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[Starfield]

Yes the demo of Halo Infinite looked rough, I won't deny that...however to say that 343i are "untalented hacks" is a very poor thing to say.
For the ones who have been paying close attention to the development of the Halo Master Chief Collection for PC (and console) its just amazing what they have done since the launch of Halo Reach on PC.

They are constantly bringing out GREAT upgrades to imo the best value package that you can get on Steam currently. They are just doing so much stuff for this game, its amazing. They're not just adding the old content, they are deliberatily bringing a NEW experience to the way these old games were played.

From never seen FOV sliders in a Halo game to higher refresh rates right up to whole new content updates (Halo Reach: massive amounts of new forge objects and vehicles to use, Halo CE: multiplayer weapon and vehicle skins along with more armour customizations, Halo 3: new forge objects, a new skull to use in the campaign where you have a jet pack, the ability to disable certain sounds in campaign to...for example play the story without music ---> yes, thats horrible but it shines a new light on certain ingame cutscenes, its really weird).

...and there's more!

In the next update, the one where ODST is coming out they also going to bring ODST's exclusive weapons, like the pistol or the silenced SMG to Halo 3: MP!

along with a new season to unlock Skins for Halo 3 weapons (you can turn them off in settings if you don't like them btw).

It's not just that. They are also trying to fix old bugs that Bungie left behind, like the poor hit registration of Halo 3.


I know this doesn't really have much to do with Halo Infinite but if they are giving the same respect and determination towards Infinite like they are doing for MCC then I have no doubt that this is gonna be an amazing Halo experience for the years to come!

What do you think?

 

[Kamina]

This thread wont go as you may expect

Edit: some mod please change OP’s name to Halo
Edit2: or maybe change his name to Hodor?

 

[hyperbertha]

Releasing at a sorry state and then fixing isn't the way to go. And how much it can be improved depends on how good of a base it has. Look at anthem.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Oh so they are talented because they took years to fix a broken mess of a launch.

Ok.

 

[deriks]

I think that if you say "the game looked rough" and then asks for sympathy for them is weird. They got the money and stuff and they didn't delivered the demo we wanted. It's a next gen bummer

 

[Starfield]

Releasing at a sorry state and then fixing isn't the way to go. And how much it can be improved depends on how good of a base it has. Look at anthem.

Why was it at a sorry state? The only problem it had was the audio issues in the campaign of Halo Reach. Everything else ran smooth and fine.

I'm not talking about the initial release of MCC in 2014. I am talking about the PC version.

 

[mcjmetroid]

Yes they did work.. eventually.

With hall infinite they have to get the basics right at launch. You cannot have the " I'll add it later".

Some games can get away with it but for the launch game if a console. It needs to deliver immediately or it'll sink not only the game but the whole console in my opinion.

 

[Exoil]

What do you think?

That Microsoft should've kept Bungie..

 

[Starfield]

damn, I always forget that the majority of people here are consoleros...

 

[hyperbertha]

Why was it at a sorry state? The only problem it had was the audio issues in the campaign of Halo Reach. Everything else ran smooth and fine.

I'm not talking about the initial release of MCC in 2014. I am talking about the PC version.

You serious? Just how much slack are you willing to cut them exactly?

 

[Kev Kev]

This thread wont go as you may expect

Edit: some mod please change OP’s name to Halo

i always pronounced OPs name as "hey-dough", like a little kid trying to say halo but can't pronounce his L's properly

 

[FunkMiller]

I don't really know what to say. We all saw the Halo demo.

 

[Starfield]

You serious? Just how much slack are you willing to cut them exactly?

Dude. I couldn't give a shit about the MCC Xbox version. I've played it when it came out and the singleplayer was fine.

The PC release was smooth af and I was expecting them to fuck up the controls with kb/m big time, but they actually delivered and it felt like a PC shooter sooo??

 

[Kev Kev]

I don't really know what to say. We all saw the Halo demo.

oh you'll find something to say, i'm sure...

 

[Tulipanzo]

"343i isn't incompetent, they fixed MCC after launching it broken" is a pretty weak take

 

[Thugnificient]

Dude. I couldn't give a shit about the MCC Xbox version. I've played it when it came out and the singleplayer was fine.

The PC release was smooth af and I was expecting them to fuck up the controls with kb/m big time, but they actually delivered and it felt like a PC shooter sooo??

So 343 are fine if we ignore their mistakes?

I am perfect. Thanks OP.

 

[GymWolf]

I didn't enjoyed both halo 4 and 5, mc collection was a joke before heavy patching and the best thing that come out from infinite was a fucking brute meme...

So yeah, if not untalented, they sure are mediocre for my tastes.

 

[Starfield]

I don't really know what to say. We all saw the Halo demo.

Yeah...I've already adressed that I wasn't impressed with the visuals either, but I'm not a graphics whore, atleast not for games where I focus on the gameplay.

I have a decent PC but play games like csgo on 1280x720 rez with everything on low, along with a 240hz monitor, mechanical keyboard and low sensitivity to get the small % advantage that sometimes makes a big difference.

There's games for me where I wanna have the best fidelity possible (Metro: Exodus as an example) and theres games where I wanna have great performance (csgo, Halo, etc..)

 

[SatansReverence]

I am looking at the entire picture.

The 'i' doesn't stand for industries, it stands for incompetence.

 

[Apocryphon]

Untalented? No, not at all, they worked some real magic visually with Halo 4...

Guilty of mismanaging the Halo IP? Yeah.

 

[MCplayer]

You are joking right? 343 a literally just a bunh of contrators...

 

[turtlepowa]

damn, I always forget that the majority of people here are Sony consoleros...

Fixed it for you.

 

[hemo memo]

That Microsoft should've kept Bungie..

Destiny was a mess at the start from every angle. It was saved only by its gameplay. If 343 nailed the gameplay with infinite then that’s what matters.

 

[nush]

Why was it at a sorry state? The only problem it had was the audio issues in the campaign of Halo Reach. Everything else ran smooth and fine.

I'm not talking about the initial release of MCC in 2014. I am talking about the PC version.

343i are a great developer for adding some skins and guns to a 6 year old game and some basic PC centric QOL features?

Your bar for a great developer is very very low.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

343i are a great developer for adding some skins and guns to a 6 year old game and some basic PC centric QOL features?

Your bar for a great developer is very very low.

I don't think you understand the complexity of something like Halo MCC

 

[Skifi28]

I don't think you understand the complexity of something like Halo MCC

I don't think the devs did either.

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

343 isnt doing these thing with MCC... its external studios like Saber doing that work...

 

[Drewpee]

This thread wont go as you may expect

Edit: some mod please change OP’s name to Halo

I've noticed this comment in too many Halo threads. You set the thread up for failure with this comment because it set the tone of responses. Too many people will just copy your opinion using their own words because noone likes to think for themselves. I see the behavior on here and sites like Facebook constantly.

You guys should be glad I am not on the Xbox team, I would shill this site non stop lol the hatred for anything Xbox is ridiculous these days.

 

[nush]

I don't think you understand the complexity of something like Halo MCC

 

[Kerotan]

At present I'd put Halo on par with Anthem. The real talent is at bungie and luckily for you expect fans D2 is available with years more of expansions on the way.

 

[LazyParrot]

OP is right. If you ignore all the times they've fucked up, they're actually quite competent.

 

[nush]

I've noticed this comment in too many Halo threads. You set the thread up for failure

let me demonstrate to you as someone who can think for themselves how the OP set up this thread for failure...

So we're going to look at the entire picture? Right?

No, no not the entire history, just the PC version.

I'm going to ignore the the console launch version while I look at the "Entire picture".

The entire picture DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CONSOLE VERSIONS!!ONE1. (Also single player was buggy as fuck and crashed regularly even after multiple updates)

 

[Hobbygaming]

I don't think the devs did either.

 

[Graciaus]

Halo 4 sucks, halo 5 sucks and Mcc was unplayable for years. Personally think they ruined Reach by getting rid of bloom. 343 has to be one of the worst developers of all time.

 

[Starfield]

let me demonstrate to you as someone who can think for themselves how the OP set up this thread for failure...

So we're going to look at the entire picture? Right?

No, no not the entire history, just the PC version.

I'm going to ignore the the console launch version while I look at the "Entire picture".

The entire picture DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CONSOLE VERSIONS!!ONE1. (Also single player was buggy as fuck and crashed regularly even after multiple updates)

Who tf uses the white version of neogaf lol

also Idfk what you mean, the singpleplayer ran fine on xbox one but maybe im just not a big crybaby like some people are.

 

[Uiki]

You just listed the bare minimum features for a shooter in 2020.

343 realized this years too late and they are just playing catch up.

It's their fault, there's nothing to be praised here.

 

[hyperbertha]

Who tf uses the white version of neogaf lol

also Idfk what you mean, the singpleplayer ran fine on xbox one but maybe im just not a big crybaby like some people are.

Waste of time

 

[nush]

Who tf uses the white version of neogaf lol

Team light theme also say the same thing when I screencap in dark, but thanks for focusing on the content of the post.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Lmao

Nice thread OP

 

[Starfield]

Lmao

Nice thread OP

thanks

 

[VN1X]

Oh my god another Halo thread. We HaloGAF now bois!

EDIT: maybe we should segragate the Americans from the rest of us and create AmeriGAF so they can talk about Halo all day long while us sensible people discuss real quality games like Animal Crossing, Rogue Company and Hunt Showdown. Thanks.

 

[MadchesterManc]

Obviously the PC version of MCC has been pretty smooth considering the Xbox One version was effectively a beta for about a year with bugs & borderline broken multiplayer

 

[geordiemp]

How many actually work their and how many are contractors ? Who are 343 today ?

 

[Starfield]

How many actually work their and how many are contractors ? Who are 343 today ?

Why did you put a picture of all the female employees of 343 in your post?

 

[KonstructReborn]

Yes a very talented triple A development team. Being given the biggest budget ever to produce a game for the next gen but managed to produce an Xbox 360 title that runs in 4k.

Budget went to muh diversity I guess.

Stop lying to yourself dude. 343 is a damn mess of a development team that have no roots with Halo aside from the name. The series has been a lost cause for awhile.

MCC has like 6 or 7 studios under it's belt including 343. Who knows what specifics when to whom. If the ongoing framework is to be suggest 343 likely were the team that broke it. If they held the head of development on it then they can easily be blamed for the mismanagement poor communication on it.

 

[geordiemp]

Why did you put a picture of all the female employees of 343 in your post?

Just saved off GAF, do you have another one ?

 

[michaelius]

Hmm let's see I bough Halo MCC on Steam in November - it released on PC years after Xbox One version with 1 playable game out of 6 - now it's August and the whole collection isn't finished yet.

Technically at least they are good this time.

Original release in 2014 was a unprecedented mess

Halos 343 did on their own tend to be disliked by Halo fans on here and era from what I see.

Halo Infinite is mess few months before launch.

So yes everything points to 343 being software manufacture without much talent - they can get job painfully done if you give them time to fix their own mess but they don't have people to make new entries to Microsoft most important IP

Also Microsoft selling MCC for 40 euro is not related to 343 quality since they have not much to talk in that matter.
But yes it was deal so good even I jumped in when I rarelly buy any software day one

 

[DaGwaphics]

I think people looked at the entire picture. That was the problem...

Jokes aside, it could be a very fun game to play. I expect some kind of crazy multi-player, there has to be something that required the geometry to be the way it is.

 

[bucyou]

always fun to watch OP get dunked on for stupid takes

 

[the_master]

So they are updating some game ports that are not yet finished?

I am sure that 343i are full of talented peiple, like every major videogame studio, but the mcc is not an example of greatness.

They need to prove themselves as a studio with Infinite. I hope they do great, but so far the game needs one or 2 more years in