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News VGtech: Destiny 2 PS5 and Xbox Series X|S 60fps Frame Rate Test

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Those tools bringing the heat.
 

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From the sounds of it the XSX barely wins this one. Heck the two are so close I wouldn't make a purchase decision off the graphical differences between the two. Just my opinion.
Actually I give the nod to the PS5(I have tested both)
PS5 has better AA with XSX suffering from shimmering.

Hopefully a more in depth test is done to show this.
 
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Bungie need to be called out for their laziness here. The particle effect, GPU effects, smoke and most other effects have been dialled down to low for the next gen systems. Instead of optimising and enhancing them they took the lazy route and turned everything down to low while allowing the systems to brute force to 60fps.
The character shadows are really shitty, I don't remember them being that bad before.
 

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Bungie need to be called out for their laziness here. The particle effect, GPU effects, smoke and most other effects have been dialled down to low for the next gen systems. Instead of optimising and enhancing them they took the lazy route and turned everything down to low while allowing the systems to brute force to 60fps.
It's a mix of medium / high settings and they achieved their resolution and framerate targets on all platforms.

how is that being lazy?

Bungie are among the best in the industry when it comes to optimization
 

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Will you say this when PS5 barely wins one?
PS5 wins this one and he is saying that....
No, PS5 image is more refined.....You heard it here first....
All these head to heads are a joke.

Fuck cross gen

Lets do vs thread with next gen only titles.

Oh there is none?

Switch it is then
Wait for Battlefield 6 from Dice......Or Bad Company 3......It should crush...
So basically you are saying not to infer much from the video because of slight differences in scenes.

Then you proceed to tell people they should infer the opposite because... of reasons.

At least they had some data to back up their claims.
No, I'm saying most of Vgtech's framerate runs are like for like. Some games it's impossible, Destiny is one, they can't control the load and scene per scene or load is not exact....Just as in every MP game, you judge performance based on overall average framerates. Vgtech was just professional enough to disclaim that so people would be advised....PS5 wins on overall framerate with more explosions and the player being closer to the action which heightens the load, all that with a touch better IQ as well...
 

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PS5 wins this one and he is saying that....

No, PS5 image is more refined.....You heard it here first....

Wait for Battlefield 6 from Dice......Or Bad Company 3......It should crush...

No, I'm saying most of Vgtech's framerate runs are like for like. Some games it's impossible, Destiny is one, they can't control the load and scene per scene or load is not exact....Just as in every MP game, you judge performance based on overall average framerates. Vgtech was just professional enough to disclaim that so people would be advised....PS5 wins on overall framerate with more explosions and the player being closer to the action which heightens the load, all that with a touch better IQ as well...
That's a big paragraph to say you are inferring stuff without actual metrics.

You may be right, but again it's inferred. You don't know because... well... it wasn't measured.
 

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That's a big paragraph to say you are inferring stuff without actual metrics.

You may be right, but again it's inferred. You don't know because... well... it wasn't measured.

He's just making stuff up.

When you watch the video although you can't make the scenes play identically they are run throughs of the same areas. There isn't one format closer to the action or having more explosions at all😂
 
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He's just making stuff up.

When you watch the video although you can't make the scenes play identically they are run throughs of the same areas. There isn't one format closer to the action or having more explosions at all😂

Not to mention how often I see cherry picked "side by side" shots in other threads showing framerate higher on PS5 but not only is it not the same scene, it's a completely different area of the game. One poster in particular loves doing this.
 

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He's just making stuff up.

When you watch the video although you can't make the scenes play identically they are run throughs of the same areas. There isn't one format closer to the action or having more explosions at all😂
Let's be honest here you're just as bad with some of your claims.

Do you have a link to these upcoming Dirt 5 features yet?
 
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Let's be honest here you're just as bad with some of your claims.

Do you have a link to these upcoming Dirt 5 features yet?

You were supplying the link that VRS is used on the Xbox version, you couldn't find one, just some talk before release. Take it to the Dirt 5 thread, it's all off topic.

Interview with Mr Karp himself,

"We do have an update that will be coming out soon that will address almost all of those issues. But we have got quite a big service plan for the game with lots of big features, and lots of DLC content, and we will be continuing to optimise and improve performance and stability during that service. So a screenshot of what the game looks like right now or after the patch comes out may not be the same by the time we’ve finished anyway."
 
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Not to mention how often I see cherry picked "side by side" shots in other threads showing framerate higher on PS5 but not only is it not the same scene, it's a completely different area of the game. One poster in particular loves doing this.

I've seen Riky Riky do the same thing. It's the main reason why it got a temp.

I'm not a fan of cherry picked screenshots either. It's why I prefer to look at stats instead.

Edit: Riky Riky you seriously don't want me to link to your CoD pictures right?

It's annoying when anyone posts cherry picked screenshots to give a false impression of a game.
 
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You were supplying the link that VRS is used on the Xbox version, you couldn't find one, just some talk before release. Take it to the Dirt 5 thread, it's all off topic.
Good of you to admit you were making it up.

But agreed. It's off topic here.
 
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He's just making stuff up.

When you watch the video although you can't make the scenes play identically they are run throughs of the same areas. There isn't one format closer to the action or having more explosions at all😂
When people infer things, I'm generally of the mind they are making it up.

My personal favourite was the "touch of better IQ as well" statement. Bullshit meter was off the charts with that one.

 
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Dunno, I prefer to live in the here and now, enjoying the best performance a console can give.

I thought it was the TV that did that. I'm definitely not getting VRR on my monitor.

But I guess what you said makes sense. What matters are how things currently are not what they might be like. But at least we have official confirmation of VRR for the PS5.

P.S I don't believe the PS5 getting VRR will automatically make it the most powerful console. There's alot more that goes into how a game plays than just a variable refresh rate.
 
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I thought it was the TV that did that. I'm definitely not getting VRR on my monitor.

But I guess what you said makes sense. What matters are how things currently are not what they might be like. But at least we have official confirmation of VRR for the PS5.

P.S I don't believe the PS5 getting VRR will automatically make it the most powerful console. There's alot more that goes into how a game plays than just a variable refresh rate.

If it was just the TV then it would work on PS5 now, it doesn't.
 
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I thought it was the TV that did that. I'm definitely not getting VRR on my monitor.

But I guess what you said makes sense. What matters are how things currently are not what they might be like. But at least we have official confirmation of VRR for the PS5.

P.S I don't believe the PS5 getting VRR will automatically make it the most powerful console. There's alot more that goes into how a game plays than just a variable refresh rate.
It just prevents screen tearing bud. Nothing to do with power.
 
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Contact Sony customer support and ask them to flick the switch, I have no idea why they haven't turned it on since it supports it 🤷🏼

It's probably just a software thing. For a moment you made it seem like the hardware isn't capable of it.

But then again I don't think turning it on will automatically give the PS5 superior versions of multiplats. It's not like it's like technology that will improve framerate or resolution. It just helps eliminate tearing.
 
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Contact Sony customer support and ask them to flick the switch, I have no idea why they haven't turned it on since it supports it 🤷🏼
Once sony games start to suffer from screen tearing i am sure sony will say ok lets help out our console.
But soo far there was no need for that feature right?

Look its cool and all but i am not in business to buy a new tv every 2 years and certanly not 80inch ones evey 2 years.
My last one was over 5k and i bought it to last past its 5 year warranty.
And thats the point.
 

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Contact Sony customer support and ask them to flick the switch, I have no idea why they haven't turned it on since it supports it 🤷🏼
It's a similar situation with the SX version of Dirt 5 and VRS apparently. Just needs turning on.

Despite the technical lead stating it would be turned up to 11 upon realise. It's all very confusing.

Figure It Out What GIF by CBC
 
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It's a similar situation with the SX version of Dirt 5 and VRS apparently. Just needs turning on.

Despite the technical lead stating it would be turned up to 11 upon realise. It's all very confusing.

Figure It Out What GIF by CBC

Maybe VRR is an RDNA2 feature that's coming in a patch.

:messenger_winking_tongue:

I honestly don't know this generation started off extremely weird.
 

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It's not like developers are taking full advantage of the PS5 either. The generation is still young.

But from my experience the significantly more powerful system usually shows it at launch. Like with the PS4 and Xbox One for example.
But not always. The Xbox 360 seemed more powerful at first, but by the end of the generation the PS3 had some better looking games once developers knew how to take advantage of it.
 
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But not always. The Xbox 360 seemed more powerful at first, but by the end of the generation the PS3 had some better looking games once developers knew how to take advantage of it.

Not really. Even towards the end of the generation the PS3 still had inferior multiplats. Most of this was due to the weak GPU and the difficulty of the CELL. I honestly don't see a CELL like situation with the XSX.

The games that really showed off the PS3s capabilities were 1st party titles.
 

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Series x has the higher resolution on average but stumbles by not even a 3rd of a frame out of thousands

Fanboys call it a victory
 
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It makes sense, but you're not addressing the point I was.

It's not "magical" it comes from AMD themselves , unless you're saying AMD is lying?

I'm not making the comparison to PS5, you are. I'm saying the people crying about RDNA2 in this thread don't seem to understand what the RDNA2 features that Series X hardware supports actually do and that they are not implemented on any of these last gen engines.

In that case, both XSX and PS5 are based on RDNA2 and will have similar features.

If a game uses RDNA2 features on XSX, it will also likely use next-gen RDNA2 features on PS5.

In the end, both consoles will continue to trade blows. PS5 will some, XSX will win others. There is no ~20-30% advantage. Both consoles perform similarly. Gamers should play wherever they want to play and whichever console has the best games, best experience, and offer the best value to them.
 
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