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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT2| Nintendo All-Stars Battle Quarter Pounder
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SenorArdilla
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Haha. They kept Inuji Darumeshi instead of changing it into Rusty.
Spinosaurus
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That happened to me on Wario's stage in For Glory. It zoomed out and stayed out. I was hella confused. I was sure something was wrong.
Yea, if you can't get me off stage, you will have a serious problem...
SweetDonuts
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I love that stage ever since Melee. I don't know why people hate it (acting dumb)
TheSlySoul
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I agree with you, I felt like they should have turned it into Mt. Lavalava if they wanted a menacing stage. It would also fit the boat theme since Mt. Lavalava is on an island.
Spinosaurus
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Yeah, the 3DS's stages are definitely a low point for the series. I hope their designs aren't indicative of what we'll see on Wii U. Thankfully, what has been revealed so far of the console version has been encouraging. With any luck, the 3DS's chaotic overload of zany stage gimmicks is a deliberate decision made to mesh with portable design methodology and the Wii U version will provide contrast.
balladofwindfishes
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Actually both versions of Rusty are in the game as trophies
Or even, I dunno, Bowser's floating castle from the original game! That would be a best case scenario.
Baron von Loathsome
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I think there's a Rusty trophy as well.
TheSlySoul
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I meant because there are three games in the franchise and has 3 character slots. Metroid has at least 8 and only has 1 character. Fire Emblem is triple digits, so 4 is pretty respectable. I would have rather had Dark Samus be added to the roster.
Maybe if Kid Icarus Uprising had a sequel, I could feel fine with 3 characters in the roster.
Anyone else new to the series and really struggling online?
I mainly play 1v1 Glory because I think it is the most fun and competitive. I've been doing slightly better lately although my record is like 8-52. This is my first Smash game and I am getting beat pretty consistently.
I'm having a good time and I'm going to keep playing but consistently losing over and over again is a bit discouraging at times.
I mainly play 1v1 Glory because I think it is the most fun and competitive. I've been doing slightly better lately although my record is like 8-52. This is my first Smash game and I am getting beat pretty consistently.
I'm having a good time and I'm going to keep playing but consistently losing over and over again is a bit discouraging at times.
I just did that challenge this morning, with Kirby, thanks to a tip I read on this thread (I was asking for help on the 110 KO's in 3-minute smash)
basically, play normal with Kirby, and when things are heating up, fly above one of the side platforms, and perform a Down-B... the enemies will be down trying to get you, and you'll kill them all in a swipe. If one of them survives, just do an air side-A after transforming back to Kirby. Just be careful and keep moving so nobody KO's you.
managed to get 250 KO's that way =)
*brags*
SweetDonuts
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Um, I wasn't expecting you to be that good.
chaosblade
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Even the AI hates Mushroomy Kingdom. On 9 intensity in a team match both opponents just SD'd off the side.
I was surprised how much I like Golden Plains. The coin collection gimmick is something extra to do that rewards you but isn't overpowered. The scrolling back and forth also offers good layout variety.
So yeah, Golden Plains is a very fun stage. And it's nice hearing the NSMB melodies remixed with good instrumentation.
So yeah, Golden Plains is a very fun stage. And it's nice hearing the NSMB melodies remixed with good instrumentation.
As much as I love Metroid, isn't it sort of fitting of the franchise's lonely nature for Smash to only feature Samus? There's no other worthwhile character in the series who would even fit on a Battlefield platform. Metroid will hopefully never be a series about an ensemble cast, so why try to force tertiary Other M faces into the roster? Seems desperate.
TheSlySoul
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I am happy they did not include the BAHs from the original.
I would throw my 3DS if they included that stuff in the Smash version.
Also, Mushroomy Kingdom was an odd choice to port over. I much rather had Mario Bros. or Peach's Castle.
The track and the castle are actually both from Sticker Star:
...which I played from beginning to end. The wonders of the human psyche!
At least they didn't force us to suffer through 1-2 this time.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
Use wario + side b. Got over 300 kills this way.
MrSaturn99
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Like you said, it all boils down to taste. Personally, I love scrolling stages for the exact reason people hate 'em: I love keeping up with the stage while fighting off opponents, and they often throw enough fun gimmicks (such as Mushroomy Kingdom's ? Blocks) to keep entertained (only only I remember being bored with was maybe Icicle Mountain). I also love the bosses (Yellow Devil/Flying Man); in all honesty, I don't find them that intrusive and I find their new flavor refreshing.
Then you have stuff like the Paper Mario which is...alright, but the unorthodox Sticker Star segments keep throwing me off. Find And despite what I said about scrolling stages/bosses, I can't say I'm having that much fun with Golden Plains (I just don't find the coin gimmick all that interesting) and Find Mii (love how you can interact with the king's cage, but the Dark Emperor is sort of a drag) Some work and some don't, I guess.
Also, while it can't be pegged to a specific dungeon, you're forgetting the Zelda II Temple!
I agree there should be a better balance, though. Maybe my eventual intern review on the game will touch upon this? We'll see!
I definitely agree, although I will gladly welcome Ridley if they 1) don't use the Other M version, and 2) find a way to make him feel natural and unique.
But yeah, Ridley is really the only other character that makes sense as a Metroid rep. The next closest thing is Dark Samus, but that character seemed like a one-and-done deal with the Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Man I dont get how you guys force the milestones
the idea of still having something to do or get is another thing that keeps me coming back to the games after a long time
why would I get everything done in days by just repeatedly falling so I dont have anything else to get or look forward to
the idea of still having something to do or get is another thing that keeps me coming back to the games after a long time
why would I get everything done in days by just repeatedly falling so I dont have anything else to get or look forward to
I think Mushroomy Kingdom was included as a parallel to 3D Land. Both scroll through the Mushroom Kingdom (well, at least part of each stage). So you have your modern Mario stage and your bizarre post-apocalyptic Mario stage (sorry Sakurai, doesn't come off as poetic commentary on nostalgic childhood memories -- just creepy!).
chaosblade
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I've played like 12 hours and only unlocked 5 or 6 characters :lol
Most of my time playing has just been on classic mode getting custom moves to transfer over to the Wii U game.
MrSaturn99
Member
How strange, the former's how it came off to me.
Different tastes/perceptions are funny, funny things, aren't they?
As a celebration of Nintendo, there should be no references to Other M at all.
if you're talking about the challenges... I'm just addicted to unlock stuff :/
and in this particular case, I'll still be playing a lot of Smash after unlocking everything.
MrSaturn99
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dark samus will never be playable............
Eldritch Horror Metroid Prime slithers into battle!
Yeah, Metroid is more about sights and sounds than a wacky cast of superheroes. I'd have been cool with Dark Samus if it played like the assist trophy but I'd rather have another character with a distinct appearance and aside from the Ridley pipe dream... I don't see it.
I built Guar Plains in Brawl in 2008.
Gonzo The Great
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Some options for For Glory Smash would have been nice. Forced timed battles make it virtually unplayable. Half of the people just camp and run away, while the others just blindly spam their attacks and hope somebody gets hit. I'd be surprised if anybody has a win ratio of over 30%.
Spinosaurus
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Last one SweetDonuts. I have to go after this.
Dark Samus is the face of the most successful Metroid games ever made and a western-made character in a roster lacking in them. She's not really that inconceivable in terms of the next Metroid newcomer.
Too late for that.
That's pretty impressive when you consider the date Xenoblade came out.
Vampirolol
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Some stages are brilliant, others are meh but the absence of a stage hazard toggle is the real deal not because I dislike some luaghs but because it would add more variety. I hope that the Wii U version fixes this.
shadowstar
Member
I got all of the characters by falling so I could hurry up and play online/with friends which is the only thing I care about doing and is what will keep me playing far longer than anything else in the game.
lol, oh you
The face of the most successful Metroid games ever made is already playable in Smash. I'm not sure Dark Samus is quite so visible from a brand perspective.
I do agree that she's conceivable as a character, though.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
uhm
Just imagine Dark Samus having a final smash where it reverts into the original Metroid Prime form just briefly, and all the armor and everything forms around it giving you
Nocturnowl
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Scrolling Stages can lend themselves to good fights, it's all in the execution though, for instance I've found Poke Floats and Rainbow Cruise to be good examples of the concept, they move at just the right pace, tend to have a good amount of land mass throughout and can lead to interesting fighting situations you wont see elsewhere. Unfortunately the execution of scrolling stages does tend to be lacking, 3D Land on paper almost hits the point of being just right yet it scrolls just a bit too fast making any fighting stilted and awkward, watch high level CPU opponents fumble around as they spend more time fighting the stage than you. And when forced scrolling stages miss they miss hard like the hodgepodge that is Brawl's Rumble Falls.
Expanding on a point there related to CPU confusion there's also an issue noticeable in Brawl and 3DS in particular where certain stage layouts cause the CPU players to oddly amble around the many platforms in play, I think this tends to happen when there's too many small platforms in close proximity to each other, in Brawl I'd cite Distant Planet and Electroplankton as notable examples of this, 3DS can continue this trend in the second half of the Kid Icarus Reset Bomb stage and especially Pac Maze (or maybe they're just going for pellets). I'm thinking that if your stage layouts are causing the CPU opponents to forgo fighting in favour of springing around the stage then it's not a good sign, of course some of these stages cause cumbersome fighting even among human players, these aren't cases of interfering gimmicks, they're just messy and unappealing.
Oh but interfering gimmicks is definitely a thing here as we all know, all fingers point to the Magicant stage being effectively ruined by the flying man, you know the examples like Yellow Devil and such that I need not repeat what others have said. Bafflingly they even went and made Jungle Japes worse by greatly ramping up the water flow, dip a toe in that drink and say goodbye unless you have a strong horizontal recovery and even then that's if you're lucky, I don't think I've even seen a Klaptrap pull anyone in yet, they too are now victims of the rivers flow probably popping out begging for help.
Going off on a tangent here so to pull things back to the original point you mentioned, yes the stage design in this entry in particular should've come under more scrutiny from reviewers and that's without taking into account the lacklustre balances of series representation.
And I'm saying all this as a guy who likes Brawl's Spear Pillar and Pictochat, there are times when the gimmicks can work even when it gets crazy but the series is really getting more misses than hits with the zaniness these days and I'm thinking that platform layout may be one of the main culprits.
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