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Xbox downtime leaves some users unable to boot games (if they hadn't set their console to home/primary)
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Deleted member 471617
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No issues with playing AC Odyssey earlier today. Microsoft needs to eliminate their DRM bullshit on Xbox. It's fucking ridiculous. Not just because of this current issue but also, you can't use the console without first setting it up with an online internet connection. Then, you can't play games unless you verify them first. So if you have a disc based game for example, install the game and try to play it, a pop up message will appear telling you to connect online to basically verify the damn thing. With PS4/PS5, you don't need an internet connection to setup your console or play your disc based games. Just install the game and once done, boom, you can start playing. Don't need a system update, game update or any verification for the game.
Eventually, a time will come when millions of consumers have this issue and it lasts for days if not weeks and will be a huge clusterfuck for Microsoft. No reason to have this DRM bullshit. Everything should simply just fucking work.
Eventually, a time will come when millions of consumers have this issue and it lasts for days if not weeks and will be a huge clusterfuck for Microsoft. No reason to have this DRM bullshit. Everything should simply just fucking work.
Xbox being a shithead about requiring online for the console to even set it up is shitty. GT7 also shitty locking all the game behind an online connection.
This isn’t Xbox vs PS. Single player gaming, as you rightly pointed out, doesn’t need a DRM check.
In fact, I’d argue in 2022 that an online check is even less useful now. Everyone wants to be online to play games. Internet is very available in a large part of the world. These outages just highlight how it’s not an internet issue but a the games we pay for are tied to some companies server issue.
Online check-ins and setups and all that just needs to die for game consoles.
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kingfey
Banned
This isnt just xbox only. PC players also experience this shit with other launchers. I am basically forced to have internet connection for Rockstar launcher.
MS on other hand, is just shit in general. They are so hard on this drm shit, that they made windows store shit for a long time. Its why steam didnt have competition from windows store. Because MS is fucking that stupid to change.
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daffyduck
Member
At the prices cell carriers charge, you shouldn’t.
THE DUCK
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Omg omg omg the sky is falling, I can't play games for 12 hours out of the 8000+ hours a year we have. So much whining over nothing.
And even with that 95% of the users probably just watched a show or played on thier playstation, switch or phone. Poor babies.
And even with that 95% of the users probably just watched a show or played on thier playstation, switch or phone. Poor babies.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
Well I don't think anyone should reasonably assume that our national infrastructure is ever going to be 100% on at all times without downtime. There are literally 1000's of variables that could effect a systems outcome. I myself am amazed and appreciative that we have built systems that works as reliably as they do. I am typically a glass half full type of guy.
kiphalfton
Member
Just got back into playing something on Game Pass on PC yesterday, for the first time in several months, and now shit isn't working.
Yeah because one person having an issue is the same as millions of people having the same issue. Besides it's not like Microsoft shouldn't have contingency plans for this sort of thing. They're literally one of the biggest companies in the world, so this is completely unacceptable.
Yeah because one person having an issue is the same as millions of people having the same issue. Besides it's not like Microsoft shouldn't have contingency plans for this sort of thing. They're literally one of the biggest companies in the world, so this is completely unacceptable.
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I Master l
Banned
I did test a bunch of games offline .. all purchased games works fine offline 'as it should be' most gampass games also work fine but there
are some gamepass games that didnt work ''gears 4, hellblade,ori,gears ultimate'' without an online connection even when my xbox is set
as home console .. WTF MS
are some gamepass games that didnt work ''gears 4, hellblade,ori,gears ultimate'' without an online connection even when my xbox is set
as home console .. WTF MS
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kingfey
Banned
Its still down.
That fortnite xcloud really did numbers on them.
Serves them though. Hope this forces them to remove the drm now.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Downside of the game sharing but I get it. You essentially get to play free games if you share with a person, but the downside is you got to be online for games on said home console.
The Eradicator
Member
Not true, as it was happening to me, and my console was set as my home.
Valedix
Member
Not sure if you set your Xbox to home console as a quick workaround.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I've heard from multiple people that if you are having issues and you do a full restart. Like a proper shutdown, restart. It fixes the issue.
I find that funny.
I find that funny.
anthony2690
Banned
Is it actually though?
Cause I feel like people assume the Xbox automatically sets your console as your home (when in fact you have to manually set it)
I was online last night and night before playing with friends issue free, whilst the only friends having issues are the ones who game share. (As obviously their consoles are not set to home)
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Team Andromeda
Member
So very true, It's almost like the worst thing was for MS to make a 12 Teraflop GPU and also spend big on its studios. It meant the SONY fans have gone into meltdown and looking for any excuse to knock it.
I can't wait for next months showcase
cormack12
Gold Member
The text was to 999 though....
I got stung by this initially like a year ago. I had an S already set up, and the X was the second console. I don't game share on xbox like ps so I just picked it up and took it on vacation. Couldn't play anything because I'd not set it to home on the new box.
In the end I just tethered it and fixed it that way. But obviously if live is down that wouldn't be an option. I think they need to make it clearer for those not game sharing but will be moving console to offline places.
Also need to make it clear which games won't even start without active connections etc
ZywyPL
Banned
I've heard from multiple people that if you are having issues and you do a full restart. Like a proper shutdown, restart. It fixes the issue.
I find that funny.
I just remembered how many times I used to punch/kick my old PCs as a kid when something didn't go as expected, now I ask myself what the hell was I expecting lol
Alpha Male
Member
I have mine set to Home console and I couldn't launch many of my games...actually it was some 360 games and GamePass games like Halo and Forza Horizon that didn't work but the rest seemed fine.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
I realize an anecdote can't in capsulate the entirety of an issue that it's being compared against, but to play devil's advocate, I was referring to an issue that effected nearly 150,000 people. Again, I think it's unreasonable to assume that our modern miracles are going to be without fault and I wouldn't classify a few hours of downtime every few years as unacceptable.
In this case, the issue could have entirely been avoided, much like I avoided it, by simply having the Xbox set to home. Now for people who are game sharing that's not going to provide much comfort, but that's the inherit cost of gaming the system.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Either it is a confession about the string of Sony Anti Consumer monster thread that pop up every so often as mostly concern trolls or it is a victim card played early
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In Cold Blood
Banned
I saw Xbox Live was trending on twitter for its servers being down, so I went to GAF and saw that it was also down for a while at the same time.
I then remember what Kratos said in his account suicide thread and all of a sudden it all fell into place....
I then remember what Kratos said in his account suicide thread and all of a sudden it all fell into place....
Probably the first thing a bunch of people did was to check gaf to see if others were having a similar issue.
StateofMajora
Banned
If you buy digital on console I can only laugh at you
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Xbox wasn't really intended to game share with the "set xbox to home" setting, so it's really on you if you share games with something.
I share my games with my gf, and while it's annoying when I can't play, it doesn't happen often on my part. It is still unacceptable though.
But the console that has set xbox as home console can play regardless of being online or not. AFAIK it will check online once a week or so to see if you are still home console or something.
VanCityGamer
Member
I've heard from multiple people that if you are having issues and you do a full restart. Like a proper shutdown, restart. It fixes the issue.
I find that funny.
That didn’t fix it on Friday night for me. So it was more complicated than that. I tried absolutely everything.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Y'all still complaining about this ? wasn't this fixed already ?
I never had any issues over the weekend in the first place. So the lesson is, set your console to your Home console asap.
I never had any issues over the weekend in the first place. So the lesson is, set your console to your Home console asap.
reinking
Gold Member
I like how some people are telling customers to stop bitching and do something else. Which would MS prefer? People to move on and play something on a competing console without being bothered? Or be a little anxious for MS to get their shit together? I understand that this is tech and stuff happens but MS is pushing for cloud gaming and these kind of outages do not instill confidence to consumers. There are a lot of potential cloud gaming customers out there that are only reading headlines. While outages are far apart from each other those people just remember seeing headlines over the years of "Xbox Live being down."
MikeM
Member
What does this have to do with Live service killing access to games already on your console?
Team Andromeda
Member
Sony fans are looking for any reason to knock the XBox.
nowhat
Member
There's a massage in the settings? Does it come with a happy ending?
I guess I need to reconsider getting a Series console.
Isa
Member
I had problems myself, when I finally had time to game. Thankfully I have other consoles, handhelds, PC. But it sucked as that's where my group is as well. It is worrying for the future and really reaffirms my love for older gens and PC/emulation(not current gen). Thankfully it was resolved without me needing to do anything apart from wait. Also my console was set to primary from the One X, Series X, PS whatever has the option I set it as such. When I checked it was deselected and trying to reapply the setting it would hang on the loading symbol for over half and hour before I'd just quite out to dash.
Hopefully they do something to not lock people out of their purchases, but I'd wager it won't happen in the Own Nothing and Be Happy future.
Hopefully they do something to not lock people out of their purchases, but I'd wager it won't happen in the Own Nothing and Be Happy future.
Zeroing
Banned
What if they are Nintendo fans all along and this is just a plot to make both fanbases fight each other?
Bumblebeetuna
Member
What exactly is there to talk about? People are talking about DRM DRM DRM but it’s just basic offline settings and game sharing.
Deerock71
Member
systemr123
Member
It’s even worse than that, I was playing halo wars and the game kept closing during gameplay because of this issue. I think I’ll cancel my gamepass and sell my series x because both gamepass quality is going down and you can’t even play games you legally bought and/or downloaded via gamepass because ms f*cks up. If this stuff even legal?
kingfey
Banned
This isn't forced online, like gt7.
This is unexpected error, which shows how shit MS DRM is.
If they hadn't done that fortnite xcloud move, then this wouldn't have happened at all.
I am glad it happened though. DrM has no place on our systems. I hope this forces MS to change their approach.
kingfey
Banned
Calm down there buddy.
This is just service error from their side.
It doesn't happen every day. It was unexpected error, that come during the weekend.
eastcoastkody
Member
its already working again. It was what a day and a half? which is unusual but tolerable. This has happened maybe 2-3 times now, in the 15 years i've been using XBOX.
Meanwhile Playstation online has gone down like 300 times since i've started using it in 2009. And this was seemingly only effecting dummies like me who gameshare
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Ironic, since overall Xbox live has more downtimes then PSN in general. But i see a lot of people here in full damage control and some even are hypocrites around here. "It's working again bla bla bla". Yeah even when GT7 was working again, we still saw multiple articles for days.
The media was completely exaggerating and the xbox fans loved it, and now look at some of them here.... ostrich effect.
How is this not forced drm?
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I'm an xbox fan, but I think it would be great if they can relax some of their DRM to allow something like 48 hours time frame to check in. I dunno, but they must be able to sort something out.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
What kind of server architecture you have that, when a lot of people connect, fucking license server also go down. Makes no sense. Wish that they would make it more like steam is handling stuff, but if they don't, then fucking strengthen the server architecture.
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Connxtion
Member
Set console to home, never worry about losing internet or server access again for SP games.
Share your games, then you’re out of luck and that’s on you and not MS fault
It’s a non issue
we all know we need an active connection to the servers if we are sharing games. (Think over the years it’s happened to me a handful of times, granted am not on the Xbox much now a days but still)
Share your games, then you’re out of luck and that’s on you and not MS fault
It’s a non issue
we all know we need an active connection to the servers if we are sharing games. (Think over the years it’s happened to me a handful of times, granted am not on the Xbox much now a days but still)
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Stare-Bear
Banned
Also couldn’t play Flightsim, a game I spent more than £200 on…
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