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Well I'd consider them clones if I were to use Smash terms just because of the base moveset personally. Doesn't mean I don't know they have different frame data/normals/Ultras/playstyle/etc. But it's arguing semantics on what defines a clone when really the important issue is, if they recycle move animations, is the new character providing the game with a different playstyle to add both padding AND variety to the game? For Smash I think most of the clones do this.because most people are dumb
Anyway is there a write up or WIP write up on the full list of differences of Pit/Dark Pit?
MrSaturn99
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wait dimmle hold on a minute
when you said "Dream Land" earlier were you referring to the Game Boy one or the N64/Melee one
when you said "Dream Land" earlier were you referring to the Game Boy one or the N64/Melee one
Spinosaurus
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Jawmuncher
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Dark Pit has less arrow control but stronger arrows (his arrows are not faster or slower)
Dark Pit's Side-B does 0.5% more damage and launches at a diagonal angle instead of Pit's directly upward angle
Final Smashes
Definitely the best clone we have ever got.
Beelzebufo
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As much as I like Dark Pit, I don't get why:
The silver bow shoots dark arrows
They gave him the electroshock arm, which is like the ugliest one.
But hey, if you go by final smashes, he's less of a clone than wolf!
I swear there will not be a time when I fight Shulk and don't underestimate the active frames on his counter. It lasts so damn long!
I'm finally getting back into the groove of playing Marcina. I mained Marth in Melee and Brawl, but I was really rusty going into this game. Still miss my C-stick though. :<
Also, I have yet to face a Little Mac in For Glory. Weird!
I'm finally getting back into the groove of playing Marcina. I mained Marth in Melee and Brawl, but I was really rusty going into this game. Still miss my C-stick though. :<
Also, I have yet to face a Little Mac in For Glory. Weird!
Nocturnowl
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We needed Dark Pit as a clone instead of a costume for those unique taunts and victory theme, it was the right choice.
Beelzebufo
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His taunts aren't that great (bring back "The Fight is On!"), but you've it a point about that victory theme.
Spinosaurus
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There aren't many characters who talk shit in Smash. I agree.
PadWarrior
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With amiibos and smash u it's going to be a smashing holiday season
Good writeup. I'll share a few cents regarding some attacks as well:
F-Smash is great, however, I feel its usefulness is on a character by character basis. I had multiple matches with Yoshi in which he ducks under your f-smash's hitbox if you try to punish some of his tilts or d-smash.
I actually find the up-air to be a great follow-up to launched opponents. It comes out rather quick, so hopping up last minute and sweet-spotting the up-air can lead to some early kills.
I feel like the d-smash is my default smash attack for most scenarios. While it has slightly shorter range than f-smash, it suffers from less lag, making it prime for catching dodge-rolls.
WFT's d-tilt is hilarious in itself, but it does fair damage (~12%?), and is a good follow-up to your jab-ender planting opponents into the ground.
MrSaturn99
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PadWarrior
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I have shamed myselfyou're forgetting something
Beelzebufo
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I think it was implied with "Smash U" lol, how else would one play?you're forgetting something
Nocturnowl
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Somewhat related I like when the more snarky victory comments come up suitably when my opponent suicides in their attempts to beat me.
Fave three in this event
Ike: You'll get no sympathy from me
Palutena: Too bad for you
Dark Pit: Can't help but feel sorry for you
Puts a shit eating grin on my face.
Wreck-It Ralph
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I feel like Sakurai only added Dark Pit as a separate character so he could give him a cool victory theme.
Beelzebufo
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I do from time to time, but I'm not great with him. Best advice I could give is that down tilt works great for punishing rolls.
Oh, and don't be afraid to use Down B!
peanutbutterlatte
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Worth it. Dark Pit's theme is better than Dark Pit.
Well he added Dr Mario originally just to add his theme (and then added the themes of other games that didn't have fighters ) so that is possible.
I play Ludwig. Basically dash A with the saw is really good and long, and if you can pull off something like hitting him with the hammer after a B+up when you're in the air after he gets launched by the explosion then it feels pretty badass and can equal a KO with low damage
im just having fun with it and it's of course an unexpected character to most people so it works, can't offer much advice
Good for me. Pit is the best character in the game anyways. It's kinda hard to change perfection. So satisfying KOing people with Electroshock.
- Always have a Mecha Koopa on the field!
- Use cannonballs to force recovering opponents to jump early
- Jab, jab, jab with the boxing gloves if you need space
- Dash attack (buzzsaw) is good approach option
- Drills (forward smash) are great kill move
- Can KO by dropping car on opponents with Up Special
- Can KO by swinging hammer while free-falling after using Up Special
- Can KO with the Side Special and use it as horizontal recovery
- Side Special can be linked into Up Special for extended recovery
Will start using that down tilt and will make use of down B more!
Ya I've nailed that on ppl before, shits so fun to do! my game plan atm is use up B a lot and fish for hammers, sometimes go kart it up as well lmao
Ayeeee that's what I'm talking about, thank you!
Does anyone else feel kind of bad when you spam certain moves online? I've gotten pretty good with Shulk, but my strategy pretty much involves using backslash over and over again. It seems like people always quit on me if I play as Shulk for my first match with them, and I'm not sure it's because they hate me or the connection is laggy.
I was annoyed once by a Shulk who mainly just countered. You can work around such tactics but it just makes for a dull match overall.
There was also a psycho Ike who constantly did his Side Special, Up Special and Counter and nothing else. After a while I learned to bait him into his Side Special and stunned him with Zero Suit's Paralyzer.
peanutbutterlatte
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss Pit's troll "HIYAYAYAAAAA" side B 
Chezzymann
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Perfection
Perfection
lol
Awesome then.
No matter how convenient, it still seems like it'll always be a bit crazy to do when 1.5 months later we're getting official support for the GCN pad. If not for the Wii U version though, I'd be seriously studying how to follow the guide and make this happen.
PadWarrior
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I bet lucina was your first unlock lol
I have no idea how I got Ness so early. I just played a couple of solo matches and then it said challenger approaching or whatever. Didn't really play any other side game when I first got it.
bennywhatever
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Trying to get the "Place First with Every Character in Smash Run," and man, I suuuuuuuuuuuuck with Rosalina. It look 4 tries while I haven't not won yet with any other character. I just don't get how she works.
Also Wii Fit Trainer can crouch under some projectiles like Megaman's lemons.
For Sweeping Sun Salutation, I'm not sure what you can do. I would say don't let me charge it, but if I get you off stage it's generally a free full charge. Maybe don't shield it on stage at least but roll through it towards me? I don't know if that will work well since I could probably punish the roll with a dash attack. Volatile Breathing is hard to deal with because I usually use it in the air while my opponent is still on the ground and far away from me. I would just stay away from WFT when she's about to do it in the air since you can't really punish after the explosion, but that gives her more breathing room to toss out projectiles. I actually don't know how the armor works on it. It's weird.
Maybe I'll see their weaknesses eventually if I play more people. Characters with a reflector definitely mitigates my usage of Sweeping Sun Salutation.
Oh yeah, I hate that F-smash can miss like that lol. Hmm, maybe I'll chase with up-air more often after I launch the opponent.
If it works and you're having fun doing the same move then keep doing it, but if the opponent starts learning then switch it up.
For Sweeping Sun Salutation, I'm not sure what you can do. I would say don't let me charge it, but if I get you off stage it's generally a free full charge. Maybe don't shield it on stage at least but roll through it towards me? I don't know if that will work well since I could probably punish the roll with a dash attack. Volatile Breathing is hard to deal with because I usually use it in the air while my opponent is still on the ground and far away from me. I would just stay away from WFT when she's about to do it in the air since you can't really punish after the explosion, but that gives her more breathing room to toss out projectiles. I actually don't know how the armor works on it. It's weird.
Maybe I'll see their weaknesses eventually if I play more people. Characters with a reflector definitely mitigates my usage of Sweeping Sun Salutation.
Oh yeah, I hate that F-smash can miss like that lol. Hmm, maybe I'll chase with up-air more often after I launch the opponent.
If it works and you're having fun doing the same move then keep doing it, but if the opponent starts learning then switch it up.
MrSaturn99
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Perfection
ROFL that's the one I kept getting in the afternoon
Steve Youngblood
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Well, I don't know what you're doing now to unlock characters. But beat Classic mode? If you've done that, then you might just need to play a match of Smash mode and after the match you'll get the challenge. And by that, I just mean that if you've already triggered the condition for their "Challenger Approaches" scenario, then they'll appear after every Smash match that you play. Even just jumping off the platform in a one-stock against the CPU will trigger the fight.
You know me too well.
after learning that I needed to beat Classic with Marth, it was seriously the first thing I did when I got the game :3c
If it works, do it. That being said, back slash is unsafe as hell so if you're playing good players they'll either block/roll on reaction and punish, or it's jusy laggy, lol.
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