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[NeoIkaruGAF]

How did it go again? “Go watch porn if you want to rub one out!”, iirc.

I guess there’s some tentacle games to be found if you really look for them.

 

[Danjin44]

If I can see penises in an M-rated game, I should be allowed to see vaginas as well.

You can see that in games like Cyberpunk 2077.

 

[TheMan]

I have to wonder if Sony and MS have policies that prohibit those games from being published on their platforms. I really can’t see any other reason why it hasn’t been done. These games do exist. They’re usually not very fun or good as games but they exist

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

Don't think so, even games that are literally psychopath simulator like Blood Trail VR are not rated AO (probably is not rated at all), but I don't see how gameplay could be affected. I'm curious to know what ND could have put of more "offensive" in TLOU to make it AO?

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

You can see that in games like Cyberpunk 2077.

Bruh barely

Steam has a bunch of them. Including this NSFW classic.

nah thats just a game you’re into. I’m talking about well known established games already. Games like Grounded need to be AO or M for mature. Smite should be AO so i can buy an Aphrodite skin with titties out.

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

There are plenty of games out there that have nudity as well as adult content and themes. If you are looking for some kinda fetish porn game, those exist as well.

Noooo i want games i already play to have it but without MODS. Im saying in general The Female body shouldnt be so demonized

Those games being Smite, Call of duty. Think about this, its women in call of duty but no physic that allow me to blow her titty off

 

[Killer8]

The Callisto Protocol devs have said they are not releasing the game in Japan because they don't want to compromise their vision. That's admirable.

But I wonder if they'd take the same stand if the ESRB or PEGI denied the game too. Something tells me with enough pressure, they'd cave like any other company.

 

[Danjin44]

Bruh barely

Cyberpunk is as far it goes without turning in to porn which I don’t think everyone wants that and it doesn’t add anything to the game other than limit the audience.

 

[kapshin]

Because stores won't carry them.

2K should be rated NO

 

[Pallas]

Oops

 

[Pallas]

What would be in an AO game that is not in an M game that would make it "serious?" Explicit sex? That adds literally nothing to a game.

Probably explicit sex, constant nudity, extreme gore. Most retails won’t sell these games, and there would be bad backlash if consoles had these up digitally on their stores. A lot of concerned parents.

PC would be the only place to play them and they would probably be indie games. im not sure if Steam has AO titles but they do carry adult oriented games, like your explicit hentai visual novels.

 

[Moses85]

 

[dreamcastluvr]

How did it go again? “Go watch porn if you want to rub one out!”, iirc.

I guess there’s some tentacle games to be found if you really look for them.

Except it's not always about "rubbing one out." One might as well ask, "Why watch hentai when you can watch the real thing in live-action porn?" As well as the fact that watching porn is just that; passive.

People like the OP who ask this question are obviously intrigued by the additional artistic imagination and interactivity that AO gaming could offer if fully explored.

But as long as our society has this weird, pretentious, puritanical attitude about adult entertainment, and our hypocritical politicians decry adult content in gaming (all the while indulging in corrupt behavior themselves) and virtue-signaling gaming companies continue to focus on catering to "modern sensitivities" to avoid the wrath of the hypersensitive, self-righteous Twitter mob, I don't think we're ever going to see any AAA AO games anytime soon.

 

[Fredrik]

Noooo i want games i already play to have it but without MODS. Im saying in general The Female body shouldnt be so demonized

Tbh it’s a bit odd. People can handle and demand all kinds of sickening violence and gore and decapitations but if they see bouncing breasts or God forbid nudity it’s like they’re becoming this innocent child that instantly squirm in their seat in embarassment over what they’ve witnessed.
In the end it’s all polygons, it’s not real. And if it’s too much with sexy characters then why isn’t it too much with gore?

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Except it's not always about "rubbing one out." One might as well ask, "Why watch hentai when you can watch the real thing in live-action porn?" As well as the fact that watching porn is just that; passive.

People like the OP who ask this question are obviously intrigued by the additional artistic imagination and interactivity that AO gaming could offer if fully explored.

But as long as our society has this weird, pretentious, puritanical attitude about adult entertainment, and our hypocritical politicians decry adult content in gaming (all the while indulging in corrupt behavior themselves) and virtue-signaling gaming companies continue to focus on catering to "modern sensitivities" to avoid the wrath of the hypersensitive, self-righteous Twitter mob, I don't think we're ever going to see any AAA AO games anytime soon.

I'm not sure what AO themes and imagery in a game could bring about gameplay and interactivity, but that's another matter entirely.

My comment was sarcastic. "Go watch porn instead" is the typical response when someone protests against censorship of very mild sexual imagery in games. Try crying censorship before the covering of a pair of exposed legs, or the reduction of a character's chest size, and you're guaranteed to receive a barrage of such replies.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I'm not sure what AO themes and imagery in a game could bring about gameplay and interactivity,

i can think of some AO themed interactivity ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[dreamcastluvr]

I'm not sure what AO themes and imagery in a game could bring about gameplay and interactivity, but that's another matter entirely.

There are oodles of ideas out there. For example, imagine the possibilities of Urotsukidoji: The Game!

My comment was sarcastic. "Go watch porn instead" is the typical response when someone protests against censorship of very mild sexual imagery in games. Try crying censorship before the covering of a pair of exposed legs, or the reduction of a character's chest size, and you're guaranteed to receive a barrage of such replies.

Oh yes, I realize that you were just echoing the tired cliché response with tongue in cheek rather than endorsing the sentiment. I simply figured I would use your comment as a springboard to my general reply to the thread.

Tbh it’s a bit odd. People can handle and demand all kinds of sickening violence and gore and decapitations but if they see bouncing breasts or God forbid nudity it’s like they’re becoming this innocent child that instantly squirm in their seat in embarassment over what they’ve witnessed.
In the end it’s all polygons, it’s not real. And if it’s too much with sexy characters then why isn’t it too much with gore?

Yes; in the 90's it was religious leaders, politicians, and parental groups that were out to censor both sex and violence in games. Nowadays, it's third wave feminists with gender studies degrees who peddle their flawed ideas of how sexualizing females is supposedly misogynistic (except in their hypocritical universe, if it's a morbidly obese or transgender woman it's labeled as "empowerment").
Oh well, at least we get our ultraviolence.

 

[Thaedolus]

It blows my mind the level of depraved violence that’s fine for M rated games, but explicit sexy time is a no no…I know that point has been made a million times with regard to games and movies but it’s still wild.

I’d be totally done for hornier games if it somehow adds to the game. Not really interested in some kind of straight up bukkake simulator 9000 or anything but if someone wanted to handle adult subject matter in a serious way that is justified, go for it.

 

[hemo memo]

Because it is a business not “art” as you might be fooled to ridiculously believe.

 

[Icymanipulator]

I guess you’d really only want AO in your game if you wanted to put in extreme and/or graphic sex, since violence seems to be ok. So the question is what would graphic sex add to a game that you couldn’t get from just watching pornography?

 

[dreamcastluvr]

Because it is a business not “art” as you might be fooled to ridiculously believe.

Art *is* business. Even the classical masters such as DaVinci, Michelangelo, Rembrandt, and Picasso were commissioned for their work, and were also regularly censored and banned by the moral police of their times. Surviving works that were once considered as "depraved" and "sacrilegious" go for several millions these days.

And, yes, despite what Roger Ebert told you, video games are indeed art. The developers being the masters, publishers being the commissioners, and the social media mob being the modern day moral police.

 

[hemo memo]

Art *is* business. Even the classical masters such as DaVinci, Michelangelo, Rembrandt, and Picasso were commissioned for their work, and were also regularly censored and banned by the moral police of their times. Surviving works that were once considered as "depraved" and "sacrilegious" go for several millions these days.

And, yes, despite what Roger Ebert told you, video games are indeed art. The developers being the masters, publishers being the commissioners, and the social media mob being the modern day moral police.

They didn’t start their painting thinking oh man this thing must sell for millions. That’s the difference.

 

[Vexed Dad]

No. I just don't like bullies, and you essentially came in as a passive-aggressive bully. I can't fathom a grown man being so petty he would have to voice his opinion to belittle others, but here we are.

lol its an internet forum full f people you dont know.
Who the f#*k feels bullied on an internet forum unless your eleven.

Honestly, Neogaf use to be cool.

 

[dreamcastluvr]

They didn’t start their painting thinking oh man this thing must sell for millions. That’s the difference.

That's literally how they made their livings: either being commissioned or by selling. When Michelangelo started painting the Sistine Chapel, he knew he was making bank. Probably not millions when adjusted for inflation, but like most talented artists, he did pretty well financially for his time.

Now, to your point, I agree there are non-artistic aspects in the gaming industry, such as the business models that gaming companies have to make sure they turn a profit to appease their shareholders. But that falls squarely into the business realm of the ones who are paying the artists (ie commissioners) to create their work. Without the art, their business models are worthless.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

On one hand I say, yes, the gaming industry needs its Deadpool to enable studios/investors to put real bank behind mature titles.

The other hand looks at DOOM 2016/eternal and thinks we've mostly got our Deadpool moment evolving since Wolfenstein. Modding puts gaming firmly into M/AO/R categories e.g. Duke stripper mods, DOOM nudes, strip poker sims, a ton of anime/Japanese titles etc. If you're talking about AAA mainstream it's tough to look past recent titles like Cyberpunk 2077, Scorn or Hellblade II etc. Obviously, Nintendo falls way behind in this genre, for good reasons. Sony generally are quite accepting to let devs/publishers put out what they want of any rating, especially when you consider TLoU, Heavy Rain, Catherine etc. PC is probably the least restrictive and more mature target audience though.

 

[Metnut]

GTA5, TLOU, Yakuza Series and Cyberpunk all seem “adult” enough for my 40 year old ass. What else are you really looking for?

I remember back in the day when even games like FF4 got censored.

 

[Fredrik]

Oh well, at least we get our ultraviolence.

I liked ultra violence when I was like 10-14, it was fun, cool and exciting. At 46 I don’t see what it adds besides a problem to play in the living room when the family is around. (Edit) But fair enough it could be worse, it’s not like I want only non-violent kid games, and some games deal with violence in a less problematic way with gore off options and/or non-human enemies. My kids loved seeing me play Returnal. Sadly they won’t even know GoW Ragnarök exist. It is what it is.

 

[Rest]

There's no money in it.

 

[crackajack]

Speak with your wallet.

eg. buy the AO games on Steam if anything there meets your wishes to some degree. I played Lust for Darkness this year and while it was far from being actually good. Sexually explicit themes in horror (or anything) should be possible, especially if gore already is. Either I am 18 or whatever your mature legal age is or I am not.

In an all digital future where store outlets are becoming obsolet the console plattforms might drop their weird age rules and go away from the prudish but violence is good nonsense Murica kind of dictates to the world as the baseline.

 

[Kurimao]

I'd buy DLC w/ AO content.

 

[The_Mike]

 

[ReBurn]

Speak with your wallet.

eg. buy the AO games on Steam if anything there meets your wishes to some degree. I played Lust for Darkness this year and while it was far from being actually good. Sexually explicit themes in horror (or anything) should be possible, especially if gore already is. Either I am 18 or whatever your mature legal age is or I am not.

In an all digital future where store outlets are becoming obsolet the console plattforms might drop their weird age rules and go away from the prudish but violence is good nonsense Murica kind of dictates to the world as the baseline.

The reason AO games aren't mainstream is that people do speak with their wallets and by and large this is not content that most people want to pay for. It has nothing to do with an all digital future. Hardly anyone wanted to pay for it when it was all physical.

 

[Guilty_AI]

tbf i wouldn't kill dogs back then either

 

[sympathytaste]

You sure as hell would not want Hillary Clinton coming back and trying to ban violent video games like her pathetic attempt at trying to ban GTA San Andreas because of Hot Coffee.

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

#bringbackKratossexscenes Freya is the Goddess of sex right

 

[SuperSaiyanWithDreads]

You sure as hell would not want Hillary Clinton coming back and trying to ban violent video games like her pathetic attempt at trying to ban GTA San Andreas because of Hot Coffee.

Pathetic

tbf i wouldn't kill dogs back then either

My K9 Unit back in black ops 2 and black ops 4 sure as hell got shot a lot

Sales. Sales. Sales.

antiadult antiadult antiadult

This reads like it was written by a teenager.

your name is touchfuzzy , so fuck you touchfuzzy.

Honestly I'm with you, I never really understood complaints around the lack of gore. I don't need to see a head realistically and meticulously split open to understand that I just landed a headshot.


It adds explicit sex. There is plenty of sex, even fairly graphic sex, in M games. All it would change is making it actual porn. Which, don't get me wrong I love a good ecchi VN but that is like its own genre.

I get what you are saying but like with most things, less is usually more. The implication can be more powerful than the actual thing.

Its about the implication into making it seem normal like how it suppose to be

 

[crackajack]

The reason AO games aren't mainstream is that people do speak with their wallets and by and large this is not content that most people want to pay for. It has nothing to do with an all digital future. Hardly anyone wanted to pay for it when it was all physical.

The entire AO section on steam exists because there is some demand. Of course it could not be mainstream if it did not really exist before and the quality is still questionable at best.

Will it become huge in actual gaming? I don't know. But porn is big, why wouldn't there be much more demand once the quality is evolving? We already get more spicy content than before, but maybe it will just be its own section like porn videos are to movies.
VR porn could be big, since the 360 videos are of course not really 6dof and you are quite limited, but actual rendered babes and dicks would not have that. Porn stories games, qte porn games, explicit Kratos.
Any way, I doubt it can't grow significantly.

All digital will remove the requirement for console platforms to conform to Walmart and whatnot. The question is once that lame excuse is removed, will one of them be bold enough to allow 18+ porn nudity beside 18+ violence. Having M parallel to AO is like many age restrictions in various countries crazy and a relict.