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Xbox Series S storage - what the hell were Microsoft thinking?
BlackTron
Member
The Series S is an extremely smart product at an affordable price.
For anyone who wants more storage space and/or processing power, they made a product for you too. It's called Series X. Given the price of storage expansion, you may as well just buy an X and get the extra processing power too.
Admittedly it's a bad situation because the X is not easy to get, funneling people into having to get the S, a subpar console. It meets the needs of many gamers just fine at $299, with the benefit of actually existing as an option. If it's not good enough for you, just wait. In my opinion, the S is cheap enough to buy to tide you over, and can be sold later or stay in service as an easy extra Halo box for a local/LAN type situation.
It was ALWAYS intended as the cheapo option, like the Xbox 360 arcade.
For anyone who wants more storage space and/or processing power, they made a product for you too. It's called Series X. Given the price of storage expansion, you may as well just buy an X and get the extra processing power too.
Admittedly it's a bad situation because the X is not easy to get, funneling people into having to get the S, a subpar console. It meets the needs of many gamers just fine at $299, with the benefit of actually existing as an option. If it's not good enough for you, just wait. In my opinion, the S is cheap enough to buy to tide you over, and can be sold later or stay in service as an easy extra Halo box for a local/LAN type situation.
It was ALWAYS intended as the cheapo option, like the Xbox 360 arcade.
Tarnpanzer
Member
If you don´t have like 5-6 six different multiplayer games installed, the storage is more than sufficient for enough AAA/AA single player games(+Indies).
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akaFullmetal
Member
I understand the xs trying to be entry level and cuts had to be made but for a digital system to have the smallest storage doesn't make sense. I guess Microsoft thought it doesn't matter since they offer an over priced ssd addon you can buy.
Hezekiah
Banned
No idea, never bought anything at that size!Does 8tb require being plugged in at the wall too?
I remember when looking for higher than 4tb many many many years ago, everything higher than 4 needed to be plugged in & were quite big.
Also upgrading from my 1tb card to the 2tb card was quite depressing, £375(only £75 away from another series X)
I recently bought a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro for £233. It's so much better being able to buy an off-the-shelf solution.
They were thinking we'll sell them £375 expansion cards and make a shitload of money. Let's just get them to buy the console first.
DaGwaphics
Member
Storage is tight, but with any old USB HDD you have around the house, it's not that bad.
NinersAllDay
Banned
This is not that a big deal. Buy a cheap USB disc to move games back and forth if you find yourself playing more than 3 games at a time.
Riky
$MSFT
Amazed how people get away with this compared to what others get banned for.
Banjo64
cumsessed
About 6 months ago I was told that someone calling the Series S a ‘retard console’ was me reporting someone for having a differing opinion
FingerBang
Member
I disagree with OP with the console being bad. For the price, it's really good. There had to be compromises.
But for everyone saying it's the best deal for the price... yeah, no. I understand console shortages are a big thing, but for $100 more, spec-wise, a PS5 Digital Edition is a much better deal. Of course there's no game pass there, so.
But for everyone saying it's the best deal for the price... yeah, no. I understand console shortages are a big thing, but for $100 more, spec-wise, a PS5 Digital Edition is a much better deal. Of course there's no game pass there, so.
If you are shopping in the 299 range, money is probably an important decision maker. If it wasn't he would just bought the Series X.
One could argue for $100 more than a PS5 DE you could get the Series X and you now also have UHD BR player more storage and better performance, but that's not his budget is it?
Magic Carpet
Member
The 5 TB spinning platter expansion was not a good idea either. I had it filled with tons of games I was not playing and after a time they stop updating if your not playing them regularly. So if out of the blue I wanted to play something I would have to download an update anyway.
So I yoinked the 5TB and just use the SSD's and games I'm actually playing.
So I yoinked the 5TB and just use the SSD's and games I'm actually playing.
That's not true. It runs at 1440p with enhanced texture filtering. Only Xbox One games are as-is, unless it's FPS Boosted/AutoHDR.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Xbox Series S Will Not Run Xbox One X Enhanced Versions Of Backwards Compatible Games
If you were expecting to play Xbox One X Enhanced backwards compatible games on the Series S, think again...
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Theres plenty of consoles in my country. You can easily get any of them if you want.
Lognor
Banned
Series X consoles? What country?Xbox Series S Will Not Run Xbox One X Enhanced Versions Of Backwards Compatible Games
If you were expecting to play Xbox One X Enhanced backwards compatible games on the Series S, think again...
Theres plenty of consoles in my country. You can easily get any of them if you want.
Banjo64
cumsessed
The Series S runs all OG Xbox games at native 1440p and the One X enhanced 360 games play with their enhancements at native 1440p instead of 4k.Xbox Series S Will Not Run Xbox One X Enhanced Versions Of Backwards Compatible Games
If you were expecting to play Xbox One X Enhanced backwards compatible games on the Series S, think again...
Theres plenty of consoles in my country. You can easily get any of them if you want.
This is how Xbox Series S backwards compatibility really works
UPDATE: For the authoritative take on Microsoft's new flagship console, Digital Foundry's full Xbox Series X review is …
www.eurogamer.net
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
I live in Denmark, scandinavia
So it runs them as good as one x? Just 1440p instead of 4k?The Series S runs all OG Xbox games at native 1440p and the One X enhanced 360 games play with their enhancements at native 1440p instead of 4k.
This is how Xbox Series S backwards compatibility really works
UPDATE: For the authoritative take on Microsoft's new flagship console, Digital Foundry's full Xbox Series X review is …
Banjo64
cumsessed
Correct.
But Xbox One enhanced games that are X enhanced aren’t available on Series S, it just plays them in the One S profile.
That's Xbox One games. Not 360 games. 360 games run at 1440p rather than 4K that the One X does.Xbox Series S Will Not Run Xbox One X Enhanced Versions Of Backwards Compatible Games
If you were expecting to play Xbox One X Enhanced backwards compatible games on the Series S, think again...
Theres plenty of consoles in my country. You can easily get any of them if you want.
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
So xbox one x enhanced xbox one games aren't supported by series, but enhanced 360 games does?
why?
I have like 3 games installed on the SSD, those are the ones I play regularly, everything else I want to play later are in cold storage in a 4TB drive.
As long as I can store the games on a external drive I have no issue with space.
FingerBang
Member
I own both PS5 and XSX, so for me both consoles were worth 499. But no, the extra $100 between the PS5 DE and the XSX are nowhere comparable to the $100 between XSS and PS5DE. You get an extra, what, 20% in teraflops? Jumping from a XSS to a PS5 you get 250% more power and double the storage. The difference in performance between XSX and PS5 is honestly ridiculous, to the point it has never affected any of my purchases. They're equal to me. You can easily add more storage on a PS5 DE and still pay less than $499.
But yeah, if it's a matter of budget, I get it. Especially because you can currently buy an XSS at $299 but not a PS5 at $399. I expect MS to release a XSX DE at some point once/if it actually becomes possible to enter a store and buy consoles.
Because One games enhanced for One X leverage extra RAM the Series S doesn’t have. 360 games don’t have that issue.So xbox one x enhanced xbox one games aren't supported by series, but enhanced 360 games does?
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
So enhanced xbox one, one x games enhanced, doesn't work on Series S.
But enhanced xbox 360 games works on Series S.
Yes
Antwix
Member
Yeah the storage is pretty crappy, but you can just buy a ~2 TB non-ssd external drive to alleviate the problem. I do the same thing on my XSX. Unless I'm in the minority, I'm never playing more than 2 or 3 games at the same time. When I'm done with a game or two, I just swap game(s) from internal to external and vice versa. Plus games that don't take advantage of the ssd like older 360 games can just stay on the external. Takes just a few minutes to transfer depending on how big it is. Although I imagine it is a huge problem for games like Call of Duty that will absolutely kill your storage quickly.
Topher
Gold Member
To be fair, looks like the post was deleted.
RafterXL
Member
OMG, a budget console for casual users that's 40% cheaper has less storage!
The console is fine for what it's trying to do, which is offer an affordable way for people to keep playing current games. I'd never buy it, but I'm not going to complain about it because I'm not the target audience.
P.S. If the storage is too small and adding a cheap SSD to store and transfer games is beneath you, you are also not the target audience.
The console is fine for what it's trying to do, which is offer an affordable way for people to keep playing current games. I'd never buy it, but I'm not going to complain about it because I'm not the target audience.
P.S. If the storage is too small and adding a cheap SSD to store and transfer games is beneath you, you are also not the target audience.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Still feels weird that my one x can do things the series s can't.
Fuck it i might grab a series x when my one x is starting to choking the games.
Zeroing
Banned
I do not want to throw wood into a fire but people buy macbooks with only 250gigs of storage and it is premium device...
So...also do not see a problem here, it is a budget console, storage is expandable and maybe before you buy, you need to take into consideration the small internal storage it has.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
But here is the thing:
1. Its an all digital console so while the upfront price is "cheap". You will spend more buying games through the Xbox store or having to stick to subscribing to game pass.
2. The internal storage is way too low for a all digital console. Think about it, COD and GTA are easily over 100GB and they will get bigger over time. Heck, next gen games will get bigger, especially on Xbox
3. The storage expansion options are an extra cost. If you plan to game on this console long term, you will need to pay that cost at some point. Which is a waste because the same amount could have been used to get a Series X.
4. Having to transfer, delete and redownload games will get very annoying especially if someone plans to play multiple games through game pass
5. Devs have to spend extra time and resources optimizing for this console even after PS4/ Xbox one games stop being created
IMO, MS could have just made a disc-less Series X, charged $399 and call it a day because at some point the slimmer consoles will come and the prices will go down anyway.
I wouldn't even recommend this console to a causal because it has too many compromises.
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DrAspirino
Banned
Storage, as its name implies, is for STORING games, not necessarily playing them.
I also have a Series S, but I also have attached to it a 2 TB USB-3 HDD, and it works fine. I currently have like 5 or 6 games installed on the console's internal memory and the rest is "resting" within the 2 TB drive. If/when I want to play something, I simply copy it to the internal drive.
So far, I haven't even needed to do that, since that's most of what I play simultaneously. :S
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
just remember, Valve thought it was OK to put 64gb in the steam deck base model. It can always be worse.
I do agree with you though, that is BS
MacReady13
Member
Weird shit to want more SSD space? Please tell me how they will be able to save more games on the tiny SSD provided? What will the cost amount to if and when they need to buy an extra 1TB of SSD for their series S?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
love how you're lowballing it by specifically mentioning cod vanguard and not warzone which is 100+ gb for multiplayer
although, you could go to gamepass and get halo infinite which is 40+gb for multiplayer
Hezekiah
Banned
£249 for the console with 360GB storage, plus £200 for 1TB proprietary SSD.
Makes far more sense to just pay £450 for a proper next-gen console, get better performance on every game, and 800GB of storage space .
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Well Warzone would make it worse for series s, right? Its not like I'm talking positively about it.
I mention vanguard because that's the kid of games I play.
Topher
Gold Member
I get what you are saying about Steam Deck, but you can add 512GB of expansion to Steam Deck for less than half of what it costs to do the same on XSS. Of course, Steam Deck just needs microSD rather than SSD so it isn't really a good comparison either way.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
the 512gb model costs more than the XSS + SSD expansion (especially when you consider the fact that getting 512gb storage for the Xbox currently is 129 bucks)
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No. Weird shit for you to expect MS not to prioritize SSD storage quantity in their cost cutting to make the series S a reality.
If they had a higher budget for losses, they’d have probably put that towards cooling (for higher clocks), or more VRAM or more GPU CUs.
512GB storage is fine, for the market tier. People will manage to shuffle between 5-6 installed big games, and use cold storage for the rest.
A significant portion of the PS4s 120 million units sold are most certainly still on the 500gb HDD, and nobody has died. You’ll be fine
soulbait
Member
Once the storage is nearing full, you can always buy a cheap external drive to use as cold storage. Also, non new generation games can run off the external drive, so you can keep the internal drive just for current gen games. Sure, it is not that convenient to swap games between drives, but if you are on a tight budget it works for some.