So the tear downs are wrong and the consoles don't have PCIe 3.0 2.4GBs WD drives?...you realize that MS contracted out Seagate to develop these drives for Hotswaps right? Parity is paramount, there's no gen 3 internal Gen4 external trickery from MS. It's looking desperate at this point Gaf
Would it not be better to compare the same game doing the same thing on XSX and PS5?
I'm a big confused about that.
Oh did they mean the One X comes with a SSD?
I'm a big confused about that.
You show a expansion SSD teardown to debunk the internal SSD part?
I mean all the videos until now points to the internal SSD being a WD SN520.
There are theories about that only being the SSD on demo/preview Xbox send to journos and the retail uses another SSD but nobody showed a tear down of the SSD in the retail unit to be sure.
Same for these out of context Jez (usual) twitters lol
Yeap there is no issue for performance... an PCI-E Gen4 controller can works without any issue with a PCI-E Gen3 SSD.Confused on this bit as well. Regardless, the drives Microsoft is using fall within PCIe gen 3 specs. So it really doesn't matter if its Gen 3 or Gen 4 slot. Gen 4 is backwards compatible with Gen 3 drives.
No. They did with bc and the PS5 lost despite the ssd is faster.
People are saying the games aren't coded for the ssd, while forgetting xbox one x has an ssd.
And even if the PS5 has some sort of secret sauce, it would only benefit first party games. No third party game developer want to spend extra time on a game for one platform.
Or... Maybe that's why games costs 80 euro on ps5?
Because the topic is about the internal SSD that come with Series X and not the expansion SSD sold by Seagate.why?
We really need to talk about how they cheaped out and painted the holes green instead of including an led.time to find something else to fucking whine and complain about....did anyone look at the holes on the top of the XsX? Too big? Too small? Let's run with that for a bit, warriors.
I like the quick resume time.
What are the odds of this thread dying a quiet death, now that some of the worst FUD in all of 2020 has been thoroughly debunked?
That is interesting.
May I present to you...THE CHINESE!!!!And no one said it's not supporting PCIe 4.0, because it needs to be slightly customized to run through 2x PCIe 4.0 lanes instead of naturally 4x lanes like all m.2 SSD's. This will ensure that you can't upgrade the internal storage cheaply as all of them are meant to run through 4x lanes.
May I present to you...THE CHINESE!!!!
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The "original" Apple PCIe SSD that came with my Macbook Air uses 4-lane m.2 PCIe slot, yet I can use it on my own PC USING A F*CKING PCIe 1X SLOT.
AND IT WORKS.
And you know how much I had to pay for that adapter? 20 USD. t w e n t y b u c k s.
So... on XSX AND XSS people should be able to use "off the shelves" parts for internal storage as well as expansion using adapters that basically just change the pinout in connections (which is cheap af).
In fact, on the x360 era, you could upgrade the internal storage using a fairly common WD blue hard drive that you could buy for cheap. You just had to change the firmware and that was it. The chinese even sold those enclosures for around 10 bucks iirc.
Actually, no, that's wrong.Is MS confused?
And no one said it's not supporting PCIe 4.0, because it needs to be slightly customized to run through 2x PCIe 4.0 lanes instead of naturally 4x lanes like all m.2 SSD's. This will ensure that you can't upgrade the internal storage cheaply as all of them are meant to run through 4x lanes.
it's a customized drive. yes. But it supports PCIe gen4 with 2 lanes. That's what many people here (including yourself) just don't want to admit.So the teardown confirmed the OP.
It is a WD SN530 drive.
These that said it was debunked or FUD are eating crow right now
Actually, no, that's wrong.
Yes I presume you cannot add every SSD into the box. But every SSD should also work with just 2 lanes if the system doesn't offer more. It is the same like with graphics cards. You can stick a x16 card into an x1 slot (if it is open) and use the card. It works. It won't be fast, but it works.
So if you stick a x4 nvmessd into the slot, it should work (in theory). There still can be a software side problem (no supporting drivers, etc) but the lanes should not be the problem.
From the specification of the m.2 slot this should work. From the software-side it might not. So even if you try it you may failHave anyone tested that? It's not that simple.
It is the same drive... any teardown will show the same drive SN530.it's a customized drive. yes. But it supports PCIe gen4 with 2 lanes. That's what many people here (including yourself) just don't want to admit.
Just keep your little fanboy warrior inside yourself away from the keyboard
From the specification of the m.2 slot this should work. From the software-side it might not. So even if you try it you may fail
But it would be interesting for sure to test it with a 2TB SSD. But how many so small 2TB SSDs are there that are that fast.