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Youtube Demonetizes The Act Man's Entire Channel Over Petty Reasons

SenjutsuSage

Halo TV Series Promoter - Live from: Reach
This all started because somebody had a negative opinion about Elden Ring and somebody else just couldn't accept that. lmfao

That's actually not what happened. He had a bad Elden Ring take, his right. Other people found his take laughable and how bad he was at the game, all the whining etc made for good jokes. The whiny crybaby who couldn't stand that people were laughing at his review started abusing the YouTube copyright strike system in an effort to fraudulently take down people's youtube pages or get them banned, which is a threat to all creators if someone who can't take some criticism is seeking to abuse the rules while being completely ignorant of fair use.

That's what escalated this whole thing. Quantum targeted some 16 year old kid, threatened and basically scared him into pulling his own video for fear of losing his channel, and then a shit ton of major content creators, not liking the bullying, decided to stand up for that young kid. As Actman's videos were among the most damning and detailed of just how far Quantum had gone in his abuse of YouTube rules, Quantum started to directly target his family, tracking down his mother, brother, called the guy's mother and threatened her and started broadcasting to his supporters how easy it was to find them.

That's what transpired. It wasn't just a simple "we can't accept he doesn't like elden ring" type thing. It was people fairly laughing at his hilariously whiny response to Elden Ring and him deciding he would basically break the law (what he did was in fact illegal but YouTube is giving it a pass) to try to prevent as much mocking of him as possible.
 

sol_bad

Member
I like the Act Man but he should have thought this out a bit more. That Quantum guy sure sounds like a dickwad but why couldn't people just let him have his opinion? And yeah, he seems to be homophobic, so what, just let the other dickwads that like his content watch his content. Everyone has the ability to ignore what they don't like or disagree with.
 
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ShirAhava

Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
Big tech decides wrong all the time. Youtube is big enough it should be considered a public forum. Making videos isn't targeted harassment. Response videos are as old as the platform.

That sounds nice but it isn't how youtube works QTV understands this which is why he's winning he's not dealing with 'should bes' dictated by users but what the actual TOS is

Youtube has first and final say on what is targeted harassment on its platform.
 

SenjutsuSage

Halo TV Series Promoter - Live from: Reach
I like the Act Man but he should have thought this out a bit more. That Quantum guy sure sounds like a dickwad but why couldn't people just let him have his opinion? And yeah, he seems to be homophobic, so what, just let the other dickwads that like his content watch his content. Everyone has the ability to ignore what they don't like or disagree with.

This isn't about people not letting him have his opinion, it's about Quantum TV escalating it beyond discourse and fair use criticism and trying to get people's youtube pages banned because of their right to criticize his opinion. This is like Jason Schreier deciding to target for shutdown every single youtube page that ever criticizes one of his articles. The person obviously wrong is Quantum.

People disagree with me on here all the time. I don't go tracking down their real life relatives to destroy their lives.
 
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You're the first person I've seen go through the exact same as me. I had a small channel (around 20k subs) that, at my peak, would net me about 500 bucks a month. This was great since I only put a couple hours a week worth of effort into it.

I did this for about 10 years. Never changed up my formula (though obviously improved in many ways). Then all of a sudden: ''poof'' Partnership gone. All the money I had saved up got frozen. Reason? Same as yours. My content wasn't ''original'' and too ''repetitive'' and even hinted at it possibly being stolen from other channels (All of my footage is my own).

I reapplied for my partnership after making absolutely sure that there wasn't any content that would go against these rules. Like deleting two video's that showed a mere snippet of a game trailer. And one of my friends video's that I uploaded in order to give him some clout.

Got my partnership again. Fast forward three weeks and I lost it again. And then again. Same reason.

I contacted YouTube helpdesk and I simply asked them to tell me which video(s) in question were breaking these rules and they quite literally told me that they weren't allowed to. Like what the fuck? I have over 300 video's or whatever. How are you not allowed to tell me which video's are breaking these guidelines?

Two of my friends are nearing 100k subs right now, making upwards of 5K a month for making the same content as me. Shit even left them dumbfounded since they never even recieved a single complaint from Youtube's side.

Anyway I'm done venting. Reading through your experience helped me cope with it quite a bit since I couldn't find anyone else who had gone through the same. Thanks for sharing.
Just letting you know that my own YouTube situation is VERY similar to your's. It seems like this sort of "issue" has been increasing lately.

I have a hunch that YouTube is intentionally demonetizing channels simply to cut you out of the money they get from the ads on your videos, which they now put on your vids whether you are monetized or not.

By all logic, this should be a lawsuit in the making. The very fact that they ARE putting ads on your video is evidence that you don't actually have anything unmonetizable (If you ACTUALLY did, they'd just delete your channel), meaning there's grounds for libel and breach of contract AND a calculatable money estimate to win from them.
 
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Switch to Odysee my man, you won't look back!
Unfortunately, my personal experience with Odysee is that I struggle to get views even when investing the crypto back into my channel, and the analytics page is broken (always stuck on loading) so I can't even see what I might be doing wrong, and even before it was broken it was lousy and only told me about my most recent viewcounts (no backlog access!) with no actual detailed analytics.

On top of that, if you have more than a year's worth of YouTube content prepare to invest a lot of time manually reuploading it all.

Plus now they're gonna put ads on it, but there's no apparent ability for me to have videos monetized with ads (And y'know, getting actual cash, rather than dripfeed of a crypto worth less than a penny), so we'd effectively be dealing with what is in spirit the same problem being had with YouTube now.

I have similar issues with Rumble, but it has a better analytics page, plus people actually use their like/dislike system there so I got a generous amount of Rumbles in less than a week.
 

Stuart360

Member
Dont know the guy but i read that he was also doing vids criticizing Youtube, showing their hypocrocy, and highlighting instances of stuff they have done that he didnt agree with, etc. Now Google own that platfoirm, and thye are the ones that allow channels to be monitized. Can you imagine if you had anoffice job ,went into work, went to your boss and was like 'I hate this company, a dissagree with most of what it does, but i make my living here so will keep working. Just letting you know'. Would you be surprised if you were fired after that?.
 

Unknown?

Member
Unfortunately, my personal experience with Odysee is that I struggle to get views even when investing the crypto back into my channel, and the analytics page is broken (always stuck on loading) so I can't even see what I might be doing wrong, and even before it was broken it was lousy and only told me about my most recent viewcounts (no backlog access!) with no actual detailed analytics.

On top of that, if you have more than a year's worth of YouTube content prepare to invest a lot of time manually reuploading it all.

Plus now they're gonna put ads on it, but there's no apparent ability for me to have videos monetized with ads (And y'know, getting actual cash, rather than dripfeed of a crypto worth less than a penny), so we'd effectively be dealing with what is in spirit the same problem being had with YouTube now.

I have similar issues with Rumble, but it has a better analytics page, plus people actually use their like/dislike system there so I got a generous amount of Rumbles in less than a week.
Well that is unfortunate but Odysee, at least currently, has less fake accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if a huge amount of views and comments there are fake.

As far as analytics go, they are pointless. I usually don't use sites that uses analytics and those that do I block them.
 
Dont know the guy but i read that he was also doing vids criticizing Youtube, showing their hypocrocy, and highlighting instances of stuff they have done that he didnt agree with, etc. Now Google own that platfoirm, and thye are the ones that allow channels to be monitized. Can you imagine if you had anoffice job ,went into work, went to your boss and was like 'I hate this company, a dissagree with most of what it does, but i make my living here so will keep working. Just letting you know'. Would you be surprised if you were fired after that?.
So you're saying that YouTube is a job and we should have been given proper employment status, salaries and worker's rights while working under them?

Because YouTube sure gets a lot of financial benefit by denying this.
As far as analytics go, they are pointless. I usually don't use sites that uses analytics and those that do I block them.
I'm sure you're a swell guy and all but this is an outright nonsensical comment. You realize there's an actual count for the number of registered accounts on NeoGAF, right? That's analytics. Are you going to block every Geocities page that has a visitor counter? The only way for you to avoid this thing is to literally leave the entire internet.

EDIT: Also, the reason we're having this discussion in the first place is because you recommended Odysee, a site that has an analytics page for channel managers, of which I critiqued.
 
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V4skunk

Banned
The Act Man is a very popular gaming youtuber. Youtube decided to demonetize his entire channel after he complained about getting an unfair strike for one of his videos.


Charlie explains the whole situation pretty well in his video:


Essentially:
  1. Act Man gets a strike for "nudity and sexual content" for photoshopping a cucumber into somebody's mouth
  2. He never gets a chance to edit the video
  3. He then complains on Twitter about the whole situation because he has nobody to talk to at Youtube
  4. Youtube then decides to basically nuke his entire channel out of spite
The Act Man has recently produced some critical videos about Blizzard, Halo and various other companies. Dude is legit funny, produces some well thought-out content and we need independent content creators like him.
Once again Youtube shows how little it cares about its content creators. Your entire existence can be snuffed out in the blink of an eye.

Prelude:
People have been getting cancelled alot since at least 2016 for speaking the truth. This is a new low though because the channel is not political.
 
Everybody should care.
I have no idea about him, but Youtube is a fucking disgusting monopoly that can do whatever they want unchecked.
Those tubers should move to another platform en masse.
LOL there is no other platform like youtube good luck with that this will all die down and be over in a week
then onto the next outrage
 

triphero

Banned
Come on. Whether you like him or not hes obviously been on thin ice for a long time. Some of you guys are just as bad.

What do you expect when you make constant racist jokes and try to push boundaries. It doesn't bother me personally and you can be free speech warrior all you like, but we all know how Youtube operates. If you wanna fly too close to the sun you will get burned.
 
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triphero

Banned
This guy loves the word 'faggot' for to help prove his points.

Yup. Homophobic slurs. Makes jokes about Pakistanis and Eastern Europeans being paedophiles. Like whatever man. Whatever you think about free speech, Youtube clearly has its lines. You keep pushing those lines and then you suffer the consequences and then cry like a little b1tch about it.

TBH, he deserves it. Youtube has its rules, either abide by them or dont. But the hysteria in this thread, ffs. Some of you guys are ridiculous. Act Man is a clown. He can now get a job like everyone else.
 
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Hayabusa83

Member
Quantumtv is a religious fanatic nutjob that dosent know shit about technology or tv calibrations. Several other tech channels prove him wrong. Add that to the homophobic tirades he goes on and youtube defending him on pride month makes it funnier.

To all of you with the "boo hoo get a real job" rhetoric, youre right but it also shows your envy of not being capable of forming a community and videos that appeal to other people that share your tastes. Act man tried to defend a 16 year old from QuantumTV. QTV was abusing copystriking and making videos fixated on the boy's subscribers and age.

There are many of us 'gamers' that are content with our careers and being able to discuss our hobbies privately and anonymously. Some of us also enjoy watching these people make fools of themselves on the internet.

Many of those so-called communities you mentioned are very toxic. The retro gaming community in particular has a weird fascination with guys like Metal Jesus Rocks and The Immortal John Hancock. From what I have read many of these guys are exploitative jerks and wield tremendous power through their followers to curb any legit criticism. Youtube will often side with them because of their channel sizes.
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
It's really surprising to see a lot of people mocking and laughing at the act man in this thread
Like, quantum's an actual douchebag, this shouldn't really be a debate, being racist, EXTREMELY homophobic (like dude this guy said that one gay dude should be a pulse victim), and an unprofessional scammer should get you removed off the platform.
I get that people have known how sanitated YT is but there's no reason to completely dismiss our plight
also, fucking trying to dunk on him by talking about how he was a dipshit 5 years ago on twitter is fucking stupid seeing as how it was 5 years ago. Quantum hasn't changed in those 5 years while the act man HAS.
Like genuinely, you guys DO realize how absurdly racist and sexist the internet was in 2016-2017, right? Anti SJWs were at their highest point and trump had just won, and "edgy" humor was dominating on every part of the net. Him being racist in those years REALLY shouldn't surprise you, and the fact he doesn't tweet about that shit anymore makes it clear that he regrets what he said in the past. This forum can be a bunch of clowns sometimes, i swear
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
All of this speaks to the folly of building a career around something on such shaky ground. YouTube is clearly the fucking pits when it comes to its content creators, but how long do people have to see others getting burned, before they realise that they really shouldn't be hanging a career and their livelihoods on it? See also Twitch.

Nobody should be sacrificing an actual living for this insubstantial bullshit. I absolutely get the strategy of supplementing income with a gaming stream, but to do that exclusively? Insanity.

And until more people start realising that, this shit will continue on and on, with YouTube not giving two fucks, because there's always another rube waiting in line to replace whoever's just been deleted by their petty bullshit.
Everyone wants to make millions easily - people look at YouTubers that got lucky and have millions of followers and think ‘hey, I can do that too’. Then they don’t realise they are doing the same 9-5 job for pennies.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
All of this speaks to the folly of building a career around something on such shaky ground. YouTube is clearly the fucking pits when it comes to its content creators, but how long do people have to see others getting burned, before they realise that they really shouldn't be hanging a career and their livelihoods on it? See also Twitch.

Nobody should be sacrificing an actual living for this insubstantial bullshit. I absolutely get the strategy of supplementing income with a gaming stream, but to do that exclusively? Insanity.

And until more people start realising that, this shit will continue on and on, with YouTube not giving two fucks, because there's always another rube waiting in line to replace whoever's just been deleted by their petty bullshit.
Everyone wants to make millions easily - people look at YouTubers that got lucky and have millions of followers and think ‘hey, I can do that too’. Then they don’t realise they are doing the same 9-5 job for pennies.
 

Otre

Member
There are many of us 'gamers' that are content with our careers and being able to discuss our hobbies privately and anonymously. Some of us also enjoy watching these people make fools of themselves on the internet.

Many of those so-called communities you mentioned are very toxic. The retro gaming community in particular has a weird fascination with guys like Metal Jesus Rocks and The Immortal John Hancock. From what I have read many of these guys are exploitative jerks and wield tremendous power through their followers to curb any legit criticism. Youtube will often side with them because of their channel sizes.
Every community has toxic people, whats your point? Enjoying watching people make fools of themselves while hiding behind the screen is a toxic trait too. Good for you if you enjoy your job, its obvious absolutes do not exist. Enjoy being a minority statistic of the working world.

In this case im defending a guy who tried to defend a kid from a cunt that abuses copyrights and was acting all high and mighty because of his subscriber count.
 

nikos

Member
Don’t know who he is, or the details of the situation, but it should be common sense to not talk shit about the company that pays your bills on twitter, especially when you have a following.
 

Sorne

Member
I've had it happen to me last year, and I have had to switch careers. It sucks, but that's reality. Like it or not, youtube is not a job, it is income. They don't give you a 401K and a Christmas bonus. They are not an employer.
That being said, I think youtube is 100 percent wrong in this case, and QTV is quite insufferable as a personality.
I would argue that if you can make a sustainable living off your income, then its your job. But guess it depends on how you look at it
 

Inviusx

Member
I read through all this drama only to find out this actually has little to do with this Quantum TV dude, that beef was only tangentially related. It was this Act Man guys own edgy tweets that got him de-monetised.

This cycle happens all the time, channel gets big, personality thinks they are invincible, personality gets reminded that they are actually just another number under the thumb of papa YouTube.

Many such cases.
 

The_Mike

Member
 

Unknown?

Member
So you're saying that YouTube is a job and we should have been given proper employment status, salaries and worker's rights while working under them?

Because YouTube sure gets a lot of financial benefit by denying this.

I'm sure you're a swell guy and all but this is an outright nonsensical comment. You realize there's an actual count for the number of registered accounts on NeoGAF, right? That's analytics. Are you going to block every Geocities page that has a visitor counter? The only way for you to avoid this thing is to literally leave the entire internet.

EDIT: Also, the reason we're having this discussion in the first place is because you recommended Odysee, a site that has an analytics page for channel managers, of which I critiqued.
Or having Google Analytics and other similar software blocked via DNS.

Look I'm sure it can be helpful somewhat but analytics are just a way for big tech to track you and trick you into thinking you need it for getting bigger numbers but trying to get a larger audience isn't a good goal. You want a quality audience that engages because your content connects with them.
 

RPSleon

Member
People who say "oh too bad now they have to go get a real job" is just sad old boomers, angry because they've made bad life decisions and can't play video games all day, make videos about it and earn money. Or jealousy.

Either way, this is actually people's livelyhood that gets taken away by unfair means. I would like to see how you guys would react if something like that happened to you.
That annoys me too. These people provide a service, for money, that millions of people actively subscribe to watch. If that isnt a definition of a real job i dont know what is.
 

triphero

Banned
It's really surprising to see a lot of people mocking and laughing at the act man in this thread
Like, quantum's an actual douchebag, this shouldn't really be a debate, being racist, EXTREMELY homophobic (like dude this guy said that one gay dude should be a pulse victim), and an unprofessional scammer should get you removed off the platform.
I get that people have known how sanitated YT is but there's no reason to completely dismiss our plight
also, fucking trying to dunk on him by talking about how he was a dipshit 5 years ago on twitter is fucking stupid seeing as how it was 5 years ago. Quantum hasn't changed in those 5 years while the act man HAS.
Like genuinely, you guys DO realize how absurdly racist and sexist the internet was in 2016-2017, right? Anti SJWs were at their highest point and trump had just won, and "edgy" humor was dominating on every part of the net. Him being racist in those years REALLY shouldn't surprise you, and the fact he doesn't tweet about that shit anymore makes it clear that he regrets what he said in the past. This forum can be a bunch of clowns sometimes, i swear

Nah, bull crap.

Act Man was making racist jokes till only last year, at the very least, on YT. Perhaps this year too, wouldnt know cause I stopped watching his vids, not cause I was offended just bored.

He has changed, lmao. And even if he had, which he hadn't, Trump winning doesnt excuse anything.

Youtube is not a human right. If you are a racist edgy douche, and the platform you are on says you will get banned for doing that, and then you get banned for doing that, you are to blame for that. Whining about how unfair and how evil Youtube is, is ridiculous.

Actman is a racist idiot. Who floutes Youtubes rules, so he deservers to be banned. Take ownership of the consequences of your actions.
 
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Nah, bull crap.

Act Man was making racist jokes till only last year, at the very least, on YT. Perhaps this year too, wouldnt know cause I stopped watching his vids, not cause I was offended just bored.

He has changed, lmao. And even if he had, which he hadn't, Trump winning doesnt excuse anything.

Youtube is not a human right. If you are a racist edgy douche, and the platform you are on says you will get banned for doing that, and then you get banned for doing that, you are to blame for that. Whining about how unfair and how evil Youtube is, is ridiculous.

Actman is a racist idiot. Who floutes Youtubes rules, so he deservers to be banned. Take ownership of the consequences of your actions.
What racist jokes? Can you link them?
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
So QuantumTV gets nothing for actually calling his mother?

Dumb tweet by Act Man probably out of emotion, but he didn’t actually do it.

I know nothing about QuantumTV was just responding to that moronic chain of tweets. "Dumb" is a pretty generous assessment lol

These people need to live in the real world.. I have no problem with this being a way to make money, even if I find them obnoxious clearly they are entertaining some people.. but that entire opportunity is provided by google, they are just contract employees. Just like every company they depend on these employees and make money off of them but they still need standards.. calling threatening to DOX your employer "dumb" or a "petty reason" to essentially lose your job is so far out there. Imagine anyone doing this at a normal job, it doesn't matter if it's satire.. what a fucking dumbshit.
 
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Back when I was constantly searching for information/news on upcoming television technology, Quantum would pop up in my feed. I clicked on the guy and like some of his content because he was pretty straight forward and charismatic, so I clicked the YouTube subscribed button. He was a lot less analytical than other TV tech channels that I follow but it didn't bother me that much.

Unfortunately...

The more I looked at his content and monitored his behavior, this dude was clearly a sad, twisted, religious nutcase. The bad vibes I got off of him all started when he was constantly going after other AV YouTubers for no reason. Shit was straight up mean for absolutely nothing. Digging through other videos and comments he made against all sorts of things made me immediately unsubscribe from his channel and just forget about him. Guy is an absolute narcissist and will poison any YouTuber he sets his gaze upon.

Cut to a few months later, to my not surprise, his narcissistic ass is plastered all over YouTube by which other people are standing against him. It's really amazing how just one fucking charismatic narcissistic dirtbag can have such a negative cascading effect on YouTube/social media.

Fuck that guy and fuck YouTube for taking down Act Man for doing the proper leg work in taking down Quantum.
 
Act Man was making racist jokes till only last year, at the very least, on YT. Perhaps this year too, wouldnt know cause I stopped watching his vids, not cause I was offended just bored.

Okay, I'm getting fed up with comments like this.
You're literally using Twitter-level internet cancel culture bullcrap to justify a megacorp's rampant and flagrant abuse of it's creators and what is effectively the theft of their money.
At this point, "racist joke" is such a broad and sweeping generic accusation that hardly even means anything in the internet lexicon (I've literally seen it being used against people criticizing China's stance on Taiwan, for example), so how the hell am I supposed to read that and go "yeah he deserved it"?
If you want to convince me of that, give me at least something tasteless and amoral on the level of the Logan Paul suicide forest incident, for crying out loud. "I don't find him funny" doesn't cut it, and this is coming from a guy who doesn't find him funny.
 
No idea about the racism angle but I assume it's hyperbole about videos like this that he just believes because someone on twitter told him its true.

I'm mean, I get him receiving flak for Fa***** but I have been watching him for years on youtube. I can't recall a single racist thing he has said. I never follow people on Twitter, so I don't know what he posted there.
 
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