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Worst console launch in History.
- Thread starter Ozrimandias
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Not that I agree with him, but let's use sales number to judge that.My friend who is a Nintendo fanboy who hates Sony disagrees with you. He says that PS5 launch titles are awful.
Nintendo Switch launch title sales in 1st week vs Hardware sold
Zelda BOTW
US(1month) - 906K hardware - BOTW - 925K
Japan - 330K hardware - BOTW 184K
UK - 80K hardware - BOTW 70K
France - 105K hardware - BOTW 91K
Spain - 45K hardware - BOTW 44K
Dark Souls Remake, Spiderman MM, and Sackboy
Japan - 118K hardware - DSR 18K, MM 18K, and Sackboy sub 2k.
UK - ?? Hardware - DSR ~17K, MM 57K, and Sackboy sub 9K.
More countries will be updated soon. For now Zelda BOTW alone is bigger than those PS5 launch titles.
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Aceofspades
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Its just demand far outstrips supply. That's all.
Komatsu
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As much as I love the console, the US launch of the SEGA Saturn was one big clusterfuck of incompetence. Springing the console on the public during E3 without making arrangements with the big retailers was truly one of the worst decisions taken by the Japanese leadership.
The PS5 launch shines brightly in comparison. Come on.
The PS5 launch shines brightly in comparison. Come on.
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OrtizTwelve
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With regards to PlayStation, this launch is similar in terms of hype and hysteria like what I saw during the PS2 launch back in 2000. Very similar.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Do you mean the worst Xbox launch in history?
Xbox One launch : FM5, Killer Instinct, Ryse Son of Rome, Dead Rising 3
Xbox Series X : Nothing
PS4 launch : Knack, Killzone Shadow Fall
PS5 launch : Demon Souls, Astros, Sackboy, Godfall, Spiderman Miles Morales
Xbox Series X launch game is worse than Xbox One
PS5 launch game is better than PS4
Xbox One launch : FM5, Killer Instinct, Ryse Son of Rome, Dead Rising 3
Xbox Series X : Nothing
PS4 launch : Knack, Killzone Shadow Fall
PS5 launch : Demon Souls, Astros, Sackboy, Godfall, Spiderman Miles Morales
Xbox Series X launch game is worse than Xbox One
PS5 launch game is better than PS4
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TrebleShot
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Not sure I agree with most of the sentiment in this thread. I'm guessing its coming from most people who failed to get either console or the one they wanted.
The PS5 launch is by far the best and most exciting console launch I have experienced the only others that come close are the PS2 and the X360 and those are fairly far behind in terms of quality at launch and hype.
People stating no games are either willfully ignorant or simply miserable.
The PS5 has several extremely high quality games that are exclusive to the platform that need to be experienced before judged.
Spider man has incredible graphics and gameplay. Not to mention AAA production values the only comparible launch game from previous gens is what? Kameo? Black flag?
Then you have Demons Souls, I have never played a souls game before and I'm blown away., the visual fidelity is incredible and the gameplay is tight as f, SSX? Ryse?
Then you have the platformers, astros playroom is incredible I spent the launch day playing through the entire game its an experience ill remember in the future gens similar to when I got my snes as a child for Xmas and played Mario all day. Its golden and fantastic and as a 32 year old I was beaming from ear to ear and those kind of games aint my jam.
This launch has been an unbridled success for Sony and slightly lesser so MS.
Its not a lie the jump from PS4 to PS5 is much more significant than the hump from PS4 to PS3 for many more reasons but the best one is this launch simple FEELS next gen and its exciting.
The PS5 launch is by far the best and most exciting console launch I have experienced the only others that come close are the PS2 and the X360 and those are fairly far behind in terms of quality at launch and hype.
People stating no games are either willfully ignorant or simply miserable.
The PS5 has several extremely high quality games that are exclusive to the platform that need to be experienced before judged.
Spider man has incredible graphics and gameplay. Not to mention AAA production values the only comparible launch game from previous gens is what? Kameo? Black flag?
Then you have Demons Souls, I have never played a souls game before and I'm blown away., the visual fidelity is incredible and the gameplay is tight as f, SSX? Ryse?
Then you have the platformers, astros playroom is incredible I spent the launch day playing through the entire game its an experience ill remember in the future gens similar to when I got my snes as a child for Xmas and played Mario all day. Its golden and fantastic and as a 32 year old I was beaming from ear to ear and those kind of games aint my jam.
This launch has been an unbridled success for Sony and slightly lesser so MS.
Its not a lie the jump from PS4 to PS5 is much more significant than the hump from PS4 to PS3 for many more reasons but the best one is this launch simple FEELS next gen and its exciting.
oldergamer
Member
Dont be a warrior
Xbox had
gears tactics
The Falconeer
Tetris effect
Tell me why
Not a great launch line up on either. However the fact u guys keep saying xbox had nothing is pathetic.
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YeulEmeralda
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They always allocate the big shipments to the US.
They do this because most gaming media are American, most ecelebs are American and the US is a big market.
Both Microsoft and Sony want to win in America.
Airbus Jr
Banned
No trying to be rude but did you just include Tetris?
And...
Tell me why !!
Ain't nothin' but a heartache
Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a mistake
Tell me why
I never wanna hear you say
I want it that way
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buenoblue
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I'm playing killzone shadow fall right now at 60fps and it's glorious. My tv does a great job at upscaling and it still looks great graphically.
I look at it like this, if you were gonna buy it anyway in the next 18 months you might as well buy it now cause your not gonna save any substantial money waiting unless you wait years.
waquzy
Member
You can't be serious? Astrobot! Hello!!! Easily the best tech demo ever released, it's like playing in a huge imaginative PlayStation museum.
Malakhov
Banned
Ps5 is one the best console launch I've ever had. Demon's souls and miles destroys everything else for me.
Your friend is a dumb ass! Sales mean nothing early when they sell everything out
JTCx
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djjinx2
Member
Don't even bother, you will just get goalpost shifts or "those are terrible" spins.
Meanwhile I'm still in awe at gamepass and how many games I want to play.
Good games are good games, next gen or not.
Warriors will always push Spiderman and Demon's Souls in your face and make a lol joke.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
i was so excited. got my xbox and it lasted 4 days before it died. the PS5 doesn't have any games i want to play. well there's Demon's Souls which is a remaster of an 11 year old game... i've waited this long to play it so i'm sure i can hold off another few years.
i'll wait for the inevitable slim/pro revision. i'll wait for the hardware/software issues to be fixed and of course wait for games to play.
i'll wait for the inevitable slim/pro revision. i'll wait for the hardware/software issues to be fixed and of course wait for games to play.
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GymWolf
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Not to sing praises for sony but demons and spidey are already a better launch line up than kz sf and knack or resistance and whatever was on launch day on ps3, even astro seems like a better cute little title compared to knack (i prefer knack because it's basically a brawler but that's another story)
You can still be uninterested of course but not for lack of good options.
(Okay maybe only 2-3 options are not a lot but you have third party games too in the mix)
oldergamer
Member
I listed games that came out. Tetris effect is actually enjoyable. Tell me why isnt my kind of game but its still first party.No trying to be rude but did you just include Tetris?
And...
Tell me why !!
Ain't nothin' but a heartache
Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a mistake
Tell me why
I never wanna hear you say
I want it that way
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
What reasons did you have to buy the PS2, PS3 or PS4?
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Just been on the top list of GP games...
Played that on X1
Played that on 360
Finished that on X1
That was crap on 360
Finished that on X1
Played that on X1
Was never gonna play that.
Not interested.
Finished that.
Not interested.
Not my genre.
oldergamer
Member
I know. They will. I dint even bother listing free updates and extra content for first party games for that reason.
Ive been super impressed with gears tactics. Really fun strategy game with some super impressive graphic detail.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
Everytime I see one of your posts it starts with this lol.
Worst in history , like Atari Jaguar is saved now.
To me is funny because countries near mine says is has shortage and all and I can walk to a store and buy both, I bought a series X while my elbow was over a ps5 (that I will buy eventually but I’m waiting ironically for it to have more games).
In short there’s many ways to besides buying directly a cable company also offers a ps5. But I know is a crazy exception because I see lots of Spaniards at the mall buying the consoles and it will not take long to have shortages.
For me whatever I will get ps5 only after they announce a date for GOW ragnarok. Until then I have 7 (or more) years of Xbox games to play.
To me is funny because countries near mine says is has shortage and all and I can walk to a store and buy both, I bought a series X while my elbow was over a ps5 (that I will buy eventually but I’m waiting ironically for it to have more games).
In short there’s many ways to besides buying directly a cable company also offers a ps5. But I know is a crazy exception because I see lots of Spaniards at the mall buying the consoles and it will not take long to have shortages.
For me whatever I will get ps5 only after they announce a date for GOW ragnarok. Until then I have 7 (or more) years of Xbox games to play.
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Riky
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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Naaaaa. The Jaguar launch was a real mess. It was delayed and most of the launch games delayed or cancelled. It was way worse.
Trimesh
Banned
None of that seems to be a reason to buy these consoles to me - and this is coming from someone that bought 4 generations of PlayStation and 3 generations of Xbox at launch. I think the final realization came when I got an email from Sony asking if I wanted to pre-order, and realized I didn't have any real interest in doing so. And no, this isn't an "I got an Xbox instead" post because I'm just as disinterested in that as I am the PS5.
I'm sure at some point there will be games on these machines that will make me want to buy them, but the launch lineup just doesn't do it for me.
OneShotThrill
Member
Damn seriously? 4 days wtf???
Swipeyowifelike
Member
This has to be an act right............right!?!?!?My friend who is a Nintendo fanboy who hates Sony disagrees with you. He says that PS5 launch titles are awful.
Swipeyowifelike
Member
You said all of this while have gotten past launch consoles. I cant even say you're entitled, just heavily dipped in rose tint.
ripeavocado
Banned
it was going to be the worst even without covid19.
With the pandemic it became a joke.
Nothing works
Swipeyowifelike
Member
Swipeyowifelike
Member
So the opposite of the thread then. Well played.
The Shift
Banned
So the opposite of the thread then. Well played.
Oh, I agree the PS5/Xbox Series launch content is staid, cynical and downright boring. It doesn't aid enthusiasm in that these new consoles are basically a GPU upgrade with a SSD quality of life update. More glaringly - the game makers are so established in the genres they produce and take no risks. A great time for a disruptive influence to enter the market but that's not happening anytime soon as Sony and Microsoft have sucked all the air out of the room.
Fitzchiv
Member
I managed to win the preorder battle, but was thinking the other day how shit it is the amount of kids who will want one of these consoles for Christmas/parents who'll have to move heaven and earth to make it happen - and ultimately not get what they want.
This whole launch philosophy of aiming for the "holiday season" seems a complete farse to me. These consoles sell out. The demand is probably three times higher than availability, and that forces people to spend stupid money in order not the let the kids down. I've seen PS5 and XSX on eBay for upwards of £700, which is profit the companies aren't making, so if they're aiming for a "holiday launch" they should be making sure they have the stock available to let anyone who wants one, get one. They've already got a high price point which rules a few out, but for me it's pretty inexcusable that you aim for a time of year that maximises demand and specifically don't cater to it.
Fuck the pair of them for that to be honest.
This whole launch philosophy of aiming for the "holiday season" seems a complete farse to me. These consoles sell out. The demand is probably three times higher than availability, and that forces people to spend stupid money in order not the let the kids down. I've seen PS5 and XSX on eBay for upwards of £700, which is profit the companies aren't making, so if they're aiming for a "holiday launch" they should be making sure they have the stock available to let anyone who wants one, get one. They've already got a high price point which rules a few out, but for me it's pretty inexcusable that you aim for a time of year that maximises demand and specifically don't cater to it.
Fuck the pair of them for that to be honest.
Trimesh
Banned
Yeah, I got previous consoles because I could always find something I wanted to play in the lineup. Maybe it's also because the current generation has been a big disappointment to me and all the new consoles seem to be promising is more of the same half-cooked shit - except it's going to be shiny because it's ray-traced. As I said, I'm sure at some point there are going to be games that I want to play - but I haven't seen them yet and consider the hyped up pseudo enthusiasm about the crap that IS available makes me roll my eyes a lot.
SaturnSaturn
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PS1 Launch Titles (some not all):
XBOX 360 Launch Titles (some not all):
Everything listed above was a better launch in terms of games, this new gen is total shit, "but my spidermans and astrobottttt and sackboy" yeah if you are 9 years old maybe thats cool. Demon Souls remake i could see be cool for lots of people, but thats 1 fucking game, every other console had diversity in games. So yeah, its the worst launch in memory, or maybe on par with ps4 and xbone (looking back on the bone it it actually had some interesting titles.)
- Rayman
- Ridge Racer
- Battle Arena Toshinden
- Armored Core 2
- Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore
- Dynasty Warriors 2
- Ridge Racer V
- SSX
- Tekken Tag Tournament
- TimeSplitters
- Unreal Tournament
- Midnight Club
- Need for Speed Carbon
- Resistance: Fall of Man
- Ridge Racer 7
- Tony Hawk's Project 8
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
- Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
- Genji: Days of the Blade
- Killzone Shadow Fall
- Knack
- Resogun
- Super Motherload
- Jet Set Radio Future
- Dead or Alive 3
- Project Gotham Racing
- Oddworld Munchs Oddysee
- Amped
XBOX 360 Launch Titles (some not all):
- Amped 3
- Call of Duty 2
- Gun
- Kameo: Elements of Power
- Peter Jacksons King Kong
- Perfect Dark Zero
- Project Gotham Racing
- Quake 4
- Ridge Racer 6
- Tony Hawk American Wasteland
- Ryse
- Killer Instinct
- Crimson Dragon
- Dead Rising 3
- Zoo Tycoon
Everything listed above was a better launch in terms of games, this new gen is total shit, "but my spidermans and astrobottttt and sackboy" yeah if you are 9 years old maybe thats cool. Demon Souls remake i could see be cool for lots of people, but thats 1 fucking game, every other console had diversity in games. So yeah, its the worst launch in memory, or maybe on par with ps4 and xbone (looking back on the bone it it actually had some interesting titles.)
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But you can play older games with higher FPS and resolutions on Xbox so therefore I need to go out and spend $500 on one right now.
kruis
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PS1:
Launch: in US was 12 months after Japanese launch, Europe had to wait an additional 20 days
PS2:
Launch: in US was more than 7 months after Japanese launch, Europe had to wait an additional month
PS3:
Launch in Europe was four months after US/Jap
PS4:
Launch in Japan three months after US/Europe. Severe shortages in NA/EU for months.
PS5:
- NA/JP: November 12, 2020
- Rest of the world: November 19, 2020
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anothertech
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Craig
killatopak
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one of the best launches in history.
Ozrimandias
Member
No, the Sony Store had only 20 units.
Other retailers had more, I mean "more", but still a very few units. That's the problem
Swipeyowifelike
Member
Rose tinted glasses are definitely on
So you really don't have any experience with prior console launches? Or you're just mad about the last gen not meeting you're needs and expected this one to scratch that itch because its new?