TKOFromTokyo
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Xbox controllers are still using AA batteries ‘because of long-term Duracell deal’, spokesperson claims
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Mr_Potato
Banned
I never have to plug anything, I have the charging station and I just put my Dualsense on it, click, recharged. Hard to do better than that. No AA batteries to change ever.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It never happens? When did You held dualshock 3 ps3 controller that hold more than 40-50% of it's original charge?! that's 3-4 hours vs 40 on AA set
And all replacement internal batteries are just as bad as they sit in warehouses for years. Lion batteries slowly die even when NOT USED. There is no such thing as new internal ds3 batteries
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Chukhopops
Member
All those people with magic built-in batteries that never lose charge even after years.
There is no such thing as a battery that doesn’t lose charge over time and charge cycles. Even from an environmental point of view non-replaceable batteries should not be a thing that exists.
There is no such thing as a battery that doesn’t lose charge over time and charge cycles. Even from an environmental point of view non-replaceable batteries should not be a thing that exists.
Mr_Potato
Banned
Never happened a single time to me. I always bought the new console (PS3 then PS4 then PS5) before any controller battery dies on me...
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Personally, I prefer alkaline batteries because I don’t have the same risk of batteries leaking for my old controllers or handhelds as I keep all of my old games.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Just because it never happened to You, does not mean it didn't get worse. I 100% guarantee you that Your ds3 and maybe ds4 do not hold their original charge.
And if You will want to play your nostalgia ps3 in 10-20-50 years, it's gone.
My ds4 controller from 2017 bought NEW slim was already holding for about 50-70% of it's original charge. Terrible.
Look at phones and laptops. After 2 years, it's all shit usually. And it;s all LiON
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Mr_Potato
Banned
As a charging station user, I love the convenience of just putting the DualSense on it and never having to care about batteries anyway. I would never change that for an AA batteries controller.
00_Zer0
Member
I have a long term deal with eneloop batteries. If Sanyo/Panasonic keep making them then I'll keep buying them. That's my long term deal, lol. I for one love the fact that I can pop out these rechargeables Agnes put a fresh pair in. No wait time, especially if you have a stock of extra eneloops already charged up.
Tons of stuff around my house still use AA and AAA batteries so I prefer a controller that doesn't have a battery cell permanently attached inside it.
Tons of stuff around my house still use AA and AAA batteries so I prefer a controller that doesn't have a battery cell permanently attached inside it.
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Grinchy
Banned
Yeah there's a guy on twitch with a Duracell sponsorship where he uses a Xbox One controller with their "premium" batteries.
It tracks how much juice the batteries have left with a timer. Its always at 99% lmao. And he has to constantly tell you why these are better than normal Duracell batteries and how great the Xbox One controller feels, despite not using it when he's not doing sponsored streams
It tracks how much juice the batteries have left with a timer. Its always at 99% lmao. And he has to constantly tell you why these are better than normal Duracell batteries and how great the Xbox One controller feels, despite not using it when he's not doing sponsored streams
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
sure, I see that. I will probably also get charging station for dualsense but You are locked to charging with cable or dock.
And that would be a lot of batteries for the price of that dock and much better battery life on each set (2 AA batteries are over 4k mah).
The thing I agree is waste. Normal batteries are a bit more waste. At least Dualsense now has usb C
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Like the rechargeable batteries you can put into an Xbox controller avoiding the landfill problem you are talking about? I'd rather chuck old batteries into a landfill than a controller that doesn't charge any more. Options are always better.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
What do you do with old DS batteries that are bulging and eventually leak? If I could use AAs, then I could take them out and replace them without a hitch years later.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
MS probably has it because of Sony, the xbone didn't have it at release... The PS4 did.
At that point in time either could say, just use the Bluetooth headset you were forced to buy for your phone
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I can take out 15 years old controller out of my drawer, plop batteries in it and play for 40 hours. I am talking about xbox 360 here.
What other devices You have from 15 years ago with internal battery that work just as new? Take Your oldest smartphone with internal batter and it will not work more than 30% of it's original life.
Old notebook? 15 minutes instead of 2 hours.
That matters to me. The damn analog sticks rubber is starting to come off on it's own and change into powder. That's how old the thing is. LiOn would not survive that time. it just dies over time not even used. read on it people
What other devices You have from 15 years ago with internal battery that work just as new? Take Your oldest smartphone with internal batter and it will not work more than 30% of it's original life.
Old notebook? 15 minutes instead of 2 hours.
That matters to me. The damn analog sticks rubber is starting to come off on it's own and change into powder. That's how old the thing is. LiOn would not survive that time. it just dies over time not even used. read on it people
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Lemonade by Beyonce
Banned
Super weird. I have eneloops but I wish it also had an internal. Having both would be awesome.
metareferential
Member
Rechargeable AA battery > proprietary non-removable (shitty) battery.
There's no way you can spin this. Do they still sell the play and charge pack?
The Elite controller has a built-in one, with its charging base (that you get with every controller).
It's good to have options.
There's no way you can spin this. Do they still sell the play and charge pack?
The Elite controller has a built-in one, with its charging base (that you get with every controller).
It's good to have options.
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MeatSafeMurderer
Member
What happens to your DS5 when the internal battery starts to fail and only lasts 2-3 hours. I've not had this issue with either of my DS4s (yet...probably helps that I'm using them with a PC and can turn the lightbar right down, far below what the PS4 can apparently manage) but one look at forums and you'll find them littered with posts complaining about battery life, especially after they've had it a couple of years. Li-ion batteries don't last forever.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Ah that's what I needed.
Yet another reminder about how disappointed I am that the PS5 isn't backwards compatible with PS1-3 games.
Especially when the knockoff PS3 controllers that are packaged and made to look like OEM controllers are so terrible. I guess there's always the option of using an extra long USB cable!
MarkMe2525
Member
In my ignorant opinion this is backwards and the rep misspoke. My guess is BECAUSE xbox still uses batteries, duracell pays them for the exposure. Of course this is just a guess, but it seems more logical to me.
devilNprada
Member
Regardless of battery type, swapping out controllers is absolutely the fastest way to continue...
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
MS ripping customers off and they defend it. SMH...
ZoukGalaxy
Member
I really hope that this deal will last forever, because AA slot is the best of 2 worlds. You can have eneloop (Panasonic) rechargeable that last like forever (I have eneloop from 10 years) or buy an Li-ion kit from Microsoft.
So, you don't have to fucking diassemble your controller to replace the internal battery with an cheap ass china copy lasting no more than 30% of the original time.
But people prefer integrated battery because is "oh it's so convenient and AA is so [what time is it.gif]" then moans like babies because "oh my internal battery is dead, I have to buy a new controller or fucking trying to replace it with a poor copy"
This world is doomed, so much wasting.
So, you don't have to fucking diassemble your controller to replace the internal battery with an cheap ass china copy lasting no more than 30% of the original time.
But people prefer integrated battery because is "oh it's so convenient and AA is so [what time is it.gif]" then moans like babies because "oh my internal battery is dead, I have to buy a new controller or fucking trying to replace it with a poor copy"
This world is doomed, so much wasting.
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Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
I prefer AAs because internal batteries have a finite life span. I can always buy new rechargeable AAs though.
I am willing to deal with an internal batter if it can be easily replaced with an aftermarket option years later. The unfortunate reality is that while it is easy for me to replace the battery in a PS3/4/5 controller it is beyond the skillset of the average consumer
I am willing to deal with an internal batter if it can be easily replaced with an aftermarket option years later. The unfortunate reality is that while it is easy for me to replace the battery in a PS3/4/5 controller it is beyond the skillset of the average consumer
bitbydeath
Member
I traded my OG DS4 controllers and PS4 in for a PS5. As long as they last a gen I don’t care.
Honestly having a charging dock is the best thing, just get in the habit of putting your controller on it whenever you stop playing and it feels like it lasts forever. No messing with anything ever.
ProgenitorCastle
Banned
I'm team batteries! One, with Xbox controllers at least you can always use them wired which I prefer anyways. But no batteries last forever so if they do die it's more convenient to swap out AAs for another pair over buying an entire new rechargeable controller
alabtrosMyster
Banned
It's not like you can't change the battery at all in the DualShock controllers, every decade or so is no big deal.
Magog.
Banned
That's the telling thing isn't it? Their premium controller had built in batteries so their standard controller is clearly a budget option with kickback money from Duracell.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You can but:
New Dualsense is a bit of an ass to open
You need security torx (not a problem)
YOU NEED A NEW BATTERY and Sony don't sell these. Chinese battery is just as worn out by then probably.
Or You an just... imagine that - slap AA batteries in a controller
Virt McPolygon
Banned
Get some Panasonic Eneloop rechargeable batteries and you're set for the generation.
Ceadeus
Gold Member
Well, for the Xbox I've had the same battery pack since the very first Xbox one. For the quest 2, I use rechargeable batteries, they come in pack of 4 and one touch controller uses 1 AA.
devilNprada
Member
Congratulations, but doesn't change the fact swapping controllers is the fastest way to continue playing...
You need two controllers and two battery packs for efficiency...
Plus I am spoiled; now I want wireless charging I don't even want to plug shit in anymore...
MeatSafeMurderer
Member
That's actually one of the quickest ways to kill Li-ion batteries, they really really really do not like sitting at 100%, second only to regular deep cycles (100% -> 0% -> 100% -> 0%, etc). Ideally you want to keep them in the 20%-90% range. If you're not going to be using it for a while you should leave them at ~40% to slow their degradation. They're just not chemically stable.
partime
Member
All you guys defending this nonsense, Nokia phones, Gameboy, 3DS, heck my old Toshiba laptop, you just turn on and go.
I was always amazed how stupid the arguments were with battery technologies of Playstation & Xbox controllers.
Didn't Duracell do something similar with electric toothbrushes?
I was always amazed how stupid the arguments were with battery technologies of Playstation & Xbox controllers.
Didn't Duracell do something similar with electric toothbrushes?
01011001
Banned
they are a bad thing if you're a fanboy and need something to mock.
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bitbydeath
Member
Eh, again as long as they last the gen I don’t care what happens to them after.
SoraNoKuni
Member
Such environmental waste and backwards thinking in this type of deals.
Had Xbox and always hated that I had to get a battery pack or settle with batteries.
That's not pro consumer at all, even my ps3 controllers still have juice In them.
I guess someone must praise their home..
Had Xbox and always hated that I had to get a battery pack or settle with batteries.
That's not pro consumer at all, even my ps3 controllers still have juice In them.
I guess someone must praise their home..
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MeatSafeMurderer
Member
I mean...leaving them on charge like that you'll be lucky if you get 2 years out of them, let alone 6-8. Actually you'll be lucky if they don't burn your house down. A lot of heat is generated in that last 5-10% and it's not unheard of for them to go up in flames, especially as they get older and start to degrade.
MeatSafeMurderer
Member
Unlike Li-ion batteries run of the mill alkaline batteries aren't hazardous to the environment and are much more easily recycled...so...pick your poison.
x@3f*oo_e!
Member
For most people on this forum you just described heaven.
On the plus side, when I had to replace the DS4 dead battery it somehow fixed the L-stick drift ..