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Xbox Expected to Gain Console Software Market Share over PlayStation & Nintendo By 2026
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WitchHunter
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Goalus
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Isn't Game Pass an additional business model that extends the pool of established distribution channels (physical, digital, free-to-play, GWG) that developers can choose from? I.e. the opposite of a handicap because it gives them more freedom of choice?
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
What were you trying to say? no matter how I try to read it it makes no sense.
Do devs give up their freedom to make their games and earn on their dlc because of games?
You mean, like the cut Sony and Microsoft takes when you sell something on their platform?
People are really spinning gamepass. This guy thinks that if someone released their game on game pass then Microsoft have a schematic for devs that says make the game as shit as possible.
Game pass is really living rent free in some people's mind. It's just a matter of time before the same people gets into an asylum because of the fear lol.
silent head
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TheGodfather07
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I wouldn't say never. People would have said the same thing during the PS2 era but look what happened. I know they sold about the same in the end but 360 took alot of marketshare from Sony. They definitely dominated them in the US. PS3 was getting its ass kicked.
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Time has changed since then.
People now have friends lists and achievements they are attached to.
WitchHunter
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WitchHunter
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Good, then just skip the comment. No need to understand the garbage it conveys : D. I just don't get ppl sometimes. Someone throws a banana with stripes before them and they try to find out why it's a striped banana... bonkers.
How did this thought formulate in your mind?
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
kingfey
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Seriously. You guys have no hope honestly.
WitchHunter
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WitchHunter
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kingfey
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I have no idea what you are smoking. I think I need to rethink my life for little bit.
I dont understand how some one like this exist.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
I wish they would include PC because MS has gamepass there as well and that is another way they can get market share from Sony and Nintendo.
ManaByte
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That dude says Gamepass needs to make 5 BILLION a month to be viable.
PaintTinJr
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As far as I could see Microsoft invested heavily each time in 3 distinct project strategies one decade at a time, and the lack of content was in the years between one project funding drying up and the next project funding finally getting diverted to core game development, and each time they were given massive budgets - virtually limitless at the initial inception of Direct - X - Box project IIRC.
Their joining the market budget - to be no.1 - seemed to taper off a few years before Kinect, where it was obvious they were relying mostly on 3rd party games - but still looks like around 10years of a project.
Their second Kinect/MediaTv budget seemed to end a few years before xCloud/Gamepass but probably funded the Xbox1 -rather than the Xbox division itself - hence the mandatory Kinect and TV features that stayed for 5(?) years, with the One X being a salvage situation - but again looking at the timelines looks like roughly a 10year project for ROI.
The current Gamepass/xCloud project that probably funded the Series S and XsX (for both console and cloud server use IIRC going by CU arrangement in the APU) was probably due to taper off funding in the next few years, but because the project is now fully integrated into Windows, and Phil's title has been upgraded to all Windows gaming, openning the door to 10s of Billions in publisher acquisitions, Microsoft now look like they aren't just spending big in cycles, but that Xbox gamepass gaming is core to their entire business, like PlayStation has been for Sony since the PS2 launch.
So my overall point is that it is weird to say MS weren't investing in Xbox, when they've probably outspent PlayStation + Nintendo combined for 25years, just they haven't had the ROI, and have needed new initiatives to keep them in the business and the lag between project funding hasn't resulted in good investment in development of studios to get organic growth of new AAA games for Xbox IMHO.
WitchHunter
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Flutta
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Sold or rented? There’s a big difference between the two.
WitchHunter
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kingfey
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MS invested in the wrong things, which led to xbox one fiasco, while neglecting important investment.
Xbox from OG timeline to Phil taking the mantle, they had small devs putting out content for the console. Instead of actually investing in those studios, expanding them, and buying more studios, they throw their money at useless stuff like the kinetics.
Their investment was geared toward TV, once Xbox one was revealed.
Overall, the lack of coherent investment hurted the xbox brand.
Goalus
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I could see that happening unless it is in really great shape already. I don't think it would be a problem though if it means that the game is in better shape at launch.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ah, so you also think Starfield will be a big boost to the software market share ? Nice.
Zeroing
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Where have I heard this before
Pedro Motta
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ManaByte
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Swift_Star
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All of that and they couldn’t compete for the last 10 years or so.It's simple.
- Subscription Services
- Supply Chain
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
PaintTinJr
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But what was their alternative? Without those projects Xbox would have been shuttered, because investors didn't see it making a ROI on any of those projects and probably weren't able to buy into the bigger Windows picture.
Direct - X - box was always a defence strategy of MS owning PC gaming by default from Windows' market share, and them seeing how Sony could have it all, and displace them via PlayStation 1 success and the TV/electronics, where convergence meant PCs were going to be in everything at some point - like they are today, hello android watch with linux kernel. Despite it being really poor for gamers being told "next year" over and over for exciting games, MS have indirectly gained so much from xbox. Has it been good for gaming? who knows? but the $2T company probably has very few complaints.
Neofire
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Are you insinuating MS will gain market dominance from GP?
Compete in what ? Game Pass wasn't around 10 years ago.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Are you insinuating MS will gain market dominance from GP?
No I'm replying to the post quoting the big ass slide and talking about competing with "all this".
edit: or are you talking about the starship troopers gif ? Not quite sure.
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ManaByte
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If Sony didn’t try to market the PlayStation 2 as computer in the beginning (hell the official name of the console is the PlayStation 2 Computer Entertainment System), then they wouldn’t be dealing with a hungry MS today. They taunted a sleeping giant.
ManaByte
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No he’s insinuating that some people are so afraid of Starfield (for some completely unknown and hard to see reason) that they keep trying to convince themselves that it won’t be out this year.Are you insinuating MS will gain market dominance from GP?
Zeroing
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Xbox brand made MS seem cool. Without it younger people would not care about MS. They MS are the laughing stock of tech news… it’s one mess after the other. Even movies make fun of MS.
With that said, Xbox seems to be cool in America and in gaming forums!
I think everyone should look at the broad picture!
ManaByte
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MS is the second largest computer company after Apple. What universe are you living in?
Zeroing
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Big doesn’t mean people care or love the company!
Look at Apple, they are as exciting as watching a candle slowly burn away…
Bo_Hazem
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These claims are early-access to April's Fool Day.
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yurinka
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1st party are always a small part compared to 3rd party. And this time they include all their 1st party games day one on GP. So to have way more 1st party studios would help but in this case shouldn't imply a big growth in software sales as the graph in the OP expects to happen.
To see such big software market share increase, before that they should have a similar growth in hardware market share and isn't happening, plus with the chips shortage and specially the monster demand for PS5 doesn't seem that it will happen. The only reason of Xbox getting close in current hardware sales is PS5 being very supply constrained due to the chips shortages.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Microsoft isn't the one putting out that market research.
Y'all can't be that dense right ?
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Guilhermegrg
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Nothing against it, but bullshit numbers all within margins of error in order to keep legitimacy of company if it doesn't happen does not reality make.
Javthusiast
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Oh boy another console war thread.
Brace yourselves!
Brace yourselves!
Lognor
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I don't know why this analysis is triggering so many people. It's really not that controversial.
The analysis is based on software market share. How many studios has Microsoft acquired in the last couple of years? The Activision acquisition will go through next year. That is a ton of market share growth through acquisition. COD sales alone will have a material impact on software market share, in Microsoft's favor.
The analysis is based on software market share. How many studios has Microsoft acquired in the last couple of years? The Activision acquisition will go through next year. That is a ton of market share growth through acquisition. COD sales alone will have a material impact on software market share, in Microsoft's favor.
Goalus
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Which are expected to last until 2025, and suddenly the "only" reason is becoming a pretty big deal.
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yurinka
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No, Game Pass is another game subscription. To include it a game there is like to include it on Gold, PS Plus, PS Now etc.
For a dev it's better to include a game in a subscription instead of day one, once it already sold all the sales it could, after discounts and price cuts, specially if it has DLCs or MTXs. The exception is if the platform holder chooses your game as one of the few chosen ones out of the hundreds of games released that month to be there day one, and offers a generous enough moneyhat to compensate all the lost sales related to include the game there.
If GP or any other subscription would dominate the market, it would mean that most devs would go bankrupt because in the current market dominated by sales of games and addons, hundreds of games get released every month and are profitable. But that reduced to a few per month would mean all the other ones would die.
Even in the current context if subscriptions grow too much they will remove time of players spent on bought games, meaning less games sold.
Yes, it's a big deal. Plus there is a huge global financial crisis coming, so even if available many people won't be able to buy consoles. So I think that what will happen is that devs will continue focusing in crossgen games during a longer period of time than originally expected (plus a bigger focus on multiplatform games vs exclusive games) to compensate that.
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