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[VGTech] Battlefield 2042 PS5 & Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Test

MonarchJT

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PS5 GPU is faster at Geometry & Rasterizing with faster internal bandwidth these things can also put PS5 ahead in some games people who are shocked when PS5 come out on top don't know much about the full specs & just stuck on the GPU FLOPS
yep and in fact the PS5 pushes the console and make it most of the time very close to a most powerful GPU (Sx). But no onq you know well that although GHz having its advantages globally the x series is more powerful (by a little)

stop it with the tf thing ...the tf things as a result of a wider and stronger GPU with more cu's
 

MonarchJT

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No, that's not the way it works. I work in IT (security). Nobody ever uses teraflops, it's a meaningless number (peak theorical number of floating point instructions per second...) unless two platforms have identical architecture. Here, there are tons of customizations both in hardware and software on both platforms. You can't know which one is more powerful unless you wait for a few years and look at the results. Until now, it looks roughly equal.

There are hundreds of parameters which make a game run better on a platform or another... Really, you can't know... Those are not PCs.

That's a silly thing to fight for anyway, because even if Series X was slightly more powerful, the best looking games would probably be on the platform where the devs don't have to make multiple versions... Xbox games will have to run on every PC, Series S, Series X... It's unlikely they'll be able to match talented devs working and optimizing on a single platform... PS5 full next gen exclusives should be where the best graphics are.
bravo. slightly more powerful thats it. we could close the topic there. (I work in it too)
 
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onQ123

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yep and in fact the PS5 pushes the console and make it most of the time very close to a most powerful GPU (Sx). But no onq you know well that although GHz having its advantages globally the x series is more powerful (by a little)

stop it with the tf thing ...the tf things as a result of a wider and stronger GPU with more cu's

Well I guess you gonna have to keep being shocked by games running better on PS5
 

Rivet

Gold Member
bravo. slightly more powerful thats it. we could close the topic there. (I work in it too)

Nope that's not what I said at all, but you already know that...

I don't understand the obsession about which platform is more powerful. We already know the answer, both versions of the same game will look nearly identical like they already do.

Those fights died with diminishing returns, you're ten years late. Microsoft doesn't give a shit about the hardware you're playing Gamepass on by the way... Hardware wars are over, MS could sell Gamepass on PS5 and be fine with it.

If you want the best graphics overall, go buy a $3000 PC and a PS5 for next gen exclusives (because devs will optimize everything for a single platform), that's where the best graphics will be... But every platform will have great graphics, even Series S.
 
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Just some additional points from playing both versions

the game does run and look better on series x from my playthroughs but the series x has more glitches I think

I don’t know how many times I’ve loaded in and not been able to spawn or select my load outs….it has happened on ps5 but not as much

I do prefer the ps5 controller for flying though
 

MonarchJT

Banned
Well I guess you gonna have to keep being shocked by games running better on PS5
most games that run better on ps5 mean "0.something %" fps ...but i have a 4k 120fps VRR tv...so was nothing that could hurt me directly ...But yes seeing a crap optimization like that one of Elden ring unnerves, and certainly, highlights even more the (already famous) technical inability of the devs. COVID has slowed everything down and I expect a sharp change of course once full next gen games start rolling out.
 

MonarchJT

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Nope that's not what I said at all, but you already know that...

I don't understand the obsession about having games run better on x platform. We already know the answer, both versions of the same game will look nearly identical, those fights died with diminishing returns, you're ten years late. Microsoft doesn't give a shit about the hardware you're playing Gamepass on by the way... Hardware wars are over, MS could sell Gamepass on PS5 and be fine with it.

If you want the best graphics overall, go buy a $3000 PC and a PS5 for next gen exclusives (because devs will optimize everything for a single platform), that's where the best graphics will be... But every platform will have great graphics, even Series S.
you can write wall of texts. nothing will changing the reality Rivet the Xbox series x is slightly more powerful than the PS5. period. Higher frequency benefit if we talking about a same perfomance gpu. The GPU in the x series as well as having more CUs and thus pushing theoretical performance further than the ps5 it is also (until proven otherwise) also generationally more evolved (vrs 2.0..mesh shader, sfs etc etc). the PS5 also has a slightly less powerful CPU.
This is my last post about it, they are all shared and written by practically all the outlets. from Eurogamer .. Digital foundry to all the others, none excluded. And all are fair to the same conclusion. The Xbox series x hardware is more powerful, albeit slightly.
The software optimization of the games and the benefits of the various rendering engines with respect to the frequency or the number of cu obviously vary but they are another very different story from the hardware.
 
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onQ123

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most games that run better on ps5 mean "0.something %" fps ...but i have a 4k 120fps VRR tv...so was nothing that could hurt me directly ...But yes seeing a crap optimization like that one of Elden ring unnerves, and certainly, highlights even more the (already famous) technical inability of the devs. COVID has slowed everything down and I expect a sharp change of course once full next gen games start rolling out.

ok lol
 

Artistic

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So would we say this game is poorly optimized or hardware being pushed to it's limits?

Maps look solid...playing online right now.
 

Riky

My little VRR pleasure pearl goes vrrrooommm.
The funny thing is ps5 appears sharper though lower resolution looking at some shots. Maybe because it's CBR anyway it's laughable read all those praises about the magnificent compute heavy advantage when you need to check the native pixels counts to spot such difference in resolution, at least in most of the games.

Funny neither DF or VGTech said this, they both said settings are the same, Series X runs at a higher resolution when pushed which will give you a sharper image, fact.
The advantage can push a million pixels at time, you're going to see that in a comparison.
 
Series X runs at a higher resolution when pushed which will give you a sharper image, fact.
Sharper image on XBSX, huh?
 

assurdum

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you can write wall of texts. nothing will changing the reality Rivet the Xbox series x is slightly more powerful than the PS5. period. Higher frequency benefit if we talking about a same perfomance gpu. The GPU in the x series as well as having more CUs and thus pushing theoretical performance further than the ps5 it is also (until proven otherwise) also generationally more evolved (vrs 2.0..mesh shader, sfs etc etc). the PS5 also has a slightly less powerful CPU.
This is my last post about it, they are all shared and written by practically all the outlets. from Eurogamer .. Digital foundry to all the others, none excluded. And all are fair to the same conclusion. The Xbox series x hardware is more powerful, albeit slightly.
The software optimization of the games and the benefits of the various rendering engines with respect to the frequency or the number of cu obviously vary but they are another very different story from the hardware.
I think people can survive to the idea series X is slightly more powerful especially when the difference are barely perceivable for most of the multiplat. Funny stuff when ps5 has resolution advantage it's all bad coding or inefficient engine hearing you.
 
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assurdum

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Funny neither DF or VGTech said this, they both said settings are the same, Series X runs at a higher resolution when pushed which will give you a sharper image, fact.
The advantage can push a million pixels at time, you're going to see that in a comparison.
You know right ps5 has rendering advantage when CBR is involved because it has an hardware id buffer dedicated?
 

MonarchJT

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I think people can survive to the idea series X is slightly more powerful especially when the difference are barely perceivable for most of the multiplat. Funny stuff when ps5 has resolution advantage it's all bad coding or inefficient engine hearing you.
is funny for what you already said ... it shouldn't happen.


You know right ps5 has rendering advantage when CBR is involved because it has an hardware id buffer dedicated?
but no multiplat game use cbr implementation they use others .. that's just a Sony thing ...
 
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Guys, all I said I'd that during my play time with the game on both consoles I feel like the Series X is worse than the PS5. Even my buddies who play on just Series X complained about texture pop ins and frame dips.

I'm not into the whole teraflop, cause, gpu stuff but mine and others real world experience is that the PS5 version runs the game better.

I even tried running the game on the internal storage of the series x and found the same results.

Could just be a few isolated incidents as others have said the Series X version looks and runs better for them.

At the end of the day, the game is a mess and needs a lot if fixing and even the PC bros got an unoptimized mess.

Let's all hope for long term support and fixes.
 

Rivet

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Shitting on DF in a VGTech thread because you don't like the VGTech numbers... You should stop posting and stick to leaving trigger emojis 🤗

The point is comparisons aren't really well done by either. It's not all about pixel count and fps count, they should go further. FPS numbers favor PS5 as usual here so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Did you read the numbers you're talking about?
 
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MonarchJT

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Those same outlets are saying the frame rate holds better on the ps5 so why are you lying over a few pixels that nobody can notice?

'higher' pixels don't mean runs better? 🤡
you talking about a bug....the same bug that afflict PS5 in COD ..stop like if is an hardware problem in both case It isn't. But the thing remain the same if proper optimized the sx run basically at the same perf at higher res...and that's because the console is slightly more powerful ..there's nothing new about it . It's weird the the usual try to find everyday a new way to change the reality and push a narrative like if the PS5 can change the hardware inside it and become more powerful than it is ....why isn't bannable as spreading FUD this ?

16.67msPS5 17616 (98.59%)Xs 17524 (98.33%)

stop spreading bs the sx run at the same perf at higher res
 
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TheContact

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On ultra settings in 1080p with dlss enabled on ultra performance with a 3080, I get about 70 fps. I switched it to low settings and was getting about 110 but it looked like garbage.
 
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Bernd Lauert

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The point is comparisons aren't really well done by either. It's not all about pixel count and fps count, they should go further. FPS numbers favor PS5 as usual here so I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Did you read the numbers you're talking about?
Yes, I've seen the numbers. "As usual", PS5 pushes 0.2% more frames while XSX pushes 10% more pixels. And as usual, the Sony crew is trying to make this a Sony win. We've seen this song and dance many times. It's still embarrassing :messenger_smiling_with_eyes:
 

Rivet

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Yes, I've seen the numbers. "As usual", PS5 pushes 0.2% more frames while XSX pushes 10% more pixels. And as usual, the Sony crew is trying to make this a Sony win. We've seen this song and dance many times. It's still embarrassing :messenger_smiling_with_eyes:

Sure, like on Elden Ring or like more than 50 % of games which run and / or look better on PS5 (someone gave the summary table recently in another thread). But feel free to distort reality :messenger_winking:

At least you admit PS5 usually pushes more frames, that's a good first step. Keep it up !
 
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DenchDeckard

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Sure, like on Elden Ring or more than 50 % of games which run and / or look better on PS5 (someone linked the summary table recently in another thread). But feel free to distort reality :messenger_winking:

At least you admit PS5 usually pushes more frames, that's a good first step.
I love seeing your triggered emotes! I'm one of your biggest fans :) it felt great to add one to one of your posts. ❤
 

Bernd Lauert

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Sure, like on Elden Ring or like more than 50 % of games which run and / or look better on PS5 (someone gave the summary table recently in another thread). But feel free to distort reality :messenger_winking:

At least you admit PS5 usually pushes more frames, that's a good first step. Keep it up !
Like the silly little troll you are, you start talking about other games because the numbers are not in your favor in this game. Keep it up :messenger_smirking:

That summary table was debunked btw.
 

MonarchJT

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Sure, like on Elden Ring or like more than 50 % of games which run and / or look better on PS5 (someone gave the summary table recently in another thread). But feel free to distort reality :messenger_winking:

At least you admit PS5 usually pushes more frames, that's a good first step. Keep it up !
yep an incredible 0.2 lol
 

MonarchJT

Banned
Sure, like on Elden Ring or like more than 50 % of games which run and / or look better on PS5 (someone gave the summary table recently in another thread). But feel free to distort reality :messenger_winking:

At least you admit PS5 usually pushes more frames, that's a good first step. Keep it up !
Elden ring...will be the most unoptimized game of the year....when it will come out. If you want to be taken the least bit seriously ... you shouldn't even mention a game developed by a team like from soft, team that got help from players (like the famous Durante patch) and other teams to fix their games problem.....Art direction gods.....technical incompetent
 
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you talking about a bug....the same bug that afflict PS5 in COD ..stop like if is an hardware problem in both case It isn't. But the thing remain the same if proper optimized the sx run basically at the same perf at higher res...and that's because the console is slightly more powerful ..there's nothing new about it . It's weird the the usual try to find everyday a new way to change the reality and push a narrative like if the PS5 can change the hardware inside it and become more powerful than it is ....why isn't bannable as spreading FUD this ?

16.67msPS5 17616 (98.59%)Xs 17524 (98.33%)

stop spreading bs the sx run at the same perf at higher res
Blah blah blah bug. The game runs better on one box; accept it.

You can quote me if they fix the bug and we can see which one holds better fps.

Not sure what cod has got to do with this nor crying about bans? Get help.
 
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