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[Betta Lines]

So we're stuck with garbage quality vids.....

Talk about shitting on a steak dinner.

Indeed. It's verging on pointless to release stuff like this. Particularly for gameplay footage. Fair enough, chuck the motion graphics stuff and cinematic trailers on YouTube, but if you want people to see how the game actually looks in realtime, you HAVE to offer very high quality encodes.

I mean... if the game actually looked like these videos on your TV, you'd think your TV was broken.

 

[Korezo]

Rushy confirmed windows still crack, etc



It's more like PGR and Ridge Racer than sims or outlandish arcade games.

Lol ridge racer, in that game you never hit the brakes and drift + nos through out the entire track.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

It's not open world like Forza Horizon.
It doesn't have crazy tracks and OTT events like Split/Second.
It doesn't have crazy tracks and off road stunts like Motorstorm.

And it doesn't have power ups like Mario Kart, seriously what's the point!

 

[coldfoot]

It's more like PGR and Ridge Racer than sims or outlandish arcade games.

There is a good reason those games aren't being made any more, and the last studio that did a similar game (Blur) went bankrupt. Only "Need for Speed" survives, and that's due to the name, just like COD, and being part of EA, plus they've gone open world as well.

 

[Kenshin001]

Needs more epic arcadey drifting, racing seemed a bit dull. Honestly though, neither of those two videos was particularly interesting or exciting, I think Sony/Evo is doing a dreadfully poor job at selling this game.

I think so too. Looks as good as a new gen game should but the actual racing and track looked kind of mundane. I'm wondering why they chose those tracks because they don't look that thrilling to race. Wish they'd included something iconic or breathtaking.

 

[cyber_ninja]

Looks amazing even on youtube vids, cannot wait to get my hands on this beast.

 

[baconcow]

Will have to pick up on PC to enjoy 60 fps. And since PC, will wait until $5.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

http://a.pomf.se/rxlyng.webm
http://a.pomf.se/ngdnzj.webm
http://a.pomf.se/pdxdel.webm
http://a.pomf.se/wpnglx.webm
http://a.pomf.se/tefkks.webm
http://a.pomf.se/mywvfk.webm
http://a.pomf.se/rxmves.webm
http://a.pomf.se/terakp.webm
http://a.pomf.se/uvkuuk.webm

Sweet Jesus...

 

[reptilescorpio]

Real-time/non-baked reflections are out? Can't see the car or sparks reflected in the .gif. There was also a part in the video with some flying birds that were absent in the reflection.

Hard to tell in that GIF but on the Zonda dash segment it definitely reflected cars

 

[GlamFM]

And it doesn't have power ups like Mario Kart, seriously what's the point!

Also no loot, no character progression.

 

[djplaeskool]

Real-time/non-baked reflections are out? Can't see the car or sparks reflected in the .gif. There was also a part in the video with some flying birds that were absent in the reflection.

It's real-time.
The car and sparks weren't close enough to be reflected at the point of impact.
You can see the car entering the field of reflection right at the end when as they entered the bridge.

 

[KalBalboa]

Day one, as always.

 

[Insane Metal]

Real-time/non-baked reflections are out? Can't see the car or sparks reflected in the .gif. There was also a part in the video with some flying birds that were absent in the reflection.

Scratch that, I think I see the car now.

THe car appears in the reflection. Just the edge of it, look carefully.

 

[WoolyNinja]

This is the crappiest quality video I've seen in a while on YouTube. You can see the compression artifacts EVERYWHERE! Every once in a while there's like a second or two without terrible compression where you can actually see how great the game looks, otherwise if you're trying to see what this game will really look like you should probably wait for better videos.

 

[Tsundere]

Real-time/non-baked reflections are out? Can't see the car or sparks reflected in the .gif. There was also a part in the video with some flying birds that were absent in the reflection.

Scratch that, I think I see the car now.

The car is properly reflected on the hood to the right, and with the proper lighting no less. The less light on an object the less it will be reflected.

 

[prwxv3]

I see the EVO cycle has started again.

 

[red731]

Thanks Miles!

I see the EVO cycle has started again.

Haha. Too true.

 

[Dinjooh]

wweeebbmms

Sweet Jesus...

I reckon you managed to scratch your webm itch?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

http://a.pomf.se/rxlyng.webm
http://a.pomf.se/ngdnzj.webm
http://a.pomf.se/pdxdel.webm
http://a.pomf.se/wpnglx.webm
http://a.pomf.se/tefkks.webm
http://a.pomf.se/mywvfk.webm
http://a.pomf.se/rxmves.webm
http://a.pomf.se/terakp.webm
http://a.pomf.se/uvkuuk.webm

Sweet Jesus...

Dat last webm

sogood.gif

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Microsoft employee I spar with on Efnet frequently RE: the new footage:

<MS Employee> i dont think it looks that good
<MS Employee> has to be a bad video
<MS Employee> to me forza looks much better
<Krakn3dfx> shocker
* Krakn3dfx sits down
<Krakn3dfx> have to take in this revelation

 

[madmackem]

Real-time/non-baked reflections are out? Can't see the car or sparks reflected in the .gif. There was also a part in the video with some flying birds that were absent in the reflection.

Scratch that, I think I see the car now.

They seem too far away to be reflected on the hood?.

 

[Elixist]

man i was kinda hoping to come around on liking this, but im out. still looks pretty and boring, kinda like infamous for me except i wouldve bought infamous if i had a ps4 just for the graphics.

 

[Freeman]

I bet it's the lights. You know, the reds and greens.

Could be. I guess that's how NFS2 looked to me when I was 9 years old.

 

[darkwing]

http://a.pomf.se/rxlyng.webm
http://a.pomf.se/ngdnzj.webm
http://a.pomf.se/pdxdel.webm
http://a.pomf.se/wpnglx.webm
http://a.pomf.se/tefkks.webm
http://a.pomf.se/mywvfk.webm
http://a.pomf.se/rxmves.webm
http://a.pomf.se/terakp.webm
http://a.pomf.se/uvkuuk.webm

Sweet Jesus...

can gamersyde save us?

 

[jmonteiro]

Is there a driving wheel that works with the PS4?

 

[Mikey Jr.]

If you took a screenshot of the game, and showed it to me, I would say it looks kinda ugly.

But there is something about the game when you see it in motion....

I can't put my finger on it. Something about it looks really fucking good.

 

[McFadge]

Yeah, my apologies people. Watched it a few times and couldn't see it, watched a few more and it's definitely there!

 

[Loudninja]

Dat last webm

sogood.gif

Yeah holy crap.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Sweet Jesus...

Yea, the AA needs to be addressed, the jaggies are incredibly obvious and eye catching.

 

[Bundy]

Looks incredibly boring, it has nothing over a sim racer in terms of over the topness, yet not a sim racer.

 

[Graphics Horse]

There's a lot going on in these videos.

The dynamic lighting, headlights reflecting in cars in front, and cars behind you reflecting on your rear bumper.

Reflections on the car from the surrounding environment and from other cars.

The real-time shadows.

Yeah that's pretty nice, I think they'll be using screen space ray marching like Killzone, Crysis 2 etc.

 

[Portugeezer]

We need HQ videos of this. YT compression is absolutely horrendous.

I am sure it's IGN. They have horrible video quality, even 1080p Youtube shouldn't look so compressed.

 

[cyberheater]

If you took a screenshot of the game, and showed it to me, I would say it looks kinda ugly.

But there is something about the game when you see it in motion....

I can't put my finger on it. Something about it looks really fucking good.

It's the lighting. Nothing is pre-baked. It's all generated at run time.

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

Those headlight shadows are great, subtle yet feel natural.
I notice a lot of aliasing on reflection hope they can fix that.

I think that's actually a wavy paint reflection effect that, if you look at car reflections up close, is actually quite realistic. Many cars have small subsurface irregularities all over that keep reflections from looking razor sharp. This looks more like that than it looks like low res reflections to me.

I love the headlight shadows. Each headlight seems to be treated as an individual shadow casting light source which is really cool. I believe pCars just does one light source for the whole front.

 

[Elixist]

Microsoft employee I spar with on Efnet frequently RE: the new footage:

im gonna go with a prediction that if the next Horizon comes out at the same time as this that it will shit all over this game in terms of fun factor.

 

[darkwing]

Yeah that's pretty nice, I think they'll be using screen space ray marching like Killzone, Crysis 2 etc.

dem reflections!

 

[Bucket-o-roadkill]

The more I see of this gen, the less impressive it appears. This doesn't really strike me as particularly great at all. I'm guessing it's native 1080 which is something I guess. I must confess that it doesn't seem all that better than last gen, especially considering it's not even running at 60fps. Maybe seeing it in real life and not on shitty youtube clips will change my mind.. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Fuck I miss the Dreamcast times, the visual jump back then was fucking mind blowing.

 

[shandy706]

Dat last webm

sogood.gif

"Clonk" Haha

Does look good....the ricochet off the wall made me chuckle.

 

[kaching]

There are so few words that could accurately describe the lighting in this game. None of which come in to my mind right now.

I tend to go with "sublime".

 

[mohsinkhan]

Looks great, does anyone know if they said their was going to be vehicle damage?

 

[kevcampbell]

Looks so good, why do this and project cars have to be releasing so close together, i want them both so bad, i need clean pants after watching those videos

 

[GribbleGrunger]

im gonna go with a prediction that if the next Horizon comes out at the same time as this that it will shit all over this game in terms of fun factor.

I've got a feeling that when Horizon comes out you'll say it shits all over this game in terms of the fun factor. Just a prediction.

 

[Blimblim]

I am sure it's IGN. They have horrible video quality, even 1080p Youtube shouldn't look so compressed.

Fast moving racing games are super hard to compress, it's not far from the worst possible type of footage to compress in fact. A (2500? 3000? whatever) bitrate for Ful HD simply isn't going to cut it.

 

[Betta Lines]

I think that's actually a wavy paint reflection effect that, if you look at car reflections up close, is actually quite realistic. Many cars have small subsurface irregularities all over that keep reflections from looking razor sharp. This looks more like that than it looks like low res reflections to me.

I think it's a combination of the two - a wavy paint effect to disguise the resolution of the reflection somewhat. In any case it's good enough. The aliasing on overhead cables and the like is far more distracting to me.

 

[DNAbro]

Thankfully they have the PS+ edition to see if I can get interested. Not a huge fan of realistic racers but I'm curious to see the quality of this.

 

[shandy706]

Fast moving racing games are super hard to compress, it's not far from the worst possible type of footage to compress in fact. A (2500? 3000? whatever) bitrate for Ful HD simply isn't going to cut it.

Needs to be 8000 minimum if we're uploading HD.....and that's still low.

 

[jett]

I think so too. Looks as good as a new gen game should but the actual racing and track looked kind of mundane. I'm wondering why they chose those tracks because they don't look that thrilling to race. Wish they'd included something iconic or breathtaking.

I think mundane is the right word to describe the game for now. The game could be awesome and actually driving could feel great, but for me that's not coming across in the footage they've released. Rushy is a cool dude and visually the game looks pretty, but these vids aren't doing it for me. The other two vids explaining the systems in the game are just terrible. Why use those low-rent flash animations instead of footage from the dynamic menu and actual racing challenges and whatnot? It's baffling.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

At least this thread will supply me with a list of people to never take seriously again ...

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I reckon you managed to scratch your webm itch?

I certainly did. Now I'm just waiting on some direct feed Bamersyde footage.

Dat last webm

sogood.gif

Yeah, it's pretty great to see the driver react to the collision too. The cockpit views are pretty fantastic as well.

And the lighting and reflections are just stunning. Really impressive what they've pulled off, 30fps was absolutely the right decision after these videos. They've nailed the feeling of speed when you're in cockpit/bonnet view and the motion is pretty top notch too.

can gamersyde save us?

We definitely need some direct feed footage.

 

[Melchiah]

It looks pretty good visually, but when it comes to gameplay it seems to be exactly the kind of racing I don't usually care about; constant brakes in the speed, instead of keeping the pedal to the medal the arcade way, and using your vehicle to push others from the way. It just seems boring to me. Also the flatness of the tracks is a downer.