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Windows Central: Xbox Series X $499, Xbox Series S $299, November 10th launch date
- Thread starter Craig of War
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longdi
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insane value. I wonder how Sony can even match this. /sure sure first party something something...
come let us 'pay' you to buy our new Xbox Series consoles.
This will be bigly!
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longdi
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Yes i wonder if all access stacks on top of existing GPU?
GPU = PC gaming too!
PC, Xbox, the way to go for third party games.
On the Series S they probably count on getting more money from digital sales. 1-2 games Digital on Series S probably evens out the difference.
On Series X you can get cheap physical copies.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Hell i hope that ubisoft thing was false. I mean come on, we have proper Ps1 and 2 emulation, just as it to the dam console
turtlepowa
Banned
Alternative theory: This is a planned leak to lure Sony and Microsoft can even go lower.
longdi
Banned
core gamers think gamers will buy an exclusive console to play exclusives games
maybe true for the first 10m buyers
but most will prefer an affordable console and see what kind of games it plays.
with multiplatforms everywhere these days, they are not losing much.
all access will bring up Xbox sales volume, objective is to push GPU subscription levels towards Netflix!
maybe true for the first 10m buyers
but most will prefer an affordable console and see what kind of games it plays.
with multiplatforms everywhere these days, they are not losing much.
all access will bring up Xbox sales volume, objective is to push GPU subscription levels towards Netflix!
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yurinka
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Prices and date looks good. I thought Series S would be more expensive. Seems that with Series S they decided to go with a PS5-like cooler design.
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I bet both Sony and MS already had their own pricing set since while ago and weren't able to change it. I bet PS5 price will be $499 for the normal and $449 for the PS5DE.
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existensmaximum
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You're fucking kidding me? That's actually way cheaper than I would have thought. I'm impressed!
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Where did you even get the Scorn being a launch title bullshit? They have always said its a "launch window game"(2021) and refused to give a proper date.
UltimateUnknown
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That attitude is part of what led to the unmitigated disaster that was the PS3 launch (which they turned around by lowering the price). And the PS3 was coming off of back of PS2, which is the most successful console of all time. As I said, historical data seems to suggest that mass market in general are not willing to pay more than $400-450 for a home console at launch, and launch price is extremely important in building up the initial install base, which creates a snowball effect. If you want it to be successful from the get to and in the long run, that is the value proposition you want to launch with.
Just look at the inflation adjusted launch prices of the most successful consoles:
NES: $428
SNES: $414
Genesis: $393
PS2: $448
360: $395
Wii: $320
PS4: $441
Switch: $316
The only console that breaks this trend is actually the PS1, which launched at around $500 today's price. But most successful consoles are lower. Sony knows this. Would the PS5 be successful and outsell Xbox at $500? Most likely. But if Sony want to completely dominate the market and leave consumers with no hesitation, then they launch at the sweet spot and undercut the Xbox at the same time. That's my opinion.
MrFunSocks
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The only problem with your take on that is that even at USD$599 the PS3 outsold the 360 when it released. The "Great PS3 Turnaround" never actually happened, it came out and outsold the 360 from day 1, and continued to catch it every year after.
THE DUCK
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I dont understand why so many of you have said $399 for the ps5 digital, there is almost zero chance sony wants to lose money at this price.
99% chance they will match with $499, very small chance they sell digital for $449.
Most likely $549 and $499 - which is already pretty good considering the tech.
If I'm wrong ill celebrate and save money with the rest of you.
99% chance they will match with $499, very small chance they sell digital for $449.
Most likely $549 and $499 - which is already pretty good considering the tech.
If I'm wrong ill celebrate and save money with the rest of you.
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ZehDon
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Found Phil Spencer's NeoGaf account
Shambala
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Joke bro joke lol
MrFunSocks
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The USA is not the world.
Having said that, that shows that there was no great turnaround like I said as well.
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MrFunSocks
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Please stop using VGChartz lol. It's bullshit.
I'm not even sure what you're getting at here? The PS4 sales vs the PS3+360? What's that got to do with anything at all?
Jaguar Victory
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All Access incl. Gamepass@$180
XSX@$35 per month, 24 payments in total = $840 - $180 = $660 for the console. If the retail price is $399, that´s an +65% increase.
If the retail price is $499, that´s an +32% increase.
Financing has costs. Mainly risk. Also value of money over time. Also processing and servicing the loan. It's fair for what it is. Folks who can afford it outright will pay outright.
vaibhavpisal
Member
1440p isn't standard tv resolution. You can't buy one. They don't expect people to buy pc monitors for these.
And it would likely struggle at 1080p itself next gen, since nvidia/amd aren't exactly holding back anything.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
$499 is a damn good price. Hopefully Sony matches it or beats it.
Mister Wolf
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Thicc Enigma
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$399 & $499I wish that was true, but it's probably going to be 599 & 499
Bookmark it
No SONY console is hitting $599 again.
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Mister Wolf
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DP
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Mr. PlayStation
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I fear this could be game over for the competition if $299 and $499 are real price points for next gen xbox. Microsoft is going to steam roll over the competition.
Rhazer Fusion
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The XBox One was and still getting decimated by the PS4. That’s what I meant by undesirable position. Yes, XBOne sold better than some of the previous consoles to my knowledge, but it must of not been satisfactory for Microsoft if they resorted to hiding their monthly sales figures for years. Even Nintendo with their newer Switch eventually passed Microsoft’s numbers, so Microsoft probably felt discouraged or even embarrassed.
I was stating why the digital XBOX failed. Most casuals want to primarily play third party games, but they also want the most for their money. That’s one reason the PS4 outsold the XBOne. Cheaper and most of the same games. Technically, the digital One S was the cheapest, but acquiring an One S for around the same price as a digital version wasn’t too difficult at all. Again, there weren’t any noteworthy advantages in buying the digital edition over the One S even for casual gamers.
Maybe my memory is foggy, but when did I make an argument to buy a PS4 which plays all the same games as the Series S for the first two years? I was saying both next generation consoles will most likely have a similar library of games. If Sony went with a higher price for PS5 over the more powerful XSX, that could be detrimental to Sony’s momentum.
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You who claim the Ps3 kept outselling the 360. Numbers please?
Captain Zyrain
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Jaguar Victory
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Gears Tactics
Cyberpunk 2077 (best console version)
All third parties best console version
That's what I'm excited about.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Surely PS5 is going to be cheaper being a less powerful console?
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Exactly for $499 Series X is offering way higher value for money than Xbox One 2013 ever did. Open the pre orders and show your might against the competition MS!
Entroyp
Member
PS easily...unless MS announces a bunch of good games releasing soon or PS5 is $599
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And same value , even better than One X! Which also had this price point .
Entroyp
Member
Well.. the Xbox one had a pretty good launch lineup
Codes 208
Member
No it won’t. The xbox one has frequently been cheaper than the PS4 and they didn’t steamroll shit.
when you include the international sales the two were essentially neck and neck. And when you consider that the xbox brand was next to non-existent outside of the americas and the UK, I would have to say the 360 sold pretty damn good.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
couldn't have agreed more, I think perhaps I might finally be able to try out an Xbox after all
DeeDogg_
Banned
I don’t think you know what confirms means ..
Entroyp
Member
But also Craig and a lack of good games coming out during.. the first year? Two years? That’s MS achilles heel right now.
Alan Silvestro
Member
Now open the preorders so I can buy a ps5! 
turtlepowa
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It's all about the launch price. Later it's: What your firends already have > price