hmm... 400? that's quite a price. but I'm willing to pay that for a well made wheel that I can use for some time.
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hmm... 400? that's quite a price. but I'm willing to pay that for a well made wheel that I can use for some time.
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oh, and thanks for the recommendation!
SolidSnakex
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Right now it's the only high end wheel confirmed for the PS4. DRIVECLUB is confirmed to support it. GT7 certainly will when it comes out since that's actually the official high end wheel for GT5/6. And i'm sure Project Cars wheel as well. So, it's a safe wheel to go with in terms of quality and future support.
What a vile thing to say. People have to pay bills and feed their family you ignoramus. Ignored you now are.
http://i.imgur.com/FHLgmd2.jpg
Just so you can see what was stripped from Forza to get it to the X1. Forza on X1 in the state it is now cannot touch DC. You can act as offended as you like it just is. Now I'm glad you love the way DC looks. Lets thank the devs for this spectacular show piece and thank God we have a console that can actually push visuals like this. I do wish it was 60fps also but it is what it is right? Ok good let's move on.
Brothers from another... thread. Rushy's even said that he liked PGR, and the fact that even the guy who directed/edited all the prerendered videos (like intros and such) does work for Evo means that it's basically a sequel in everything but name. Right down to them focusing on a single musical track as the games "theme" (read: Shadow by The Prodigy).
Can you verify that info on the person concentrating on the driving model? I believe that Ged Talbot works for Evo, but last time I checked there wasn't any info on his employment there on the 'net (particularly LinkedIn) nor any gaming news sites since the closure of Bizarre (give or take a few months).
With any luck, your position of being an insider of sorts can confirm that for me
Agreed on those tracks, I also loved Quebec for it's hilly city roads. NYC had a couple of good layouts, particularly for the long bridge sprint (ungh), fantastic photo ops and occasional Easter Eggs (I remember seeing a billboard only recently of one of the artists as a fashion model... lols).
tl;dr: Macau and Quebec would need to come in from PGR4. I could take or leave Tokyo. I loved the Russian track in PGR2 as well, but the exact location escapes me :/
Fake edit: Fuck it, Sydney as well.
viveks86
Member
Brothers from another... thread. Rushy's even said that he liked PGR, and the fact that even the guy who directed/edited all the prerendered videos (like intros and such) does work for Evo means that it's basically a sequel in everything but name. Right down to them focusing on a single musical track as the games "theme" (read: Shadow by The Prodigy).
Can you verify that info on the person concentrating on the driving model? I believe that Ged Talbot works for Evo, but last time I checked there wasn't any info on his employment there on the 'net (particularly LinkedIn) nor any gaming news sites since the closure of Bizarre (give or take a few months).
With any luck, your position of being an insider of sorts can confirm that for me
From what I've heard, a lot of people from Bizarre's PGR and Blur team moved to Evo and are still there. Not sure about Ged Talbot, specifically, but the team does have a lot of PGR DNA.
And yet 30fps was fine in blur, split/second, dirt, grid, shift, horizon, motorstorm, NFS, colin mcrae, richard burns, rallisport challenge, PGR, midnight club....
There are more/better racers that are 30fps then there are those that are 60.
Fnord
Member
Including the cockpits of the cars in front of them (ie., when a car is behind you with its headlamps on, the headlamps light your cockpit. Very nice.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
There's always going to one who's too sensitive.
Fried Food
Banned
these graphics with gran turismo everything else. So thirst.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Yeah, they weren't great. Those were just the first tracks that came to mind as I was playing them in PGR4 last night. (which is still an amazing game. So good knocking out a few races. Everything about it just so perfectly balanced)
Yup, this is why I'm so excited for DC. I didn't even care about the delay, I'm just glad we're getting what is essentially a spiritual successor to the magnificent PGR.
sacrificengineer
Member
Looks stunning.
CouchMaster
Member
The stick shift is extra 100, just fyi.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I don't think anything is missing. The game seems to be creating reflections cube maps on the fly (probably using contents of the previous frame. From what I can tell, even cars reflect each other when they're next one to another, which I've never seen in a game before.
There are definitely more racers at 30fps, but better? That's something I definitely disagree with. I love MotorStorm, PGR and Horizon... but over Daytona USA, Sega Rally (arcade), Wipeout HD, F-Zero GX, Outrun 2, Ridge Racer V, Sonic Transformed (PC is the only version that counts)?... Nah...
I doubt it would look like this if it was
I doubt it would look like this if it was
I'd take diminished otherall visual effects for 60fps, but yes, on PS4, it probably wouldn't make it at 60fps with these visuals.
You use those games to counter his list? That is one hell of a try. You should have not have even responded.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Has Evolution come out and said they're still targeting 60fps??
Would an unlocked frame rate be a good option for some of you?(They could always leave it vsynced to 30 as an option.)
Would an unlocked frame rate be a good option for some of you?(They could always leave it vsynced to 30 as an option.)
Nope they confirmed its 1080p at 30FPS.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Ok.
I'm a big 60fps guy but to me complaining about a game being 30fps on a console is futile because, it isn't like there's a 60fps version of the game out there.
What can I say... I prefer actual arcade racers to arcade/sim hybrids generally. I'm not claiming that one set of games is objectively better than the other.. but if I had to choose one group of games to never have existed... it wouldn't be the 60fps set.
TwistedSyn
Member
Oh man eurobeat. I totally forgot about that genre of music after I stopped watching Initial D. Running in the 90's, Speedy Speed Boy and Dog Fight were my favorites. Now I feel like watching that series again.
On topic now. Driveclub is looking pretty good. Will definitely be picking it up in October.
There are some 'ordinary' cars too, e.g. Golf GTI.
You racist against D&B Bru?
Presumably by Eurobeat you're talking about hard techno?
kriskrosbbk
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On the Maserati video I can't see the dashboard reflecting on the side window.Sad if they removed that effect.It was a nice touch.
velociraptor
Junior Member
What is eurobeat?
Every racing game, no matter how bad they are, can become epic moment with initial D ost.
Just blast 'heartbeat' and start your engine.
yurinka
Member
A music subgenre
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yep we need custom soundtrack by then i need my initial d music even more since this is a arcade type game.
You racist against D&B Bru?
Presumably by Eurobeat you're talking about hard techno?
Nah Eurobeat is something different the music is much faster .
djplaeskool
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Ricerocket
Member
Oh man I love all of the initial D songs. When I played in the arcades, Killing My Love was my favorite pick.
kriskrosbbk
Member
Ok ,I respect this,however I trust my eyes more.
Wauw, I haven't seen Nib around here for ages - He got banned or something?
How "diminished"? Forza 5 "diminished"? Still such a ridiculous thing to say at this point of the discussion.
During the 360's lifecycle, no racing game at 60fps came close to looking as good as PGR4 did at 30. You can guarantee whatever faking would need to be done to get DC at 60 (fake reflections, baked shadows, 2D crowds), it'd not only be torn apart by anally-retentive GAFfers (with me being one of them, I guess), it'd also be distracting with things that doesn't look quite right when the rest of the game looks solid... just like what was needed to get FM4 running at 60 (baked shadows, low-refresh mirrors/reflections, aliasing and what have you).
I'm far more relieved that Evo chose to make their game with minimal graphical compromises compared to what would've been needed to get it running at 60. I'll take a "Looks amazing but it's only 30fps" in a review over "Looks great at 60fps, but..." for a simcade racer, because it means the dev has had to compromise something to get it there.
Yeah he is banned.
SniperHunter
Banned
the Indian track looks really awesome, it also looks somewhat authentic. They nailed the tree types and the road details
NullPointer
Member
I can't imagine sacrificing any of that lighting though. Your cars headlights casting shadows of the cars ahead of you just looks amazing.
Glad to see the dash reflection is still in. Its probably my favorite individual effect in Forza 5 for giving me a real sense of place in the driver's seat. A subtle but powerful touch.
Looking at some old vids,the menus look really nice to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRiLQ4AeanA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRiLQ4AeanA
Shift 2 had a pretty good stab at this effect, and it was a real 'wow' moment the first time my cockpit was lit up by the headlights of a chasing car behind me.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I trust the developer more than your eyes.
In order for there to even be any glare, wouldn't there have to be some direct sunlight?
edit: my bad, thought you guys were talking reflections on the windscreen :x
I'm the exact opposite with games that hit 60 fps. It's the real technical achievement to hit a solid 60 and still look nice. I don't care the tricks they are doing to get there. If it looks nice to my eyes then I think it's cool.
Plus I'm seeing awful jaggies in drive club. Which I think after what you've put it makes it look even worse. The game should be perfect iq if at 30
flipswitch
Member
The earlier builds had pretty bad AA I remember, but then they improved their AA method and it looks much better. I wouldn't say the current build has awful jaggies.