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Will R&C: Rift Apart PC need a SSD to run? PLACE YOUR BETS
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rodrigolfp
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Examples? So far, I only "needed" for Star Citizen.
Kumomeme
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lot of game has SSD in recomended requirement.
Cyberpunk 2077 devs also starting to phasing out HDD in favour of SSD.
rodrigolfp
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I think you are confusing "requirement" with "recommended". CP2077 works with HDD.
not the upcoming dlc
Hoddi
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Rage offered CUDA for handling the Megatexture > GPU texture transcoding way back in 2011.GPU Hardware decompression??
The PS5 doesnt use its GPU to do decompression so how could that possibly be PS5 tech when the PS5 doesnt do it?
The PS5 has a dedicated kraken hardware unit for decompression.
And GPU de/compression has been a thing on PC for years, Sony didnt invent it......game devs just didnt bother with it and MS giving us an API for easy implementation is whats driving (hopefully) more devs to actually use it.
nvComp was released before the PS5 came out.
And thats just one example of a GPU de/compression algorithm.
I could keep going but I know you have some counterpoint which proves its all because of the PS5 that Microsoft developed DirectStorage (which was in development before the PS5) and King Cerny is the reason engineers figured CUDA is good for all these cool things, what if we used it for de/compression.
By extension shouldnt any GPU be capable of GPU de/compression......nooooo not until the PS5 does it, then our monkey brains will figure it out.
rodrigolfp
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lol it’s coming in two months.
person you quoted also says “starting to phase out”
rodrigolfp
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Ok, but CP2077 =/= CP2077 Phantom Liberty.
post also doesn’t mention CP2077 you do.
it says “CP2077 devs starting to phase out hdd” which is a fact
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Post stated "lot of game HAS". Only CP 2077 is out, so...
lol have fun with the goalpost stuck to your ass
CitizenKratos
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The bolded would make this is a pointless comparison for any normal reason. Asset quality is vey key. Could it have run on a PS4? That would be a reasonable comparison.
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rodrigolfp
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Have fun playing games from the future.
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Kumomeme
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pc requirement usually come with two tier. minimum and recomended.
Cyberpunk 2077 will drop HDD support in favour of SSD when Phantom Liberty release later
they release this statement on the official site.
UPDATE TO PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
As we kick off the pre-orders for Phantom Liberty, we want to update our current system requirements to ensure that players have a better understanding of what will be needed to run Cyberpunk 2077
www.cyberpunk.net
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Drop for the base game? They can't do that. People already bought the game based on the minimum specs on the launch. Imagine the shit storm if a game that someone bought and run on a HDD stops working on HDDs. Unless they don't force the update.pc requirement come with two tier. minimum and recomended.
Cyberpunk 2077 will drop HDD support in favour of SSD when Phantom Liberty release later
they release this statement on the official site.
UPDATE TO PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
As we kick off the pre-orders for Phantom Liberty, we want to update our current system requirements to ensure that players have a better understanding of what will be needed to run Cyberpunk 2077
Buggy Loop
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All 3 upscalers present
Kudos
Take note for Starfield fuckers
Kudos
Take note for Starfield fuckers
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Kumomeme
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it should still continue to work but future update wont be tested on HDD. so my understanding is there perhaps a risk of suffer more performance drop or they wont bother to any ingame complaint regarding to HDD.
Starfield's pc requirement on Steam also mention "Additional Notes: SSD Required" on both minimum and recomended specs.
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01011001
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that is almost certainly exactly what happens in Ratchet as well, every other way would be needlessly complicated.
I mentioned this planet in a post. the fact is that you can only switch at predetermined spots, which would allow the devs to pre-load things while you approach, and to have full control over what is in you immediate vicinity before and after the switch, which gives them the opportunity to manage assets for easy/fast loading.
we have to wait and see about the settings. nowhere in that spec sheet does it say that you have to play on low settings if you use an HDD, it is simply listed as the minimum.
and we also don't know how the lowest settings look
what if they still look really good?and the only setting affected by I/O speeds is texture resolution... so basically you can set everything else to the absolute max for sure, the only question is how far you can push textures on an HDD until it becomes an issue
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Guilty_AI
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This is a moot point now that we know the minimum specs. We shall wait for benchmarks.
Black_Stride
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No, its only because of the PS5 that we GPU hardware decompression on PC.
Hahaha Ill work on those beers.
Kinda a different story with FF7R, the base game was always a PS4 game and UE4 isnt exactly known for taking advantage of current gen tech.....hell on PC its still thread limited engine (unless devs reallyt work hard) as if everyone doesnt have 6 cores 12 threads or more these days.
Youll find Unreal games parking themselves on like cores threads and letting your CPU get bored while the framerate tanks.
Rift Apart was always a PS5 game, with DirectStorage implemented it should be relatively easy for anyone with a decent rig to power through......I say this knowing we have had a bunch of really bad PC ports lately......lets hope this isnt one of them.
CitizenKratos
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Nope. We need to know asset quality and what specs are needed to match ps5 settings. Otherwise it’s a pointless criteria bringing up minimum specs.
schaft0620
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They are moving the loads to RAM, look at the RAM requirements.
It's what they did with Returnal.
Anyone who tries to play this game on an HDD is being a hot take diva who has no idea how any of this works.
It's what they did with Returnal.
Anyone who tries to play this game on an HDD is being a hot take diva who has no idea how any of this works.
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Guilty_AI
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The point is seeing how essential a SSD truly is to the game. Minimum settings is still a configuration deemed acceptable by the developers, but we still should wait for the release to reach proper conclusions. The game will run on a hdd as we already know but we dont know if the transitions, its supposed SSD-essential mechanical design, will suffer from it greatly, mildly or won't.
Either way, theres nothing on the line here, no need to get worked up about it. Its not like i can stop you from drawing your own conclusions if my set criteria doesn't satisfy you.
Guilty_AI
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The RAM requirements are fairly standard for modern games. 8gb for minimum, 16gb for most recommended settings, 32gb for the maximum ultra settings.
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schaft0620
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Do you mean video RAM?
Kataploom
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Also way more durable, any kind of vibrating while moving your computer for whatever reason can send your HDD with Kaiosama suddenly... That's the reason why I don't consider them anymore, not even for cold storage, SATA SSD are the new cheaper option and they're way more reliable.
asdasdasdbb
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I just tested it. When hitting the crystal there's a transition effect (?) which hides the loading. It's very subtle on PS5 but I suppose they could lengthen it on the PC version if needed.
I doubt they would change how it works much.
Guilty_AI
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No, this is just RAM. VRAM requirements aren't high either though, with most of the highest settings requiring 8gb, medium-lower settings from 6gb to 4gb. Didn't you see the specs sheet they released?
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Bojji
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They can store whole level in memory (with 2 layouts). I think they do that in PS5 version...
schaft0620
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Yeah for the fast loads they want 16GB.
xellos2099alpha
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I remember Titanfall 2 and Dishonor 2 both have a limited kind of switch portal mechanic they run perfecrly fine on hhd
If I'm not mistaken,Titanfall level switch is just a reskin of the same level/layout.
Pimpbaa
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Isn’t this kinda pointless? Every PC gamer with a decent PC has a SSD. At the very least they are using SATA SSDs. Unless they have some horribly outdated PC that runs games worse than current gen consoles and they refuse to update the one thing that helps so god damn much with even just basic Windows stuff. I mean I had an outdated PC, but I still got a SATA SSD in it way back in 2013-2014. It’s not like anyone is going to be playing this off a hard drive other than to just see if it can do it or not.
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Guilty_AI
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You mean for the ultra maximum settings at 4k 60 fps with even more ray tracing settings than the ps5 version. Yeah, they want a powerful card for that indeed.
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ArtHands
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Its not that PC gamers doesn't have a SSD nowadays. Its just that some folks proclaim this game is impossible without (PS5's) SSD or something. And now we have proper evidence that it works even on an ordinary SSD and a HDD.
Pimpbaa
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Considering people tested out playing the game on the Xbox Series X SSD (which is far below Sony’s recommended speed) in the PS5’s SSD slot it’s not that surprising. Not surprising it runs on an ordinary SSD, surprising it runs on a HDD. Wonder what it would take to actually max out the throughput of the PS5’s SSD + Hardware decompression.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I am not talking about you. I am talking about the folks out there who claim it wouldn't run without a PS5 SSD previously.
Md Ray
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You doubt Nixxes? The guys & gals responsible for ports like Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the TR, Spider-Man...
Mr Moose
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To be fair to Insomniac, they were talking about PS4 and not PC with DirectStorage 1.2 (I wonder if this can be turned on and off?). PS4 Spider-Man has loading screens in sections where PS5 does not.
We'll have to wait and see how well it actually runs with a HDD.
I want to see how well it runs with the minimum spec'd PC (not a GPU with 16+GB VRAM).
Not long to go now until we find out.
asdasdasdbb
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There's a later level which also has the crystal mechanic where I noticed the world is obscured an extra fraction of a second as it loads it in. Demons Souls Remake does this too from time to time.
I imagine to get an experience comparable to the PS5 version you will need a 8+ GB GPU plus a reasonably fast SSD.
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