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[hariseldon]

The thing I think some of those defending modern films are missing is that while modern films may be technically stronger, they are also sterile.
In some ways it’s the same as gaming - in the 90s games were less consistent, some absolute shit got released but we also had a tonne of stone cold classics that defined their genres for decades to come. Now most games are technically competent, we just don’t see the kind of absolute train wreck anymore, but we’re missing the amazing creations outside of a few special works like Kingdom Come Deliverance. It’s all 7/10 games now. Films are the same. Technically very polished, undoubtedly very good cinematography, but the magic has mostly gone. There are exceptions like the wonderful Joker (though that is basically a 70s film released in the 10s) and Parasite, but it seems that there’s a lack of passion in the industry. I think in part it’s because now we have Disney owning everything big and then some tiny crappy indie studios and nothing in between, nothing mid-sized where the risk-taking or even fun little films that don’t cost a fortune and just tell a fun self-contained story comes from.

 

[Hudo]

 

[Greedings]

They were better. I’m too young to have nostalgia for 80s movies, but they’re substantially better than the crap there is now.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Yes. Simply because Hollywood was still ran by creative people up until the 90s, so natuarally there was more varied content. Also no interet. Meaning, it was very hard to predict for filmmakers what would be sucessfull or not, which is why more risky stuff was approved.

I'd also say this level of filmmaking was extended until the mid 00s, when quality suddenly started to drop signifcantly - and from then on it became worse every year. Not to be misunderstood, every now and then still amazing movies are being made but it's less original stuff every year.

 

[Hulk_Smash]

I don't know, I think movies are still great after 2000.

2001
Gladiator, Traffic, Erin Brockovich, Memento, The Devils Backbone, Amelie, Mulholland Drive, Dornie Darko, Artificial Intelligence, Shaolin Soccer, Training Day, A Perfect Mind, Oceans 11, Black Hawk Down, The Others, Zoolander, Kiss the Dragon.

2002
The Pianist, Minority Report, Secretary, One Hour Photo, Infernal Affairs, Catch Me if You Can, 28 Days Later, The Bourbe Identity, Panic Room, Changing Lanes, Punch Drunk Love, Spirited Away, Gangs of New York, Spider-Man, Blade 2.

2003
Monster, Mystic River, Lost in Translation, Kill Bill 1, X-Men 2, Finding Nemo, Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl, School of Rock, Elf, Oldboy, 21 Grams, Bad Boys 2, Paycheck.

2004
Team America, Anchorman, Spider-Man 2, Million Dollar Baby, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Kill Bill 2, The Life Aquatic, The Aviator, Collateral, Hellboy, National Treasure, Troy, The Terminal. Harold and Kumar go to White Castle

2005
Memories of Murder, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Batman Begins, Munich, King Kong, A History of Violence, Brick, The Island, Memoirs of a Geisha, Mr & Mrs Smith, The Descent.

2006
The Drparted, Pan's Labyrinth, The Fountain, Children of Men, The Prestige, Apocalypto, Letters from Iwo Jima, Little Miss Sunshine, Blood Diamond, Deja Vu, Hot Fuzz.

2007
The Assasination of Jesse James, There Will Be Blood, No Country for Old Men, Zodiac, The Bourne Ultimatem, Gone Baby Gone, Superbad, Ratatouille.

2008
Hellboy 2, Iron Man, The Dark Knight, Slumdog Millionaire, The Wrestler, Wall-e, Doubt, Frost/Nixon, Milk, Burn After Reading, Step Brothers, Cloverfield, Tropic Thunder, Gran Torino, Taken, The Hurt Locker, King Fu Panda, Pineapple Express, Let the Right One In, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas, Rambo, Changeling, Ip Man, Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay, Body of Lies, Speed Racer, Red Cliff

2009
Avatar, Mother, District 9, 500 Days of Summer, Up, Inglorious Basterds, Zombieland, Fantastic Mr Fox, The Blind Side, Coraline, Moon, State of Play, The Road, Drag Me To Hell, 9, Watchmen, Knowing,

2010
Shutter Island, Toy Story 3, Winter's Bone, 127 Hours, Black Swan, The Fighter, Inception, The Social Network, The King's Speech, The Town, Buried, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Insidious, Salt, The Book of Eli, How to Train Your Dragon, The Other Guys, The Expendables, Kick-Ass.

2011
The Help, Moneyball, The Descendants, Drive, The Artist, Fast Five, Bridesmaids, Shame, I Saw The Devil, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Warrior, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, We Need to Talk About Kevin, Adventures of Tintin, Super 8, Sucker Punch, In Time, Paul, The Raid.

2012
John Carter, Avengers, Moonrise Kingdom, Argo, Silver Linings Playbook, Zero Dark Thirty, Life of Pi, Django Unchained, Cloud Atlas, End of Watch, Flight, Prometheus, Dredd, Jack Reacher, Looper, Ted, Wolf Children, 21 Jump Street

2013
Gravity, Secret Life of Walter Mitty, Prisoners, Warm Bodies, The Conjuring, Saving Mr Banks, Iron Man 3, Captain Phillips, Under the Skin, Spring Breakers, American Hustle, The Wolf of Wall Street, Fast and Furious 6, Inside Llewyn Davis, Pacific Rim, Oblivion, Rush, Frozen.

2014
A Most Violent Year, The Rover, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Interstellar, Birdman, Whiplash, Guardians of the Galaxy, 22 Jump Street, Nightcrawler, Gone Girl, Boyhood, Chef, The Raid 2, The Lego Movie, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Edge of Tomorrow, The Equalizer, The Interview, Noah, Ex Machina, John Wick.

2015
The Revenant, Bridge of Spies, Joy, The End of the Tour, The Gift, It Follows, Mad Max: Fury Road, Creed, Room, Inside Out, Spotlight, Sicario, The Martian, Straight Outta Compton, Steve Jobs, Kingsman, Furious 7, Trainwreck, Crimson Peak, Ted 2.

2016
The Handmaiden, Don't Breathe, Hush, The Nice Guys, Arrival, The Lobster, The Witch, The Wailing, Swiss Army Man, Zootopia, Silence, La La Land, Deadpool, Doctor Strange, Passengers, The Founder, London Has Fallen, Hacksaw Ridge, 13 Hours, 10 Cloverfield Lane, The Accountant, Central Intelligence, Eddie the Eagle.

2017
Alien: Covenant, Lady Bird, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Okja, I Don't Feel at Home in this World Anymore, Dunkirk, Bladerunner 2049, War of the Planet of the Apes, Get Out, Colossal, IT, Split, Your Name, Wind River, Logan Lucky, Coco, Logan, Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Wondoe Woman, Thor: Ragnarok, The Disaster Artist, Baby Driver, I Tonya, Mother!, The Post, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing in Missouri, The Shape of Water, Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Spider-Man: Homecomming, John Wick 2, Life, Blade of the Immortal, The Hirman's Bodyguard.

2018
The Mule, Mission Impossible: Fallout, You Were Never Really There, Annihilation, Ready Player One, Unsane, Green Book, Creed 2, Deadpool 2, Avengers: Infinity War, Upgrade, First Man, Isle of Dogs, Crazy Rich Asians, Black Panther, Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse, Roma, Blackkklansman, A Quiet Place, Bumblebee, Searching.

2019
Joker, Us, Parasite, Marriage Story, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Farewell, Knives Out, The Lighthouse, 1917, Jojo Rabbit, Midsommar, Dolemite is my Name, Alita: Battle Angel, Spider-Man: Far From Home, John Wick 3, Avengers Endgame, One Cut of the Dead, Ford V Ferarri, Dark Waters, The Kid Who Would Be King, Ready or Not, Hustlers, Crawl, Long Shot, The Report, Good Boys, Little Monsters, Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, Doctor Sleep, Hotel Mumbai.

You know what? You have a point my friend. There’s more than just a few gems. There really were great films in recent history. We just didn’t grow up with them.

 

[MrRogers]

Also anyone who wants to use the nostalgia argument for those of us that think modern flicks are by and large steaming souless turds. Well my impressionable kid/teen years were in the late 90s early 2000s, yet i believe the golden age of movies was in the 50s and 80s. I'll watch anything from the 50s over the utter shite release nowadays, cant nostagia me there. Even most of the movies from the 50s ive only seen in the last 3 years as a late 30 year old. The 2010s especailly, are a utter disaster and i've been watching flicks from the 40s and 50s for the first time as their replacement.

 

[sol_bad]

Also anyone who wants to use the nostalgia argument for those of us that think modern flicks are by and large steaming souless turds. Well my impressionable kid/teen years were in the late 90s early 2000s, yet i believe the golden age of movies was in the 50s and 80s. I'll watch anything from the 50s over the utter shite release nowadays, cant nostagia me there. Even most of the movies from the 50s ive only seen in the last 3 years as a late 30 year old. The 2010s especailly, are a utter disaster and i've been watching flicks from the 40s and 50s for the first time as their replacement.

So pretty much every movie I listed is a piece of shit?

 

[hariseldon]

Also anyone who wants to use the nostalgia argument for those of us that think modern flicks are by and large steaming souless turds. Well my impressionable kid/teen years were in the late 90s early 2000s, yet i believe the golden age of movies was in the 50s and 80s. I'll watch anything from the 50s over the utter shite release nowadays, cant nostagia me there. Even most of the movies from the 50s ive only seen in the last 3 years as a late 30 year old. The 2010s especailly, are a utter disaster and i've been watching flicks from the 40s and 50s for the first time as their replacement.

Yeah my Plex is full of stuff older than 80s - I even have a few gems from the 30s. Some fantastic work out there, some of it feels far more modern than you might expect.

 

[hariseldon]

So pretty much every movie I listed is a piece of shit?

By and large means mostly, not all. I’d say that there are good films in your list, some excellent, but the number matching up to the greats of the 70s for instance is tiny.

 

[Kagey K]

My 12 year old says they were better back then, and he grew up exposed to modern movies early and my nostalgia movies later.

He actively goes out out his way to watch Top Gun and Goonies, instead of whatever Netflix hit of the Week is out this Friday.

The movie he is most excited for coming soon is Bill and Ted Face the Music.

 

[hariseldon]

My 12 year old says they were better back then, and he grew up exposed to modern movies early and my nostalgia movies later.

He actively goes out out his way to watch Top Gun and Goonies, instead of whatever Netflix hit of the Week is out this Friday.

The movie he is most excited for coming soon is Bill and Ted Face the Music.

The Top Gun soundtrack is just pure sex on a stick. Best film soundtrack ever.

 

[Kagey K]

The Top Gun soundtrack is just pure sex on a stick. Best film soundtrack ever.

Mighty Wings, Danger Zone and Take My Breath Away are hard to top bangers written just for a movie.

Playin with the Boys, was actually what made him interested in watching it when it was featured in Rocket League last summer.

 

[EviLore]

Movies peaked in the 50s through 90s for sure.

CGI-everything, short attention span pacing, and Hollywood releases consolidating into a small number of endless trash franchises and reboots have led to a massive decline in cinema magic over the past 15 years or so.

The medium budget film exists again via Netflix and the other streaming services, but they’re mostly even worse than Hollywood’s output.

 

[H4ze]

I love "older" movies a lot, they have that special feeling to them.
I always feel like they ain't doing sound as good as they did back then.

 

[hariseldon]

The medium budget film exists again via Netflix and the other streaming services, but they’re mostly even worse than Hollywood’s output.

The problem is that they're just as consolidated, just to a different corporation. Netflix aren't really creative and neither Apple nor Amazon are companies you'd describe as interested in art.

 

[John Mullins]

All style no substance that's one of the biggest problems in a nut shell.

I feel like most film makers today are in it for the wrong reasons. End result is that we end up with things that are films only in a technical sense, in that it is a bunch of moving pictures with sound. Low grade 'content' hoping to turn a profit.

 

[BlackOlivesMatter]

Movies were better in the 80's because people took chances with their scripts (for better or worse). Today it's nothing but regurgitated comic book garbage, or shitty remakes of better movies.

Hopefully more people take chances with indie films, the studio's don't give a fuck and probably never will again.

If you consider yourself an "aspiring" film maker, listen to Joe Bob's advice...

 

[Gp1]

The Top Gun soundtrack is just pure sex on a stick. Best film soundtrack ever.

Mighty Wings, Danger Zone and Take My Breath Away are hard to top bangers written just for a movie.

Playin with the Boys, was actually what made him interested in watching it when it was featured in Rocket League last summer.

Top gun is a "ok" movie (if you don't like aviation), but as a audio visual experience alone is almost porn.



I saw this at a cinema with a good audio in one of those reescrenings some years ago. But given the current situation, i really recommend the new 4k hdr blu ray.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

I think the continuously shortened length of cuts has something to do with this. If you watch film from the past the camera shots are on screen longer, allowing for you to soak it in, to memorize the experience, and to really immerse yourself in that world.

Movies nowadays are edited so tightly, moving the audience from one set piece to the next, because the movies have to be a certain length so that the companies can sell a specific number of screenings per day.

This ends up making everything go by too fast and feel flashier and empty. I think a lot of it has to do with digital filmmaking, how easy it becomes to just shoot and shoot and shoot and make it up later in the editing bay. Whereas an old school filmmaker would plan these things out in advance, pondering the same one shot over and over again, adjusting the lighting, camera, etc. on the way to that final take. Analog film is expensive and you couldn’t just do it over and over until you got it right, you had to think things through in advance. We use a lot of shortcuts nowadays that makes the entire process far easier, thus less challenging, thus less creative.


Older movies are more memorable on a formal level simply because the images last longer. Which would be more natural of an experience simply because jump cuts don’t happen in real life, it is not how we experience the world, and a slower more considerate pace thus creates a more immersive and authentically human experience. This makes it more relatable and ultimately more memorable and iconic to the mind’s eye.

 

[Happosai]

Movies peaked in the 50s through 90s for sure.

CGI-everything, short attention span pacing, and Hollywood releases consolidating into a small number of endless trash franchises and reboots have led to a massive decline in cinema magic over the past 15 years or so.

The medium budget film exists again via Netflix and the other streaming services, but they’re mostly even worse than Hollywood’s output.

It seems that has partly to do with the medium budget cinematographer studying the same format Hollywood is regurgitating and coming out more so mediocre with their limited budget. This is why I left my film pursuits in art school in the 2000's and their discouraging career advice. My professors told me in short, "You'll get paid less-than a teacher's salary." Now, I'm working as a teacher...ironic.

 

[sunnysideup]

I just saw once upon a time in hollywood. And it reminded me how fucking good cinema can be and how good used to be. And how fucking crappy it is today.

Cinema was THE premium medium/art form 20 years ago. Everyone talked about jurrasic park when it was released, and smaller art films made a huge stir. These days it is beyond its peak and it is regressing. It simply is not relevant as it used to be. No one cares about the latest (marvel) movie. A lot of cinemas thunder has been stolen by tvseries. But its a different medium at its core. Tv is a writers medium, cinema is the directors. Honestly a lot of the tv series end up being overly long and full of filler. Rarely does a tv series have a solid and cohesive beginning, middle and an end. Its to often written just to keep you watching.

 

[Kagey K]

I just saw once upon a time in hollywood. And it reminded me how fucking good cinema can be and how good used to be. And how fucking crappy it is today.

Cinema was THE premium medium/art form 20 years ago. Everyone talked about jurrasic park when it was released, and smaller art films made a huge stir. These days it is beyond its peak and it is regressing. It simply is not relevant as it used to be. No one cares about the latest (marvel) movie. A lot of cinemas thunder has been stolen by tvseries. But its a different medium at its core. Tv is a writers medium, cinema is the directors. Honestly a lot of the tv series end up being overly long and full of filler. Rarely does a tv series have a solid and cohesive beginning, middle and an end. Its to often written just to keep you watching.

Back then movie stars wouldn’t even consider signing up for a TV series, it was beneath them. Now you see them signing on to series left and right.

I think it speaks to how far Cinema has fallen and not to how much TV has grown. (Not that TV hasn’t grown)

 

[Happosai]

Back then movie stars wouldn’t even consider signing up for a TV series, it was beneath them. Now you see them signing on to series left and right.

I think it speaks to how far Cinema has fallen and not to how much TV has grown. (Not that TV hasn’t grown)

Gaming always seems to have something good to offer. Obviously, not everything comes out great. I mean to say, entertainment as a whole seems to be collapsing under excess. Movies, TV, music, and writing. That's why I feel like a dinosaur at the age of 33. I grew up with things seeming to be more and more cutting edge. 25-45 years ago it seemed cinema would only get better for the future. The same with music and other mediums. I feel that we exhausted these artistic and technological advances from the 70's-80's before 1999. Film makers didn't leave much of a future for predecessor students because they stopped teaching film theory, physics, and scoring. Many film schools that brought in what I call "the last great film masters" were those who studied at the Roger Corman film school in the 70's-early 80's. Even those guys seem to have lost some of their touch. The only hope is for independent film students to build on where past technology left off. It's an expensive excursion and many fear rejection from producers to fund something new.

 

[KormaChameleon]

You don't remember the great Rob Schneider?

Rob Schneider derp herpy derpy derp.

 

[Mahadev]

Movies from the 80's, 90's and 00's were objectively better. Even the dumbest action flicks often bothered to setup the characters and some basic character development, I watch older movies I've never watched before and they're still better than the 90% of the trash we have today. And it's not that Hollywood has run out of ideas it's that the writers weren't talentless pretentious hacks, they actually made an effort to create believable, interesting characters and even if the story wasn't something innovative or very interesting you cared enough about it and the characters to care about the movie. The worst part of 10's movies is the cardboard cutout characters and safe, boring plot in the vast majority of mainstream movies and the pretentious, pointless stories in indie ones. Hollywood has managed to fuck up every genre, oh and btw comedy is dead because the woketards have taken over LA.

 

[teezzy]

They still make awesome movies and they're absolutely tailored more towards modern attention spans and ideologies. Whether you're in favor of that or not is up to you but the garbo to kino ratio is pretty much the same as it's been for decades.

 

[cryptoadam]

Death of the independent film maker. Everything is a corporate conglomorate now to sell to international markets.

Lots of great stuff came outside the studio system. And you had lots of independent production houses. You won't get a Canon or Orion pictures now a days. Anything will be bought up and sliced and diced for streaming purposes or to make the latest bland CGI fest block buster.

 

[DKehoe]

Death of the independent film maker. Everything is a corporate conglomorate now to sell to international markets.

It's sad when some new talented director emerges and then rather than getting the opportunity to explore whatever stories they want to tell they instead get attached to the latest instalment of some franchise. I'm sure they are getting a shitload of money for it, so good on them for that I guess. But I don't need to see what everyone's take on a superhero film is.

 

[NahaNago]

Movies today have bigger budgets and larger polish but I wouldn't say they are better. I kind of feel we have lost something in the movie making process that made those movies so memorable.

 

[Woffls]

Well I’ll be watching John Wick in ten years time... but not many other recent films. Damn sure I’ll be watching Escape from New York, True Lies, Miracle Mile and Days of Thunder, though

 

[cryptoadam]

What ever happened to the movie soundtrack? The hit song from a movie was often even bigger than the movie and in many cases out lived the films. St Elmos fire is a great example of a movie that had middling sucsess but a hit song and everyone probably knows the song more than the film. Or gangtars paradise. Everyone knows coolio and that song, but does anyone remember that generic michelle pfiffer school movie? Titanic was a super hit, and along with that came Celine Dion and her insanly massive hit song.

It used to be simple, have a hit song and you could have a hit movie. Sometimes it worked the other way around where the movie could propel a song to the top. But having a hit album and single was always a key part to a movie in many cases the most important part. Around the 2000's or so the hit single kinda faded and died. Now its really hard to remember any big hit songs that coming from a movie. I think the only one that really stands out is the Frozen song. I remember it used to be exciting to see which of your fav band would make it onto a movie soundtrack and some of the best albums you could get for your money were movie soundtracks because it would gather all your favourite artists.

 

[brap]

They still make awesome movies and they're absolutely tailored more towards modern attention spans and ideologies. Whether you're in favor of that or not is up to you but the garbo to kino ratio is pretty much the same as it's been for decades.

Guess they're not awesome then.

 

[BigBooper]

The early 2000s had some good ones too, but since about 2010 the movie industry has been in the dumpster.

 

[teezzy]

Guess they're not awesome then.

Fair enough point, but these types of threads pop up every so often whether it be movies, music, or games, etc. Every time it happens, people cherry pick their favorites from decades past and pit them against some random garbage from the current decade.

Just feels weird to me to pretend as though creativity and taste at some point hit an active standstill, especially considering just how many innovations in technology there have beeen to give creative people more ways than ever to express themselves.

People say independent filmmaking is dead, yet somewhere out there right now a group of people are making some low budget slasher on their iPhone 11 or something and editing it on the very same device, and uploading it to YouTube or Pornhub or gettting a Hulu deal or whatever.

I just don't buy it. It's like people who say crap like "music died with John Lennon!" I refuse to be part of their camp.

 

[brap]

Fair enough point, but these types of threads pop up every so often whether it be movies, music, or games, etc. Every time it happens, people cherry pick their favorites from decades past and pit them against some random garbage from the current decade.

Just feels weird to me to pretend as though creativity and taste at some point hit an active standstill, especially considering just how many innovations in technology there have beeen to give creative people more ways than ever to express themselves.

People say independent filmmaking is dead, yet somewhere out there right now a group of people are making some low budget slasher on their iPhone 11 or something and editing it on the very same device, and uploading it to YouTube or Pornhub or gettting a Hulu deal or whatever.

I just don't buy it. It's like people who say crap like "music died with John Lennon!" I refuse to be part of their camp.

Oh boy garbage!!! I bet it's also self aware and bad on purpose too! Epic!

You're further proving the point that these days you mostly have some focus tested assembly line hollywood garbage for the lowest common denominator or extreme low budget dogshit nobody in their right minds would watch. I could watch some old random ass movie like Tequila Sunrise and be more entertained by that than anything these days.

 

[teezzy]

You're ignoring all the mid-budget stuff that goes to streaming.

We're not gonna agree, I guess.

 

[brap]

You're ignoring all the mid-budget stuff that goes to streaming.

We're not gonna agree, I guess.

You act like people only remember good stuff though. I can enjoy any random ass older movie than any "good" current one. It's because they're better.

 

[teezzy]

Better in terms of what? Honest question.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

mid-budget stuff was some of the best tho. that's where the b-movie genre lived. Canon Films???? Roger Corman???

yall ever see Carnosaur? the movie rules.



how about Rocketeer?

 

[Barrage]

I think these are two different conversations, with two seperate eras being lumped together.I don't find the 80s overall as a great period for film, besides family movies (which, given a lot of us were either young then/saw those movies as kids in the 90s, give the entire era a rose-coloured tint).

Anything that did come out that was cool and original ended up milked and exploited-but without the quality control a hit has today. As an example, everything following the original Robocop was garbage, in my opinion. I would take the 2010s over the 80s.

The 90s was a great time overall for movies, with a real revival of independent film and maybe the last hurrah for movie star-based adult vehicles. The year 1999 in general may be the best year for North American pop culture, period.

 

[BigBooper]

Just feels weird to me to pretend as though creativity and taste at some point hit an active standstill, especially considering just how many innovations in technology there have beeen to give creative people more ways than ever to express themselves.

I don't think it's at a standstill, but the decks are currently being reshuffled. Streaming has changed the landscape, and with the coronovirus theater shutdowns, who knows if even the big blockbuster comic movie will survive? Streaming is in the grip of social networks though, and currently social networks are infected by a mind virus of stifling diverse thought and free speech; and streaming video is being affected by that.

I think and hope it will eventually settle down and creativity will be allowed again, but we're currently falling off the cliff and no one knows how far the bottom is.

 

[brap]

Better in terms of what? Honest question.

Entertainment value. Looking like an actual film.

 

[Happosai]

What ever happened to the movie soundtrack? The hit song from a movie was often even bigger than the movie and in many cases out lived the films. St Elmos fire is a great example of a movie that had middling sucsess but a hit song and everyone probably knows the song more than the film. Or gangtars paradise. Everyone knows coolio and that song, but does anyone remember that generic michelle pfiffer school movie? Titanic was a super hit, and along with that came Celine Dion and her insanly massive hit song.

It used to be simple, have a hit song and you could have a hit movie. Sometimes it worked the other way around where the movie could propel a song to the top. But having a hit album and single was always a key part to a movie in many cases the most important part. Around the 2000's or so the hit single kinda faded and died. Now its really hard to remember any big hit songs that coming from a movie. I think the only one that really stands out is the Frozen song. I remember it used to be exciting to see which of your fav band would make it onto a movie soundtrack and some of the best albums you could get for your money were movie soundtracks because it would gather all your favourite artists.

I've mentioned cutting songs and scores from modern cinema as one of modern cinema's extinct features. Indeed, sometimes a score outdid the movie itself. The whole soundtrack for Against All Odds has great songs from great artists. But Phil Collins title track is remembered more than the movie itself.
When I was in college I used to frequent the music rooms to practice piano. Sometimes the rooms would have two pianos and some stoner mediocre musician would walk in to the vacant piano while I was playing. They'd sit down and bum up a Cold Play song and then I'd throw a soundtrack clip at them. I remember one guy who replied by striking sharp to major (just the two notes) from Jaws obviously. I said, "Nice try, good old John Williams." I think he looked surprised and asked if it was something to do with the imperial March from Star Wars. He didn't even have the culture to figure out the theme was from Jaws. Imagine kids now...what's a score? Is that like music or something?

 

[teezzy]

Taste is subjective, but I have no problem finding modern movies which interest me. I actively had to edit trailer links out of this post because I didn't want to exceed the forum imposed limit.

Like I'm a total stick in the mud who loves old stuff as much as anyone else, if not more, but I feel that pretending there isn't intriguing new movies coming out constantly is a defeatist attitude also.

 

[brap]

Taste is subjective, but I have no problem finding modern movies which interest me. I actively had to edit trailer links out of this post because I didn't want to exceed the forum imposed limit.

Like I'm a total stick in the mud who loves old stuff as much as anyone else, if not more, but I feel that pretending there isn't intriguing new movies coming out constantly is a defeatist attitude also.

Most of those movies look fucking shit dude. Jesus christ. Dude I love A24 I R sew smrt XD

 

[dolabla]

Yes, definitely. I can't bring myself to watch most new movies. These modern Hollywood movies freaking suck. I stick to the classics and will watch older stuff I've never seen before. I'm actually about to watch Creepshow for my dose of Halloween

 

[Happosai]

Yes, definitely. I can't bring myself to watch most new movies. These modern Hollywood movies freaking suck. I stick to the classics and will watch older stuff I've never seen before. I'm actually about to watch Creepshow for my dose of Halloween

Nailed it! Cinema is just running on zombie juice right now. It gives me a bit of paranoia to see physical video market disappearing, cousins trying to get me to buy into streaming, and overall losing the value of great storytelling that was practical traditional cinema. So, like Leslie...I say to myself, "No need to get jumpy. They're all gone...blub-blub-blub-blub!" I can hold my breath for a long LONG time!

 

[Cockles & Whelks]

They were better. When Hollywood seeked to entertain, rather than preach.

 

[dolabla]

Nailed it! Cinema is just running on zombie juice right now. It gives me a bit of paranoia to see physical video market disappearing, cousins trying to get me to buy into streaming, and overall losing the value of great storytelling that was practical traditional cinema. So, like Leslie...I say to myself, "No need to get jumpy. They're all gone...blub-blub-blub-blub!" I can hold my breath for a long LONG time!

Yep, I feel ya.

Speaking of physical media, so stoked to be getting this collection this week.

 

[MrMephistoX]

With the imminent death of the cinema experience accelerated by COVID I’m optimistic studios will figure out how to maintain Hollywood level production values in series. Like I finally just saw Alita Battle Angel this weekend and I couldn’t help but thinking it would work so much better if they did a series on Netflix and mimicked the episodic nature of the Manga instead of trying for two big budget film sequels that ai t happening.

Same with SOLO. Maybe the Magic Mando tech will make this a reality.

Movies are worse because the budget means suits get paranoid and fuck with the story.