This is because Sony decided that all PS5 software can assume the user has a DualSense. This is a move by Sony to "shoehorn" the controller into PS5 games. i.e. making it more likely that devs actually take advantage of it.
There’s no physical reason for any controller they’ve released to not be compatible. DS3 too.
a similar situation. Again, DS3 doesn’t work on PS4 but I don’t think anyone cared. The 360 controllers don’t work on series. Why not? Its almost identical and uses the same wireless doesnt it? It’s an industry wide practice and there’s precedent.
How is it that naive but saying they’re only doing it to charge for new controllers not considered ridiculous? Especially since they also included Tempest in the controller and Cerny made a point of mentioning wanting everyone to be able to utilize it with their own headphones. That’s why there’s also a mic and mute button on each controller. They want these features used by as many people as possible.
Same logic. They’re $70. The DS4 was $59.99 or $64.99 msrp and you bought a house full.
you needed them to tell you this? It’s been this way for decades. Doesnt matter when it was said.
well, then this industry wide practice sucks dick.
Plenty of them do. There’s always gonna be something.
Aaannd, we're done here.
Done with believing Sony actually thinks blocking a last-gen controller encourages new feature usage?
I mean, they have a history of this, yes? Along with Nintendo more or less as well. And MSFT until the XSX.
Probably because things like haptics and adaptive triggers aren't supported by the DS4. A game that expects the controller to have certain features could probably break if the controller being used does not have those features. Unless we're expecting developers to also include support for older controllers in their games.
Ah, I think they did it well during the Wii days. It was such a blessing that you could just plug in a Gamecube-Controller to play Mario Kart Wii for example, especially if you had friends around. You didn't have to buy 4 Wii-Motes.
I don’t disagree.
I have. It’s not directly from a quote. It’s just what I think. It’s a more uniform approach that they know can be utilized. There’s no way someone using a DS4 will. There are a lot of new features. Historically, these types of features are usually met with skepticism.
This I don’t agree with. Like I said, they are allowing all licensed PS4 controllers to work on PS5. So if you bought a $500 racing wheel you can still use it. Sony would get a nice chunk off that sale by forcing a new one. Of course money has something to do with it. I don’t agree it’s the main reason.
Yes and no. You could just turn off the features. But then we’re back to square one of them not being utilized. So the DS4 being used would guarantee someone not using any of the new features.
I was just responding to your comment of features being supported simply because they are there. I wish that were true.
And i think it’s exactly the same controller going back 10 years. Not much of a goodwill gesture.
I used wheels that time but it’s all peripherals that aren’t DualShock-like. They don’t or wouldn’t use the features other than tempest which could be possible over USB if the peripheral has a headphone port. So, something like the Astro c40 doesn’t work on PS5 games and that was a $160 controller. This is what they said:
..and then there would be no intencive for devs to support the new features of the DualSense. it really is a nobrainer why Sony did what they did. The only reason why the last gen. Xbox controllers also works on the series, is because there really isn't any reasons why not since they are the same but a small difference in shape & form.
Yes.. we get it.. you didn't have to spell it out for us, your other 20 pots were rather obvious
Ofcourse it makes sense.. This is Sony's way of enforcing devs taking advantage of the the new features of the DualSense.. I'm surprised you of all people can't see that. Wheter that's a good or bad move is a complete other discussion.
A garbage trigger effect that no one uses?
That's your opinion and beside the point of what Sony is trying to do here...
You seemed to have missed the part where they aren't forcing them lol
Just a tad over the top wouldn't you say?
Ofcourse they have to cater to people that don't want the features, but they are not the devs are they? What I mean is that iif Sony didn't enforce a DualSense, there wouldn't be the same incentive for devs for support it, since millions of DS4 owners could still play your game if you chose to not support it.
You know how tired I am of this bullshit ass explanation...
DeepEnigma
stated eloquently and with examples (from consoles’ history) why this is a big drama. Not that it is undesirable to use a DS4 controller on PS5 (which again it is a half truth as you can do that for the many PS4 games you can play on it, right?), but well it is console war ammo more than anything. If it were not for the kind of carbon copied arguments in some posters it might be less blatant, but it would still be obvious IMHO.
Maybe I got late to the party....but is it to ensure that next games by other developers are also making games wih thse features?“Anti consumer and greedy!!!! Why don’t they let me turn off a feature I do not like”
“Greedy and anti consumer! They do not care about the DS features, otherwise they would not allow these features to be turned off”.
Again,
