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[VGTech] Marvel's Avengers PS5 vs Xbox Series X vs Xbox Series S Frame Rate Comparison
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ManaByte
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Another one. PS5 is BEAST
Edit: still looking for that TF delta
DenchDeckard
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This is a huge win for xbox and is comparable to what was seen on the other video. I can't get how it's such a huge performance gap. The ps5 needs a patch. Very noticeable and blurry in performance mode.
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ManaByte
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I'm not the one posting disingenuous console war statements. It clearly says the PS5 is using checkerboard to reach the dynamic res targets.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
The ps5 has checkerboard rendering where the vertical axis gets completely split in half and the game and even menus text on screen becomes extremely blurry. It's effectively running at 1920 x 2160. It's a massive resolution drop compared to the series x.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I know you are just 9 years old, but you should look up what checkerboard means.
Shmunter
Member
Interesting findings even if not having a laugh.
PS5 retaining 4Kcb vs eg 1836p native on XsX may indeed provide a crisper result for PS5 more often. Need more in-depth insight from likes of NXGamer.
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DenchDeckard
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Its not crisper, unfortunately its very noticeable that it is blurry on ps5 and even affects the menu text.
StreetsofBeige
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Already an Avengers comparison thread.
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- The 3 versions have 2 display modes: 4K / 30FPS (1440p on S Series) and some improved settings or variable 4K at 60FPS (1080p on S Series).
- 4K / 30FPS mode has slight improvement in reflections, textures, particles, draw distance and shadows. - In 4K / 30FPS mode they all experience some small drops in resolution, although they keep the target set most of the time, especially Series X.
- In FPS mode, for the first few minutes of the game, the PS5 resolution varies between 3840x2160 and 2560x1440p, but as soon as we get to the Quinjet and start missions with more open and loaded spaces, the usual resolution becomes dynamic 1920x2160p, while on X Series it stays at dynamic 3840x1836p. In this case, there is a clear advantage in the Xbox version.
- In FPS mode, Series X maintains a higher draw distance. - Slightly better loading times on PS5.
- The framerate is quite stable in both modes, slightly better on PS5
Marvel's Avengers - PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X - Graphics Comparison & FPS Test
- The 3 versions have 2 display modes: 4K / 30FPS (1440p on S Series) and some improved settings or variable 4K at 60FPS (1080p on S Series). - 4K / 30FPS mode has slight improvement in reflections, textures, particles, draw distance and shadows. - In 4K / 30FPS mode they all experience some...
- The 3 versions have 2 display modes: 4K / 30FPS (1440p on S Series) and some improved settings or variable 4K at 60FPS (1080p on S Series).
- 4K / 30FPS mode has slight improvement in reflections, textures, particles, draw distance and shadows. - In 4K / 30FPS mode they all experience some small drops in resolution, although they keep the target set most of the time, especially Series X.
- In FPS mode, for the first few minutes of the game, the PS5 resolution varies between 3840x2160 and 2560x1440p, but as soon as we get to the Quinjet and start missions with more open and loaded spaces, the usual resolution becomes dynamic 1920x2160p, while on X Series it stays at dynamic 3840x1836p. In this case, there is a clear advantage in the Xbox version.
- In FPS mode, Series X maintains a higher draw distance. - Slightly better loading times on PS5.
- The framerate is quite stable in both modes, slightly better on PS5
Stuart360
Member
Checkerboard vs native. Oh and 25 more fames on PS5 from over 20,000 frames, how will XSX users cope with such a lower framerate!
Bernd Lauert
Banned
That's a different analyst, and some people don't trust him because he's produced bad results in the past.Already an Avengers comparison thread.
Marvel's Avengers - PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X - Graphics Comparison & FPS Test
- The 3 versions have 2 display modes: 4K / 30FPS (1440p on S Series) and some improved settings or variable 4K at 60FPS (1080p on S Series). - 4K / 30FPS mode has slight improvement in reflections, textures, particles, draw distance and shadows. - In 4K / 30FPS mode they all experience some...
- The 3 versions have 2 display modes: 4K / 30FPS (1440p on S Series) and some improved settings or variable 4K at 60FPS (1080p on S Series).
- 4K / 30FPS mode has slight improvement in reflections, textures, particles, draw distance and shadows. - In 4K / 30FPS mode they all experience some small drops in resolution, although they keep the target set most of the time, especially Series X.
- In FPS mode, for the first few minutes of the game, the PS5 resolution varies between 3840x2160 and 2560x1440p, but as soon as we get to the Quinjet and start missions with more open and loaded spaces, the usual resolution becomes dynamic 1920x2160p, while on X Series it stays at dynamic 3840x1836p. In this case, there is a clear advantage in the Xbox version.
- In FPS mode, Series X maintains a higher draw distance. - Slightly better loading times on PS5.
- The framerate is quite stable in both modes, slightly better on PS5
ManaByte
Gold Member
No, I have both versions. I finished the campaign on the PS4. Proof:
Got the XSX version on sale and have done side-by-side A/B switching on the receiver and the XSX version does look sharper.
assurdum
Banned
It not effectively runs at "1920x2160p".
First he said "sometimes" and not all the time and precisely:
PS5 in performance mode can sometimes exhibit half horizontal resolution artifacts and the UI elements can sometimes show visible stippling artifacts, both seem to be related to the use of checkerboard rendering.
Quite surprising to see such issue something is definitely off in the CBR solutions. Hope it's a bug. Said that why not use dynamic 1600-1800p resolution if CBR is broken? Really opinable choice.
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StreetsofBeige
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20,000 frames tested at 60 fps = 333 seconds = about 5.5 minutes
25 frames out of 20,000 frames = 0.125%
0.125% out of 333 seconds = 0.4 seconds
So if I did the math right, for every 5.5 minutes, the PS5 game had slightly better frame rates 0.4 seconds of the time.
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assurdum
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In theory yes 4kcbr is extremely comparable in terms of sharpness to native 1800p but in this case that CBR sucks.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Because the PS5 apparently can't sustain that resolution. DF said the average resolution during busy fights is 1800p CBR. That's something like 1300p native.
assurdum
Banned
Don't say bullshit please. It can runs at dynamic 4k at 30 FPS with better setting but not at dynamic 1600-1800p with lowest setting? It's now the series X CPU more powerful?
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Bernd Lauert
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What exactly is bullshit?
I did some quick math and on average, XSX is pushing around 55% more pixels than the PS5. Huge difference. I wonder what happened.
Shmunter
Member
Can’t notice a thing in my 75”. Maybe YouTube compression is masking it. Do you have the ps5 version personally?
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ManaByte
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Methos#1975
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Who cares, game is beautiful as hell in next gen mode either way. Real advantage the Xbox version has imo is the new Dolby Vision update, really takes advantage of this games visuals.
turtlepowa
Banned
You got to love those threads. Fanboys bitching over some pixels of (shitty) games they probably will never play.
JackMcGunns
Member
Another one. PS5 is BEAST
Edit: still looking for that TF delta
Are you confused? All 3 have a perfect 60fps as videogames go, and Series X has a higher internal resolution and even better textures in some parts, probably due to a glitch in the PS5 version.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Who cares, game is beautiful as hell in next gen mode either way. Real advantage the Xbox version has imo is the new Dolby Vision update, really takes advantage of this games visuals.
But Dolby is worse than horse armor DLC now.
ManaByte
Gold Member
It's possible the XSX is running higher-res textures since it's something like 30GB larger than the PS5 version.
assurdum
Banned
Wut? No.
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Mr Moose
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How large is it on the Series S?
ManaByte
Gold Member
Don't know haven't installed it on my Series S yet.
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assurdum
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I'm asking if you genuinely asking or are you trolling. How many games patched from pro to ps5 showed a tiny resolution gap compared the series X
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JackMcGunns
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Shmunter
Member
The large XsX size is usually due to less capable compression hardware vs PS5. Could be the case here too.
Methos#1975
Member
That's Dolby Atmos, not Dolby Vision, stupid opinion either way.
assurdum
Banned
I mean, it happens in one scene on the characters. That's an huge difference to say series X uses higher resolution texture in some spots
like the fuck you even tried to say
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The irony in this post.
Did you not watch the video or did you just fail to understand it?
Unless you some sort of super computer the framedrops that happen so so rarely wouldnt be noticeable 58 vs 60 for 1 or 2 frames is negligible, the definition of known-ship.
fauxK vs 4K though?
<---- Thinks more games should use TAAU or CB in conjunction with DSR for a best of both worlds situation.
Cant wait for SuperResolution I wonder the first game implement it.
JackMcGunns
Member
I mean, it happens in one scene on the characters. That's an huge difference to say series X uses higher resolution texture in some spots
Just an observation, but overall it does look sharper on Series X and better texture filtering.
It's just a piece of plastic dude lol.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
JESUS!!! Time for PS6/XSX2 with Intel + Nvidia.
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assurdum
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It's because it uses native resolution "dude".Just an observation, but overall it does look sharper on Series X and better texture filtering.
It's just a piece of plastic dude lol.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Fuck me, this game looks great. What a waste cuz it's a shitty game apparently (never played it myself).Who cares, game is beautiful as hell in next gen mode either way. Real advantage the Xbox version has imo is the new Dolby Vision update, really takes advantage of this games visuals.
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MasterCornholio
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A very good analysis. The check boarding on tbe PS5 does seem a bit odd though.
JackMcGunns
Member
You can see the texture filtering difference on the upper half of the image. Bottom line is the image on the right shows a pretty significant difference, no need to come in defending the PS5's honor. I can't even begin to imagine how you're going to cope when the gap widens.
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Tickle My Tendies
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Interesting, I feel like three different analysts have found three slightly different results regarding PS5’s common checkerboarding performance.
PS5 won Crash 4 last week, but looks like XsX wins Avengers this week. Native resolution in performance mode with higher draw distance, and basically the same performance.
Wonder why no one has compared Yakuza: Like a Dragon. Figured once it got released on PS5 someone would compare
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assurdum
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As expected you haven't a single clue of you are talking about and you can't even distinguish the blurriness of a lower precision buffer IQ to a better AF. Jeez
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JackMcGunns
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Stuart360
Member
To be fair, i also agree with you that its not AF related. I have to say though that if the image quality is that bad on PS5, then well i dont think it really matters whats causing it.
Also what is it with the consoles not doing 16xAF in every game?, its basically 'free' performance wise on PC.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
You can see the texture filtering difference on the upper half of the image. Bottom line is the image on the right shows a pretty significant difference, no need to come in defending the PS5's honor. I can't even begin to imagine how you're going to cope when the gap widens.
Some people get really disturbed anytime a Series console shows any sort of advantage at all in any game.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Last gen was kinda bandwidth starved, so I get it. But this gen there is no excuse not to use 16xAF.