one's "clearing up the misinformation" all right, not at all the ones being obtuse and elitist.

What? Those were both in reply to the guy who posted some nonsense about having a wife and kids about why a console is better. Apparently the guy thinks operating a PC is beyond his wife and kids, while somehow modern consoles are any easier.
 
It's really not so black and white. It will be the smarter choice for some but not for others.

a windows license, a decent monitor, and a case/psu will run you about 300$... And if your actually interested in getting good performance out of your PC games across the board your not going to buy a bunch of cheap used parts that you will most certainly have to upgrade in a year or two.

It's reall not so cut and dry

Windows license costs 15 bucks, you can easily get it almost for free.
A decent monitor? Didn't know that consoles came with monitors or tv's, my bad.
Linus made a contest with one of his employee to build a pc for 300 CAD which is way lower than 300 USD and still get's way higher performance than any console with both pc's (he teased it and the hardware they're getting are definitely better than what you have in consoles).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1JA24KCAjE&ab_channel=LinusTechTips

They will not be able to play on 1080p/60fps with Ultra settings on every game with this hardware but it's still decent enough to beat consoles.
 
What is obtuse and elitist about my question? I responded to a comment with a simple question.

Lol looks like I'm only quoting people to say they are misreading stuff. And you're the chosen one Dapperk. Sorry about that.

I think he was talking about Kinthalis answer to your quote lol.
 
I built my first PC in 10 years (basically since Steam came out) and it cost me about 1500$ all in, but every single game on it is cheaper, and better looking than it's console counterpart. Loads faster, more options, mods etc. I still have a place for my PS4 (Bloodborne) Wii U (Nintendo) X1 (Halo 5) but pretty much all my gaming that doesnt need to be on a console is now on my PC.
 
I'm actually really interested in getting in to PC gaming. I think from a library point of view it's by far the best platform. It's doing digital better than consoles and the software pricing is better.

I am a fucking moron when it come to tech. I have no idea where to begin in building a decent rig for an affordable price. It's what has turned me away from the platform for a long time. Too confusing and too expensive. I want you to back up what you just said and point me to PC parts that will get me a PC at least on par with PS4 for a comparable price point to a console. I would greatly appreciate it.

I'm sure you could scrape together a console-performance type system for around $300 if you really tried and got some good deals on second hand stuff, but I don't recommend building a PC to play games on for $300.

If you're seriously interested, save like $800 or more and get yourself a decent system full of brand new parts (refurbs are probably fine too).
There's PLENTY of videos on youtube and plenty of threads on forums all over the internet that'll help you.
 
PC gaming is now cheaper and more accessible than console gaming with most of the same titles.

Next year will be the coming out party for the steam box which should seal the deal.
 
Exactly, they don't care. The majority of console gamers are misinformed, and no I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Because you play what you like.

But when someone comes and says that console gamers are in fact informed about PC gaming (aside from the small minority of course) I'm going to call bs.


Stop. Not caring and being misinformed do not go hand in hand. Even if they are or are not informed, what does that matter? How is that a hindrance of PC gaming or your enjoyment of it?
 
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