He worked a lot of time at MS. What makes you think he severed the ties?To tie people into their ecosystem that MS doesn't control. They see MS exerting more control over hardware with Win 11, and want to get ahead of that more. I bet they will make a stronger push with SteamOS overall with the launch of Steam Deck.
He worked a lot of time at MS. What makes you think he severed the ties?
Valve is making sure Steam Deck is priced differently from comparable PC ultrabooks hardware.Gabe Newell in an interview to IGN said that "Hitting Steam Deck Price Was 'Painful' but 'Critical'". That means they might be eating some of the costs to release their PC/console at 399, but at the same time, it's completely open and people can even install other stores on it.
Something seems wrong. If they're investing in a long term plan to increase the adoption of Steam, why would they make their platform open and allow people to replace the OS and install their competitor's stores?
Just for some context, in article Gabe also says “We’re doing this for the long haul. And there’s a lot of opportunity.”, so this is clearly a long term plan and they've been working on this for a long time.
What do you think is their master plan?
We can partly blame Newell for Windows 1.x, 2.x, 3.x, and Windows 95's Doom portNewell was one of the main producers for the first three (maybe four?) Windows OS's and he left on good terms, yea. The man was borne of Microsoft.
He worked a lot of time at MS. What makes you think he severed the ties?
Thing is, I don’t know any pc gamers dying for a portable device. Those that are have a Switch. Those that don’t, don’t wanna pay $399. I used to really get excited when I saw Valve try to shakeup the hardware market, but then I came to see that they drop everything within a year or two. Can’t wait for those 1 penny fire sale Steam Decks, just like the one penny Steam Controllers and 1 penny Steam Links. Remember all those?
Did you miss this stuff? Nobody said anything about severing ties.He worked a lot of time at MS. What makes you think he severed the ties?
To be fair they also pissed off Tim Sweeney with windows 8 and then have brought him back with the openness of the Hololens.Did you miss this stuff? Nobody said anything about severing ties.
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It comes down to a fundamental strategic decision.www.fool.comValve boss Gabe Newell calls Windows 8 a 'catastrophe'
Microsoft's system is going to be a catastrophe for everyone involved in the PC industry, says video game firm Valve's boss Gabe Newell.www.bbc.com
That is a LOT of people you are talking about there. And technically the device existing also brings more value to PC games in general.I struggle to see the point of the Steam deck beyond people that are already locked up to Steam and suddenly want to play PC on the go. Still, it is a cool piece of hardware that I would definitely buy if it was available in my region.
Yeah, but my point is that if you are mainly a PC gamer, it means it is OK for you to sit in front a PC and play. The portability isn't really the key driver here. Of course, there is a public for that... But I have doubts when it comes to the scale we are talking about.That is a LOT of people you are talking about there. And technically the device existing also brings more value to PC games in general.
As others have said many times, it allows them to not bother waiting for a Switch port and just run the PC version instead. And Valve will make sure the ideal setup to run these games would be on Steam, thus people would choose to buy and use steam games on the Deck even when they are not forced to.
Even PC gamers are forced to leave their desktops behind when they travel. Unless you think we litterally never leave the basement?Yeah, but my point is that if you are mainly a PC gamer, it means it is OK for you to sit in front a PC and play. The portability isn't really the key driver here. Of course, there is a public for that... But I have doubts when it comes to the scale we are talking about.
The Steamdeck threads had people running emulation as well. Remember all the "STEAMDECK RUNS SWITCH GAMES BETTER THAN THE SWITCH, DIE NINTENDO DIE" threads?I struggle to see the point of the Steam deck beyond people that are already locked up to Steam and suddenly want to play PC on the go. Still, it is a cool piece of hardware that I would definitely buy if it was available in my region.
Not sure why you are being defensive with this post… But anyway, what I am arguing about is that portability is not a decisive factor for most of its potential user base. Of course there are gamer laptops around but there is a reason why handheld/PCs hybrids aren’t that popular. It isn’t like Valve is the first testing this market.Even PC gamers are forced to leave their desktops behind when they travel. Unless you think we litterally never leave the basement?
Cost. Overwhelmingly, cost. They are a very neat tech that definitely has its niche, but the usefulness of said niche is not enough to offset the massive increase in cost they usually suffer compared to laptops and even tablets.there is a reason why handheld/PCs hybrids aren’t that popular.
Cost. Overwhelmingly, cost. They are a very neat tech that definitely has its niche, but the usefulness of said niche is not enough to offset the massive increase in cost they usually suffer compared to laptops and even tablets.
Valve eating some of the cost with their fat money pockets can definitely push the niche forward, maybe even far enough that mass-ordering components starts allowing for cost savings.
UMPCs, HandheldPC, all sorts of subnotebooks existed long before this, and their failing was always the same thing. They were far more expensive for the same performance compared to full-sized laptops. It doesn't matter what process it's made on, you can always make a better, more powerful, cheaper laptop, than you can make a UMPC or handheld. The extra bit of portability was not worth the extra expense, and that's why it was always a deadend business concept, that's why they never caught on with the larger, money-conscious crowd.Not only cost, but the idea of fitting something into a handheld device that could earn the approval of the larger PC crowd was impossible or a deadend business idea prior to the 7 nm , advanced features having SoC/APU they can now use. Packs in all the functionality with far lesser costs in power and heat.
Or more than a company whom has a meaningful adjacent revenue stream.And if it succeeds enough to start getting anywhere near mass production, the cost reductions from that may allow it to succeed even harder, and allow it to be made by more than just the one company with money to burn.