Same here. Also wish Bowser Jr. had some alt colors, since it's also weird that little mac's wireframe has a full set, his own costume, and a bunch of normal colors. Hell, other people like wario, robin, wii fit, etc. get cut in half by the swaps too.
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Same here. Also wish Bowser Jr. had some alt colors, since it's also weird that little mac's wireframe has a full set, his own costume, and a bunch of normal colors. Hell, other people like wario, robin, wii fit, etc. get cut in half by the swaps too.
Benzychenz
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Oh yeah that too. Wireframe Mac only needed to be the one costume, but if they can make an exception for that and give it 8, they can give Bowser Jr, Wario etc 16 costumes too.
But why was Dark Pit the one given changes to his moveset when Alph remained a costume, even with his unique model? Though maybe the separate voiceset, and ease of replacing weapon models for visual differentiation helped. In any case, I hope Lucina, Dr. Mario and Dark Pit are rolled back into their parent characters in the next game, with their statistical differences replicable through custom moves and equipment.
OricWindstar
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Haha, well I suck with Rosalina, but I can tell she's a great counter pick for Mac. I'm going to try and work her out.
EDIT: Or not! Let me try and actually give you a challenge...
EDIT: Or not! Let me try and actually give you a challenge...
Try not to let me get close lol...
Heh it does suck... The best is when you get a stage that has a theme you really like, and somehow you overcome the skill difference...but only for that short moment lol.
OricWindstar
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I hate your Little Mac...haha, in a good way! This is good practice.
Palutena could probably have been implemented better, sure. That said, I actually liked the whole thematic principle behind most of Palutena's attack animations, and I think making all of her attacks super-flashy would have gotten in the way of it. Say what you want about her playstyle, but I noticed a pretty clear and unified vision in how Palutena attacks and moves in the game - most of her tilts, all twirly as they are, sorta feel like she's not throwing them out very seriously; kind of a casual godly backhand since she doesn't have to expend the effort to fight you seriously. When she unleashes a portent of her divine abilities (and when shit gets real, see: her Smash attacks) the sigil appears behind her and a suitably impressive looking attack comes out because she's done playing around. Having every attack look like this vortex of divine punishment sort of takes away from the 'oh shit just got real' factor of her grander smash attacks.
...of course, I wouldn't mind not having to deal with all the normals involving twirling her staff if it meant less laggy attacks. :lol
I feel like the VA thing is straight up a little less important for me. Not that I don't adore KIU's voice acting (and count myself as a general enthusiast in that realm), but Palutena in the game is really only calling out her powers with an occasional unique victory quote against Kid Icarus characters. Since there's nothing substantial, like a codec or something that would make me feel bad about Hillis not voicing Palutena or anything, there's really nothing that I have against the voice performance. I suppose that's part of your general issue, but I can live with it more or less. In any case, I think I found Brandy Kopp to do a decent enough job filling in, even if Ali Hillis would have been ideal.
Unrelatedly relatedly, I'm having way too much fun with the Palutena vs Little Mac match-up with her custom moves set up. I baited my friend's Mac into trying to counter me on the Jump Glide approach (since he was assuming I'd throw out a bair) and just crossed him up and threw him off-stage and into a charged Up-Smash when he tried coming back. :lol
Fsmash is pretty situational in general. I use it to punish landing lag on aerials/endlag on Smash attacks (especially near the edge) or whiffed Counters and the like, since it's pretty easy to react to in most other situations. I wouldn't fuss too much about the spacing, otherwise. Kind of those things you eventually get a decent enough feel over.
...jeez, I've played so much Palutena today that I'm convinced that my Robin play has fallen apart again. Gonna be sticking my Levin Sword out expecting a beam of light to appear. I still can't believe that I was better at Robin late into day one than I am now. :lol
nephilimdj
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Is this a NA thing? I barely see any Japanese/aussies use mac in for glory
Cosmic Dreams
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Just had a loooong series of matches against a Rosalina player using random fighters. Pretty fun on my end, hope it was the same for my opponent since they stuck around even when they won like 90% of the time. Wario and Olimar seemed to do best for me (judging by one match for almost all the characters, anyway.)
OricWindstar
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Thanks! A few more losses and I may have started going crazy.
OricWindstar
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And with that, I'll call it a night; I keep falling for such obvious baiting. Great games, though! I promise to put up more of a fight next time.
GG. Some of my SDs are godsend haha...
Incitemaybe
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I've been wondering if there was any difference at all between Pit and Dark Pit. An entire character slot for a clone?
Man, the slide pad is awful for this game. You're lucky that this game is insanely fun Nintendo!
Yeah, Doc and Black Costume Pit are the weakest part of the roster for me. I liked Doc's Melee moveset returning, but I'm just way to spoiled by the way Brawl and this game redid the characters that used to be clones and made them feel fresh. It just feels like a half assed way to increase roster size. They would've been great alts.
It is kind of weird how Lucina being a better Roy, meant Marth had to get severely nerfed. His counter might be the best in the game though, or at least tied with Shulk's (when it lands).
Yeah, Doc and Black Costume Pit are the weakest part of the roster for me. I liked Doc's Melee moveset returning, but I'm just way to spoiled by the way Brawl and this game redid the characters that used to be clones and made them feel fresh. It just feels like a half assed way to increase roster size. They would've been great alts.
It is kind of weird how Lucina being a better Roy, meant Marth had to get severely nerfed. His counter might be the best in the game though, or at least tied with Shulk's (when it lands).
Professor Beef
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No, just play a regular Smash match, and he'll show up afterwards.
He does seem to be more popular here in the West compared to Japan.
Also after like 5 matches of getting bodied by the same Little Mac, I finally figured out a good counter: Ganondorf.
It was so good, I had to record the replay with my blurry phone camera
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I love the game, but fucking hell Palutena sucks ass. Slow as shit, no range, retarded attacks and no defense.
Urgh.
Urgh.
Donno, but for what it's worth, he was one of my most seen characters in For Glory while the game was only out in Japan, too.
I was battling a guy with Little Mac and winning but then got destroyed by Ganondorf. That may have been me.He does seem to be more popular here in the West compared to Japan.
Also after like 5 matches of getting bodied by the same Little Mac, I finally figured out a good counter: Ganondorf.
It was so good, I had to record the replay with my blurry phone camera
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Sigismundo
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Japan called him a gorilla (amongst other things) so I kinda doubt that Mac will ever see use there. Not sure about Australia, I'm gonna use the shit out of him.
I've actually done pretty well with her in this game. She's kinda tanky, so you have to zone a bit with her and then nail one of her smashes to get kills.
Idk, maybe I just like her...
Is this really the case for Japan? I always assumed the Ike and Mac being gorillas comments being like the Shulk, Robin, Palutena, and Lucina "being too anime" comments we see in America-stuff a small minority says but doesn't honestly give a shit about.
First to be registered KO is the one that loses.
Is your name Chris? He used pink hoodie Mac.
Xane
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The real question then is: What made him decide to change Dark Pit's moveset instead of just making him a costume? The changes are so marginal he could as well been a costume instead.
Nope. Same thing had happened to me though.
Sigismundo
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Admittedly aside from random 2ch comments I don't know. You're probably right.
Speedy Blue Dude
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After realizing no one in For The Glory 1v1 is willingly to fuck around and have a good time, and everyone is a try hard, I've developed a pocket Lucania.
My Win rate shot from my 10% screwing around to 60%. I still try and have some fun though, and if I get 2 consecutive wins And the dude doesn't quit, I change character for some variety. Usually my rotation is Sonic > Pikachu > Kirby > Charizard. Usually people quit before Kirby.
I did have one amazing game where I picked Kirby and the dude picked Jigglypuff, and this was our 5th match (I won 2, him 2), and when we saw our choices we spent all 5 minutes fooling around and bouncing around each other and taunting instead of fighting.
5 minutes of pure fun, this is what I wish Smash was all the time.
Nintendo needs to add a recreational casual 1v1 mode with Items and proper stages (not Final Destination only)
My Win rate shot from my 10% screwing around to 60%. I still try and have some fun though, and if I get 2 consecutive wins And the dude doesn't quit, I change character for some variety. Usually my rotation is Sonic > Pikachu > Kirby > Charizard. Usually people quit before Kirby.
I did have one amazing game where I picked Kirby and the dude picked Jigglypuff, and this was our 5th match (I won 2, him 2), and when we saw our choices we spent all 5 minutes fooling around and bouncing around each other and taunting instead of fighting.
5 minutes of pure fun, this is what I wish Smash was all the time.
Nintendo needs to add a recreational casual 1v1 mode with Items and proper stages (not Final Destination only)
Hours Left
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It's just cherry picking from internet whiners. You can find people talking smack about everyone everywhere if you look hard enough. (Also the "gorilla" comments aren't even really supposed to be an insults generally, it's just a slang term for someone muscular.)
I don't think there's any conspiracy against any character...
Except Ridley. XD
Ah ok. Interesting, I was kinda like "fuck it, Imma bring out the dorf and see what happens" and that...happened.
He's like the dark horse of this game. So good yet bad at the same time lol.
Cosmic Dreams
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fought the replica yoshi on the master core fight.
dude fucking sucks me into an egg off stage. i give up.
dude fucking sucks me into an egg off stage. i give up.
All these Little Macs in For Glory are getting on my fucking nerves. It's really ridiculous how one character can make you change your playstyle that you've developed. But the real thing is how he's being overused in so many matches. Usually after I destroy someone, they switch to Little Mac to counter me, and I just beat them again... but I still had to camp more often than not.
Anyway, rant over. Carry on.
Anyway, rant over. Carry on.
Swap out her specials for Superspeed and Jump Glide. Accept that her jabs and tilts suck and you should rarely willingly use them and approach with off the ground Jump Glide for a fast-moving grounded aerial approach. Trick people by switching between fairs, bairs, and grabs if they try to block or counter. Embrace Autoreticle and keep your opponent on the back foot as much as you can. Neutral game is the most advantageous position for Palutena, so keep your opponent there and frustrated. Exploit the hell out of her pivot grabs and get people off stage as much as you can and nail people off the ledge with her absurdly good Up Smash. Chase people off stage with Superspeed since Jump Glide makes returning from a mile away from the stage a cinch. Never stay close to your opponent for more than a few seconds.
find a different character in case of greninja or sheik
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