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Will you still buy a PS5 if Sony doesn't retract and keeps their anti-consumer practices from the PS4?

SLB1904

Banned
Last I checked DMC5 was still censored. Why not give the option to the user, like an 18 switch one can flip?

Again its nor a deal breaker but its certainly annoying having an in game character's butt hidden by JJ Abrams style flare when one can go and find free porn so easily.
that was on pcc as well. i play the game on pc. although you could remove it but it was on by default. also they patch out the ps4 version
 

yurinka

Member
At first it was funny but the OT guy is getting annoying with all these threads of Stadia spam, lies and half truths.
 

lock2k

Banned
With the Xbox crazy name being revealed, and E3 getting closer every day, I think it's time to decide. Sony has been getting away with anti-consumer practices for awhile now and several of which are being swept under the rug by PS4 only owners.

However, if Sony were to keep ALL the anti-consumer practices on the PS4 and bring them to the PS5, would you still purchase a PS5?

Let's take a closer look at Sony's anti-consumer practices below.

  1. Censorship on an increasing number of games
  2. Hesitant of crossplay, limited titles that support it
  3. Controlling indie developers with contracts.
  4. PSnow prices
  5. Closing multiple studios despite those studios not losing a lot of money
  6. Weakest streaming platform compared to competitors (Stadis etc.)
  7. Purposely locking the built in PS2 emulator in the PS4 behind a pay wall
  8. Controlling some Japanese retail release dates in the west.
  9. Removing digital codes from offline and online retailers
  10. Rejecting features from other companies which would be good for gamers. (EA Access etc.)
  11. Throwing Vita owners under the bus less than 2 years after release
  12. Complacency
  13. Not helping release original games unless they take control of the IP in many cases.
  14. Ignoring for 5 years of constant complaints from their loyal customers to improve thumbstick durability.
  15. Dismissive PSN customer service.

And there's MANY more I haven't even listed. This is but a brief summary.

I know i'll be hesitant to by one if they keep all the PS4's anti-consumer practice for the PS5.
Looooool
 

Snake29

RSI Employee of the Year
100+ million consoles sold. Do you really think the majority of the people care? Crossplay is not even relevant anymore because they are open for every game.

Heck, they have even the most crossplay games with pc.

You must be fucking stupid.
 
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RScrewed

Member
Microsoft doesn't allow you to upgrade the internal hard of their system, Sony does.

My Xbox One signs me out if my router goes down and it kicks me out of the game. Rare Replay does this all the time. I've lost good progress due to this. Remnants of Microsoft's original "always online policy". Don't have this issue with my PS4.

Sony allows game sharing.

It goes on. You're not gonna read it so I'm not sure why I bothered.
 

GametimeUK

Member
I'll buy a playstation for the exclusives and to play with friends. It's just a secondary machine to me so I don't look into things too deep anymore.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
Edit: Didn't realize the thread was 4 pages in already...I figure about 90-100% of respondents said they would buy a PS5 regardless.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
fuck off with this shit. underage anime crap is the same as the rising antisemitism. the shit u read online.

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Underage like the Sorceress? Same as antisemitism? Take your pills.
Edit: Didn't realize the thread was 4 pages in already...I figure about 90-100% of respondents said they would buy a PS5 regardless.
Or insulting the OP. So rude!
 
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dDoc

Member
hat was on pcc as well. i play the game on pc. although you could remove it but it was on by default. also they patch out the ps4 version

How do I get rid of jj abrams flare on the ps4? Again last I checked game was up to date and flare was still there
 

Yamisan

Member
Play my ps4 daily since launch, my xbox vcr gets played maybe 10 hours a year. Skipping xflop and going with the winner only this time. I don't have time for fails.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
Yes because they make good games. Can you imagine a world where xbox made all the gaming shots and were all we had....... we’d have xbox tv, no resale or borrowing game and loads of shit
 

Kamina

Golden Boy
The fact that Voost doesn’t reply do his own thread is already proof enough that he is just trolling.
After Stadia his trolls are more and more repetitive. What a sad sight at this stage.
 

SLB1904

Banned
How do I get rid of jj abrams flare on the ps4? Again last I checked game was up to date and flare was still there
to be honest, i dont know i don't have the game on ps4. i just heard it was removed in one the latest patch. maybe there is an option to turn it off like on pc
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Well written article OP.
We need more people on neogaf to unmask the sneaky ways of japan.
 

Pimpbaa

Member
Well my only other option is sticking with the Switch. I'm not buying another xbox until they vastly increase the number of exclusives they release a year and at least getting Japanese support to the level they had on the original xbox and early in the 360's life. And I really don't do PC gaming anymore (except for pc only indies). As much as I like my Switch, Nintendo's first party output (and exclusive 3rd party) is almost as infrequent as on the xb1. So I pretty much have to buy a PS5, plus I feel none of the issues in the OP apply to me.
 

dottme

Member
XSX won’t fit under my TV. So I ave to wait for a slim version if I ever want one. I still need to see some more games.
So for the moment, the PS5 is my only option to jump next gen if it ever happen. I might stick with my Switch however.
 
With the Xbox crazy name being revealed, and E3 getting closer every day, I think it's time to decide. Sony has been getting away with anti-consumer practices for awhile now and several of which are being swept under the rug by PS4 only owners.

However, if Sony were to keep ALL the anti-consumer practices on the PS4 and bring them to the PS5, would you still purchase a PS5?

Let's take a closer look at Sony's anti-consumer practices below.

  1. Censorship on an increasing number of games
  2. Hesitant of crossplay, limited titles that support it
  3. Controlling indie developers with contracts.
  4. PSnow prices
  5. Closing multiple studios despite those studios not losing a lot of money
  6. Weakest streaming platform compared to competitors (Stadis etc.)
  7. Purposely locking the built in PS2 emulator in the PS4 behind a pay wall
  8. Controlling some Japanese retail release dates in the west.
  9. Removing digital codes from offline and online retailers
  10. Rejecting features from other companies which would be good for gamers. (EA Access etc.)
  11. Throwing Vita owners under the bus less than 2 years after release
  12. Complacency
  13. Not helping release original games unless they take control of the IP in many cases.
  14. Ignoring for 5 years of constant complaints from their loyal customers to improve thumbstick durability.
  15. Dismissive PSN customer service.

And there's MANY more I haven't even listed. This is but a brief summary.

I know i'll be hesitant to by one if they keep all the PS4's anti-consumer practice for the PS5.
How is this guy not banned yet???
 

nowhat

Member
How is this guy not banned yet???
He is, every now and then, but he's basically like the village idiot. Loud and obnoxious, has a tendency to repeat the same things over and over (this basically same thread has been posted many times before), but ultimately harmless and highly amusing if you don't take him seriously.
 

ZombieTech

Neo Member
Holy hell... so much rampant fanboyism all in the same collective space -- think I may need a detox shower for this one. o_O

#ExitStageRight
 
With the Xbox crazy name being revealed, and E3 getting closer every day, I think it's time to decide. Sony has been getting away with anti-consumer practices for awhile now and several of which are being swept under the rug by PS4 only owners.

However, if Sony were to keep ALL the anti-consumer practices on the PS4 and bring them to the PS5, would you still purchase a PS5?

Let's take a closer look at Sony's anti-consumer practices below.

  1. Censorship on an increasing number of games
  2. Hesitant of crossplay, limited titles that support it
  3. Controlling indie developers with contracts.
  4. PSnow prices
  5. Closing multiple studios despite those studios not losing a lot of money
  6. Weakest streaming platform compared to competitors (Stadis etc.)
  7. Purposely locking the built in PS2 emulator in the PS4 behind a pay wall
  8. Controlling some Japanese retail release dates in the west.
  9. Removing digital codes from offline and online retailers
  10. Rejecting features from other companies which would be good for gamers. (EA Access etc.)
  11. Throwing Vita owners under the bus less than 2 years after release
  12. Complacency
  13. Not helping release original games unless they take control of the IP in many cases.
  14. Ignoring for 5 years of constant complaints from their loyal customers to improve thumbstick durability.
  15. Dismissive PSN customer service.

And there's MANY more I haven't even listed. This is but a brief summary.

I know i'll be hesitant to by one if they keep all the PS4's anti-consumer practice for the PS5.
1. I hate censorship, so I'll hold this one.

2. I don't care at all about crossplay, and even if I did, I don't blame Sony for not wanting to deal with MS in that regard. Not only is Sony the market leader (am I mistaken?), but I wouldn't deal with MS either after what they tried to pull with the Xbox One. I remember that bullshit in the beginning. Don't think I forgot MS lol

3. Eh, as long as I get the games, I don't care. Possibly concerning, but I get it.

4. Don't give a shit about old games.

5. Possibly concerning.

6. Can't say I care about streaming at the moment.

7. Don't care about old shit.

8. I guess it's business? I don't know. Maybe the titles I play aren't hindered by this.

9. Don't care. Probably shitty, but doesn't touch me.

10. Eh, it's business. I get that. Don't care either way since I don't usually use said features.

11. I didn't like Vita, but I get the concern. They let their platform crumble. I don't know the numbers, or if it was for legitimate reason, but that never feels good when you've bought in to it already. I get that.

12. It's a PS5. I know what I'm getting. *shrugs*

13. Completely understand from their perspective. Exclusive titles are important to me, so securing those means I have more reason to buy into your platform.

14. I have a day one PS4 and haven't had any issues, but it seems to be a problem. I thought they fixed it in new controller builds, but I guess I'm mistaken.

15. Outside of cases that concern fraud, I can't say that I care. Never had a single issue.

So, I guess my answer is yes. If they have enough good exclusive titles that match up with the console price, I'll buy a PS5.
 
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I’ve been primarily a PlayStation guy since PS2. But I think I would go with the Xbox first next gen. I think their online services are better. I mainly play exclusives on my PS4. So I’ll probably get a PS5 a few years into the next cycle.
 

hunthunt

Banned
Im gonna tell u in advance that the 100 million of people that will buy the PS5 doesnt give a fuck about the things you listed.

Neither the 50 million of people that will buy the Xbox X care about his stupid name or his weird design
 
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meirl

Banned
With the Xbox crazy name being revealed, and E3 getting closer every day, I think it's time to decide. Sony has been getting away with anti-consumer practices for awhile now and several of which are being swept under the rug by PS4 only owners.

However, if Sony were to keep ALL the anti-consumer practices on the PS4 and bring them to the PS5, would you still purchase a PS5?

Let's take a closer look at Sony's anti-consumer practices below.

  1. Censorship on an increasing number of games
  2. Hesitant of crossplay, limited titles that support it
  3. Controlling indie developers with contracts.
  4. PSnow prices
  5. Closing multiple studios despite those studios not losing a lot of money
  6. Weakest streaming platform compared to competitors (Stadis etc.)
  7. Purposely locking the built in PS2 emulator in the PS4 behind a pay wall
  8. Controlling some Japanese retail release dates in the west.
  9. Removing digital codes from offline and online retailers
  10. Rejecting features from other companies which would be good for gamers. (EA Access etc.)
  11. Throwing Vita owners under the bus less than 2 years after release
  12. Complacency
  13. Not helping release original games unless they take control of the IP in many cases.
  14. Ignoring for 5 years of constant complaints from their loyal customers to improve thumbstick durability.
  15. Dismissive PSN customer service.

And there's MANY more I haven't even listed. This is but a brief summary.

I know i'll be hesitant to by one if they keep all the PS4's anti-consumer practice for the PS5.

16. releasing first party exclusive games on PC, see horizon zero dawn. ☺️
 
With the Xbox crazy name being revealed, and E3 getting closer every day, I think it's time to decide. Sony has been getting away with anti-consumer practices for awhile now and several of which are being swept under the rug by PS4 only owners.

However, if Sony were to keep ALL the anti-consumer practices on the PS4 and bring them to the PS5, would you still purchase a PS5?

Let's take a closer look at Sony's anti-consumer practices below.

  1. Censorship on an increasing number of games
  2. Hesitant of crossplay, limited titles that support it
  3. Controlling indie developers with contracts.
  4. PSnow prices
  5. Closing multiple studios despite those studios not losing a lot of money
  6. Weakest streaming platform compared to competitors (Stadis etc.)
  7. Purposely locking the built in PS2 emulator in the PS4 behind a pay wall
  8. Controlling some Japanese retail release dates in the west.
  9. Removing digital codes from offline and online retailers
  10. Rejecting features from other companies which would be good for gamers. (EA Access etc.)
  11. Throwing Vita owners under the bus less than 2 years after release
  12. Complacency
  13. Not helping release original games unless they take control of the IP in many cases.
  14. Ignoring for 5 years of constant complaints from their loyal customers to improve thumbstick durability.
  15. Dismissive PSN customer service.

And there's MANY more I haven't even listed. This is but a brief summary.

I know i'll be hesitant to by one if they keep all the PS4's anti-consumer practice for the PS5.

Iv pretty much owned every sony and MS console outside of the xbox one so this will be an unbias take on the matter above. ill say that for the most part right now im leaning towards the Xbox series X alot more concrete info and the fact that MS has halo 6 at launch plus forza already has me more intriged then godfall by miles

Sony's anti-consumer practices

1. "Censorship on an increasing number of games"
Huge turn off so much so that most jp games that get a multiple platform release im buying on the switch. I also dont like how this has pretty much only affected jp devs which is insane since most of those games are way tammer then most of the stuff coming out of the west cough cough GTA

2. "Hesitant of crossplay, limited titles that support it"
I think its BS that sony picks and chooses what to crossplay they should of done it for all fighting games Guilty gear xrd,Blazblue tekken, undernight re birth kof 14 ect. All of them would of benefited greatly from that the community for those games is like split between 3 platforms.

3."Controlling indie developers with contracts"
dont know to much about this but I guess thats why alot of indie games are coming to the switch and steam more so then ever.

4. "PSnow prices"
never paying for psnow already own alot of these games already im not paying for ps now to play games i already own its True BC or nothing for me.

5."Closing multiple studios despite those studios not losing a lot of money"
Moronic the fact that they shut down Evolution and liverpool is saddening and there just some of the few that got the axe. I would of shut bend down before I touched zipper interactive.

6."Weakest streaming platform compared to competitors (Stadis etc.) "
streaming games sucks in gerneal I wish no company bothered with it.

7. "Purposely locking the built in PS2 emulator in the PS4 behind a pay wall"
BS and the fact that it didnt take hackers long to find it is even more sad.

8."Controlling some Japanese retail release dates in the west."
always has been a thing unless sony is the one that gives these studios no choice in the matter.

9."Removing digital codes from offline and online retailers"
pointless on sonys behalf imagine if the only place you could buy a itunes giftcard from was apple.

10."Rejecting features from other companies which would be good for gamers. (EA Access etc.)"
no a fan of subscription services but you can get EA games for pennies on the dollar if you wait 2 or month after they launch.


11. "Throwing Vita owners under the bus less than 2 years after release"
probably one of the most recent blunders a console company has made besides sega with the master system. I solely blame the US branch for vita's failure state side the japan branched offered way better support for everyone from the consumers to the devs which is why the vita still got games over there for so long.

12."Complacency"
happens to every company


13."Not helping release original games unless they take control of the IP in many cases."
lazyness to the max.


14."Ignoring for 5 years of constant complaints from their loyal customers to improve thumbstick durability"
1st Gen ps4 controller were very cheaply made they still are

15."Dismissive PSN customer service."
You might as well not even bother calling sony for playstation text support in terms of current companies support they are the worst next to the cable companies you will end up sitting on the line for hours.

there alot of stuff about current sony i dislike thankyfully for most of these problems you can just shop around for solutions between xbox,pc and nintendo. Ill get a ps5 when persona 6 gets announced or teased GT7 would be another
 
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