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Opinion VG247: Xbox at E3 shows it finally has games, but is still struggling to match Sony in terms of wow factor.

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Game Pass is the wow factor. Imagine a very affordable service that will bring us Back4Blood, Dark Alliance, The Ascent, Forza Horizon 5, Halo: Infinite, Psychonauts 2, Scorn, Hades, 12 minutes, Aragami 2, Yakuza Like a Dragon, Age of Empires 4, Flight Simulator, Sable, etc., this year. It's insane. I don't see how any gamer doesn't agree. Only fanboys would scoff at this. What a sad existence to be that way.
 
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Bullshit. I got 100% done in about 12 hours. Then it was another four for the Plat as you need to play through NG+ (but can do so on Easy and skip all cut scenes).

I've got 31 hours in MM so it isn't bullshit at all. Your play through was about average for completing everything according to those polled on howlongtobeat.com. My play through went longer than most as I take my time with open world games. Either way, the time people invest in a game is going to vary.

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Wrong, under what rock live who wrote this article? there isn't any Sony game that hyped gamers community as much as Starfield
How do we even know Starfield will be good especially given Bethesda’s recent track record? I honestly think we should wait until we see some actual gameplay before we put it up there with the high scoring, consistent quality games.
 
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Game Pass is the wow factor. Imagine a very affordable service that will bring us Back4Blood, Battlefield 2042, Dark Alliance, The Ascent, Forza Horizon 5, Halo: Infinite, Psychonauts 2, Scorn, Hades, 12 minutes, Aragami 2, Yakuza Like a Dragon, Age of Empires 4, Flight Simulator, Sable, etc., this year. It's insane. I don't see how any gamer doesn't agree. Only fanboys would scoff at this. What a sad existence to be that way.

Agreed. Give it a year or two and we'll see every game from every publisher on Gamepass from day one.
 
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Starfield
Stalker 2
FH5

And all on Gamepass day 1.

When I see people paying 70 bucks for multiplats that run better on Xbox and are free on Gamepass makes me go wow.
Some if not most multiplatform games usually don’t even come to Gamepass. There are a few exceptions for multiplatform games, but you usually have to wait a long time for them to come to Gamepass.
 
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Agreed. Give it a year or two and we'll see every game from every publisher on Gamepass from day one.
That would be something, but I doubt we’ll see every third party game especially games like GTA6, COD or Final Fantasy 17 on day one. Maybe close to it, but Microsoft will have to pay an exorbitant amount of money to do accomplish that.
 

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From ”Xbox has no games“ to “Xbox has no wow factor”

Isn't "Xbox has no games" about the low amount of perceived quality? But anyhow, I do think Sony tend to excite more gamers with their presentations
 
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well it showed most games that i would want to play from that list. shame that it wont be soon.
 

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Funny considering there was little to no gameplay at the microsoft event but CGI trailers about the characters and story. So everyone should have been wowed, right?

Some xbox fanboys can't admit that sony makes good games so they have this no gameplay/walking sim bullshit because you happen to walk in the game. Then they turn around and fawn over the graphics of a game where you're just staring out a plane window for almost the entire game.

I absoloubtly love Sony games. I only had A PS4 last gen (well a switch too) but I practically games exclusively on it. God of War was my fav last gen, plus uncharted 4 and last of us part ii (yes I actually liked it).

But I do think that this forum has some bias.
Looks promising, but ive been saying that ever since xbox one was released. Still looks like 2022-23 is when xbox shows up.
Legit question.... What does the ps5 releasing have for the rest of the year? It's only had demon souls and R&C as true exclusives. It's not like there have been huge differences between platforms in amount of exclusives so far.

Flight sim, Forza horizon 5 and Halo is a pretty good lineup.
 
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I absoloubtly love Sony games. I only had A PS4 last gen (well a switch too) but I practically games exclusively on it. God of War was my fav last gen, plus uncharted 4 and last of us part ii (yes I actually liked it).

But I do think that this forum has some bias.

Legit question.... What does the ps5 releasing have for the rest of the year? It's only had demon souls and R&C as true exclusives. It's not like there have been huge differences between platforms in amount of exclusives so far.

Flight sim, Forza horizon 5 and Halo is a pretty good lineup.

DS, Ratchet, Spiderman, Returnal, Sackboy, All Stars and some of those third party exclusives

vs

Gears Tactics (which is just a late xbox port) and The Medium

the difference has been night and day
 
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Legit question.... What does the ps5 releasing have for the rest of the year? It's only had demon souls and R&C and Returnal as true exclusives. It's not like there have been huge differences between platforms in amount of exclusives so far.

Flight sim, Forza horizon 5 and Halo is a pretty good lineup.
fixed for u and Flight sim, Forza horizon 5 and Halo are all on Xone as well, so no true next get titles ? :p
 

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That would be something, but I doubt we’ll see every third party game especially games like GTA6, COD or Final Fantasy 17 on day one. Maybe close to it, but Microsoft will have to pay an exorbitant amount of money to do accomplish that.

They have the money to do it, so I don't see why it's not possible.
 

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I don’t really disagree - I think Sony hype is complete bullshit, but their fans definitely know how to go overboard and make everything ‘the best ever’, so you always get the sense online (if you’re not paying attention) that they have this incredible forward momentum…

I think most Xbox gamers are more interested in playing than hyping.
dude xbox fans have been hyping starfield and NO ONE knows what it is... fanboys are just as bad as each other
 
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DS, Ratchet, Spiderman, Returnal, Sackboy, All Stars and some of those third party exclusives

vs

Gears Tactics (which is just a late xbox port) and The Medium

the difference has been night and day
I think you missed the part of his comment that said “true exclusives” I think he’s talking about only on PS5 games. Which is 3 games vs 1 (timed) on Xbox right now.
 
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Xbox just needs time for people to come round. I think its sonys legacy and track record that gets people so hyped and excited. They've earned that. Once these games are out and playable, the reception towards xbox will become even more positive over time. Sony have already earned it through their consistent quality spanning over 25 years.
 
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I think you missed the part of his comment that said “true exclusives” I think he’s talking about only on PS5 games. Which is 3 games vs 1 (timed) on Xbox right now.

Figured he was just flip flipping since he then listed cross gen games below
 
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Wrong, under what rock live who wrote this article? there isn't any Sony game that hyped gamers community as much as Starfield

Why would anyone be hyped about Starfield at this time?

All we have is a name, a date that's nearly 18 months away, a CGI trailer and virtually no information about the actual game.

Personally, I am really looking forward to a new ip from Bethesda Softworks as Fallout is feeling a bit tired and it would be useful to have something else in the rotation. I am really eager to get more information about it. And if it does turn out to be a return to form for Bethesda then it’ll be a system seller for me. But it is WAY too early to be hyped about it.
 

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Isn't "Xbox has no games" about the low amount of perceived quality? But anyhow, I do think Sony tend to excite more gamers with their presentations

Isn't “Xbox has no games” about them having all their first party games in the pipeline instead of on the shelves. It’s all a bit jam tomorrow when PlayStation has jam today.

Historically there have been issues with quality consistency and variety of the Xbox first party, although this will undoubtedly change in the coming years as the pipeline starts to deliver. But they’re not quite there yet. My view at the start of this gen was PS5 at launch and XSX in '22. That’s still my view.

Of course there are plenty games to play on Xbox, there’s just not a heck of a lot of exclusive content.
 

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....and here is someone telling me how wrong I am as I predicted.
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What a pretentious post. You are claiming nothing on the ps5 come close to Forza and Flight slim on the xbox when knowing full well that this is not the case that most people will agree with. This is why you are saying someone will telling you are wrong. I present you evidence. Go watch digital foundry on ratchet and clank and open your eyes. It's the most impressive looking game to date. From material rendering to ray tracing at 60 fps. Character models rendering is second to none. Even close up show how ridiculous detail the character model is. Oh here one more little nugget, The ray tracing is rendering at a full res checkerboarding. Now tell me which game look as good as ratchet running 60 fps with full res ray tracing on xbox? Exactly none, not now and seem not yet in the future either.
 
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Look, the deal here is that nothing Microsoft showed looked better than Horizon, a cross gen game. How many can’t, or won’t see that is beyond me. The Microsoft conference was not good. It showed next to nothing that hadn't been seen before. It didn’t impress graphically compared to what Sony has out today. Finally, even if Sony releases nothing more this year, they will go toe to toe with Microsoft next year with all their 2022 releases. Call me a fanboy fuck if I care, all I’m saying is Sony set themselves up right.
 
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Tom Orry from VideoGamer, didn't realise he was still in the industry. Fuckin miss the glory days of VideoGamer.

Anyway, back on topic, Xbox yeah. I like Playground Games, they seem like good lads, Horizon 5 looks class and I trust them with Fable. Not much to say on the rest which speaks for itself.
 
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Look, the deal here is that nothing Microsoft showed looked better than Horizon, a cross gen game. How many can’t, or won’t see that is beyond me. The Microsoft conference was not good. It showed next to nothing that hadn't been seen before. It didn’t impress graphically compared to what Sony has out today. Finally, even if Sony releases nothing more this year, they will go toe to toe with Microsoft next year with all their 2022 releases. Call me a fanboy fuck if I care, all I’m saying is Sony set themselves up right.

forza horizon? its up there as one of the best looking games i've seen. they also got the coalition, who are very good in the visual department. maybe not as good as sony but they're creeping up.
 

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forza horizon? its up there as one of the best looking games i've seen. they also got the coalition, who are very good in the visual department. maybe not as good as sony but they're creeping up.
Forza did look good, I’m not downplaying it but it did not wow me the way Horizon did. Coalition didn’t show anything so until they do….
 

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Legit question.... What does the ps5 releasing have for the rest of the year? It's only had demon souls and R&C as true exclusives. It's not like there have been huge differences between platforms in amount of exclusives so far.

Flight sim, Forza horizon 5 and Halo is a pretty good lineup.
Returnal, Deathloop, Spider-Man Remastered, Astro, Destruction and the cross-gen games (miles, sackboy) don't count as real PS5 releases for some reason but then you name Horizon 5 and Halo, both cross-gens and a late port as a better lineup. Why the dishonesty? Why ignore more than half the lineup and then say they have the same amount?

I keep seeing these posts everywhere. We know why.
 

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I absoloubtly love Sony games. I only had A PS4 last gen (well a switch too) but I practically games exclusively on it. God of War was my fav last gen, plus uncharted 4 and last of us part ii (yes I actually liked it).

But I do think that this forum has some bias.

Legit question.... What does the ps5 releasing have for the rest of the year? It's only had demon souls and R&C as true exclusives. It's not like there have been huge differences between platforms in amount of exclusives so far.

Flight sim, Forza horizon 5 and Halo is a pretty good lineup.
PS5 has 3 next gen exclusive games out now demon souls, returnal, R&C, and cross gen Spider man. There are a few 3rd party maybe times exclusives for the fall, a few with question marks Horizon etc.
As of whats now Xbox has 0 exclusives. This fall xbox will have 2 Flight Sim, Forza 1 cross gen Halo
(ill throw a bone and add Flight Sim, it just falls into a weird category like truck driver sure its looks great but ah yeah its a flight sim not ace combat)
Xbox has a good line up overall just a year late.
Like I said no cap xbox shows up 2022-23.
I absoloubtly love Sony games. I only had A PS4 last gen (well a switch too) but I practically games exclusively on it. God of War was my fav last gen, plus uncharted 4 and last of us part ii (yes I actually liked it).

But I do think that this forum has some bias.

Legit question.... What does the ps5 releasing have for the rest of the year? It's only had demon souls and R&C as true exclusives. It's not like there have been huge differences between platforms in amount of exclusives so far.

Flight sim, Forza horizon 5 and Halo is a pretty good lineup.
Yeah theres a huge difference. Since launch PS5 has exclusive titles that have shown why you might want to own a ps5. You cant get those experiences anywhere else. Xbox has not, and its the reason i havent bought one yet. This fall might change that for me, Im not super excited for Flight sim or Forza.Xbox 2022-23 yeah I will be there. We'll see what sony announces for fall.