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Sales-Age UK sales week 12, 2021: Switch softwares domination.

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Monster hunter rise numbers are huge everywhere

MH best place is on nintendo consoles/handheld
 

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Monster hunter rise numbers are huge everywhere

MH best place is on nintendo consoles/handheld
Yeah....you keep thinking that. I will never play monster hunter on a system that can't bring it to it's full potential. Will be waiting on that PC port.

Still great news for Monster Hunter and Capcom.
 
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The new MH sold less than half of World using physical only data.

Seems like consoles is the real place for MH.
4 Million units worldwide on 1 platform.
UK number isn't going to do anything to the big picture of overall sales of Monster Hunter Rise since Japan alone is going to sell around 5 million units at the end.

Monster Hunter Rise on Switch is going to become the best selling monster hunter game on a single platform.
 
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Baffles me how Animal crossing has sold this much and is continuing to sell. One of the most dead 5 minutes of my life was spent trying that game.
 
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4 Million units worldwide on 1 platform.
UK number isn't going to do anything to the big picture of overall sales of Monster Hunter Rise since Japan alone is going to sell around 5 million units at the end.

Monster Hunter Rise on Switch is going to become the best selling monster hunter game on a single platform.
That exactly what I said... it is lower a lot and in UK and 1 million worldwide... I’m not sure which data are you looking at.

Half of the shipment was for Japan that shows the UK is basically what you will across the globe... I can be wrong but Japan alone won’t cover the drop in US, EU and others sales.
 
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That exactly what I said... it is lower a lot and in UK and 1 million worldwide... I’m not sure which data are you looking at.

Half of the shipment was for Japan that shows the UK is basically what you will across the globe... I can be wrong but Japan alone won’t cover the drop in US, EU and others sales.
UK is the weakest Nintendo market among top 6 big markets for Nintendo.

1. US
2. Japan
3. France
4. Germany
5. China
6. UK

Some Nintendo titles sold more in Spain than in UK despite the gap between those two markets.

MHW sold 43% more on 10M userbase while MHR sold less on 5M userbase according to gamebiz.

Using UK to measure Nintendo performance in the west is nothing but a stupidity.
 
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Looks like it only took 2 weeks for Legs Morales to run completely off of the UK boxed chart.
 

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"Rise's launch sales are 43% lower than World"

That's not good as its a huge decline from the previous entry. More becaus Monster Hunter World made the series popular. MHR should have benefited from the MHW bump.

But but it sold well on a single platform (PS4 MHW single unit sales in UK still outsold MHR) . Sure it sold well on the switch, but to Capcom they don't give a fuck since lost sales is a lost sale and 43% decline is huge.
 
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Interesting. Someone have said about Japanese gamers "have such limited taste" because of Nintendomination.
 
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People here should also take into consideration that most probably Rise`s production costs are a fraction of World`s, but I guess this does not foment console war so you keep doing your things.
 
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I think that MHR, once you count digital and physical sales and the legs it will have on Switch especially taking into account a Switch Pro this year (which sounds exciting), will be a resounding success for Capcom. I think Capcom is weighing the complexity of it, but it is likely they will be looking at a cross platform multiplayer sequel in the MH launching on all platforms next time (they have the engine ready and running on all... I think it makes sense to switch to RE engine for MHW2 or MHR2 on XSX and PS5 too yes).

it is a testament to the good design and scalability of the RE engine and the productivity of developers and artists working with it that MHR looks as good as it does on Switch and there may be more potential to extract too. It is an interesting bet that instead of trying to squeeze MHW’s MT Framework based engine they went with the RE engine instead, but it paid off.

I wonder if they could have gone further and simply made a port of MHW and made it cross platform play enabled, but the framerate delta and possibly further cuts to make it fit a 60 FPS target would have been riskier... plus it would have been a very late port and they would have not been able to prototype further MH formula QoL improvements. Again, they got a more cohesive art style and palette than MHW, I know the latter is more technically advanced and demanding (MHS has also more vegetation, collision physics, higher LOD’s, better looking and more dynamic shadows, etc...), but side by side MHW looks more of a mix of a more cartoony fantasy world and shiny CG than the unified fantasy settings in MHR. I hope MHW2 takes the design and gameplay cues from MHR (take MHR and make it 4K@60 FPS, increase vegetation density and draw distance, increase shadows resolution and make even the environment shadows dynamic, add some more collision detection and related friendly AI reactions, increase the collision mesh density for the terrain to prevent incorrect foot placement in inclines, etc... and it would look a lot better than MHW as a cohesive package).
 

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UK is the weakest Nintendo market among top 6 big markets for Nintendo.

1. US
2. Japan
3. France
4. Germany
5. China
6. UK

Some Nintendo titles sold more in Spain than in UK despite the gap between those two markets.

MHW sold 43% more on 10M userbase while MHR sold less on 5M userbase according to gamebiz.

Using UK to measure Nintendo performance in the west is nothing but a stupidity.
But we have Worldwide data that includes west... at least the launch sales are way behind World in West.
 
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I didn't find anything supporting that. Please post your references.
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MHW 5 million WW with Japan being ~2m
MHR 4 million WW with Japan being ~2m.

Is it not clear enough?

Outside Japan one sold ~2m the other sold ~3m... that is around the drop the UK is showing so it is more than certain it had similar drops in others west places... perhaps even bigger drops in some big west market.

BTW these WW figures includes digital.
 
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The new MH sold less than half of World using physical only data.

Seems like consoles is the real place for MH.
57 percent is higher than 50 per cent.
"Rise's launch sales are 43% lower than World"

That's not good as its a huge decline from the previous entry. More becaus Monster Hunter World made the series popular. MHR should have benefited from the MHW bump.

But but it sold well on a single platform (PS4 MHW single unit sales in UK still outsold MHR) . Sure it sold well on the switch, but to Capcom they don't give a fuck since lost sales is a lost sale and 43% decline is huge.

But we have Worldwide data that includes west... at least the launch sales are way behind World in West.
From the leaks we know Capcom expects 9 million sold lifetime across PC and Switch for Rise. So far it's looking like the game will beat those expectations, so they're not going to be worried at all. I'd expect the sales of Rise Switch and World PS4 to be broadly similar (Rise higher in Asia, World PS4 higher in Europe and Emerging Markets and roughly the same in North America.
 
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You are missing digital in Japan... somebody leaked the total shipment for Japan is 2m.

BTW 1.35m without digital doesn’t change anything I said lol
Yes, it does.

2 million in the first four days in Japan for both instead of this:
MHW 5 million WW with Japan being < 1m
MHR 4 million WW with Japan being ~2m.

So World shipped one million more but also had one more platform in the West to rely on. Where is this huge discrepancy you are talking about?
They both perform very strongly.
 

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Yes, it does.

2 million in the first four days in Japan for both instead of this:

So World shipped one million more but also had one more platform in the West to rely on. Where is this huge discrepancy you are talking about?
They both perform very strongly.
It doesn’t lol

4m includes the 2m shipped to Japan.
Famitsu data doesn’t include digital.

We can estimate it sold around 600k digital in Japan with Famitsu data.

If you can’t see the around 50% drop sales in west then I can’t help you.
 
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Eh? Both had two platforms for launch sales

Edit - Oh wait nvm it's not on PC yet
Neither World had PC... it launched six month later.
90% of the 5m was PS4.

But that not even the point he is trying to deny but the fact the sales are around 50% lower in west.
 
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It doesn’t lol

4m includes the 2m shipped to Japan.
Famitsu data doesn’t include digital.

We can estimate it sold around 600k digital in Japan with Famitsu data.
You said less than 1 million of MHW's 5 million came from Japan. But Famitsu shows the game sold over 1.2 million physical in Japan in its first week.
 

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You said less than 1 million of MHW's 5 million came from Japan. But Famitsu shows the game sold over 1.2 million physical in Japan in its first week.
You are right... my bad I got the digital data... I will fix my post.
It is ~3m vs ~2m in west.

World was estimated to have 600k digital... so a bit more than 1.8MB shipment in 3 days to Japan.... let’s round to 2m.
 
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Eh? Both had two platforms for launch sales
No? World was PS4 exclusive in Japan, multiplatform in the West.

Rise is completely exclusive till next year when a PC version is releasing.
It doesn’t lol

4m includes the 2m shipped to Japan.
Famitsu data doesn’t include digital.

We can estimate it sold around 600k digital in Japan with Famitsu data.

If you can’t see the around 50% drop sales in west then I can’t help you.
Where is your hard data for this?

You can't prove a 50% drop off, nor can you prove Japanese numbers, because the data isn't available yet. If otherwise then post it.

All we know is that MHW sold 5 million in the first 3 days and MHR sold 4 million copies.
No matter how hard you try to twist this, those are very good numbers, while you are making it seem like there is a huge discrepancy even though there is not.
 
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No? World was PS4 exclusive in Japan, multiplatform in the West.

Rise is completely exclusive till next year when a PC version is releasing.

Where is your hard data for this?

You can't proof a 50% drop off, nor can you prove japanease numbers, because the data isn't available yet. If otherwise then post it.

All we know is that MHW sold 5 million in the first 3 days and MHR sold 4 million copies.
No matter how hard you try to twist this, those are very good numbers, while you are making it seem like there is a huge discrepancy even though there is not.
Dude do the math.
We already have all the data and World shipped 50% more units in West.... or Rise shipped 34% less units... you choose.
 
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Everyone buys digital now, that's at least how you explain why PS5 games don't chart in the top 30 in Japan. At least stay consistent :messenger_winking:
Digital is indeed a good part of Monster Hunter shipment.
Japan is a 3:1 case for example for both Switch and PS4 MH version at launch.

And people keep saying in Famitsu thread that digital is not a thing in Japan lol
 
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Monster hunter rise numbers are huge everywhere

MH best place is on nintendo consoles/handheld
The last Nintendo consoles to get MH was the Wii and Wii U. And the numbers are tiny verses MH on the ps4.

When Sony was selling big HH numbers in Japan it also sold better on their handheld. The series started on PlayStation and has a big presence on PlayStation. If they were to choose 2 platforms only they'd go with pc and ps.
 
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You are right... my bad I got the digital data... I will fix my post.
It is ~3m vs ~2m in west.

World was estimated to have 600k digital... so a bit more than 1.8MB shipment in 3 days to Japan.... let’s round to 2m.
Yes I think 2 Vs 3 million in the West sounds more likely. I don't think Rise will catch World outside Asia, but it'll still have good legs (especially if it gets promoted alongside the new revision).
 

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ethomaz ethomaz literally pulling data from his ass.
Dude do the math.
Actual data (Capcom and Famitsu).

Worldwide 4m = Japan ~2m + West ~2m
Worldwide 5m = Japan <2m + West ~3m

The UK drop is not exception it just in line with the west shipment drop.

I’m not sure what are you doing in a sales threads when you can’t accept the reality... I can’t change the real data to fit your wishes.
 
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But that not even the point he is trying to deny but the fact the sales are around 50% lower in west.
By your own estimates, it would be 33,3% less, not 50%.
Your math is mixed up.
Dude do the math.
Actual data (Capcom and Famitsu).

Worldwide 4m = Japan ~2m + West ~2m
Worldwide 5m = Japan <2m + West ~3m

The UK drop is not exception it just in line with the west shipment drop.
Neither is the UK the whole world nor do we have Japanese numbers yet.
 
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By your own estimates, it would be 33,3% less, not 50%.
Your math is mixed up.

Neither is the UK the whole world nor do we have Japanese numbers yet.
Because it was fixed with Woopah post... World sold 1.2m retail + ~620k digital in Japan at launch.
You said less than 1 million of MHW's 5 million came from Japan. But Famitsu shows the game sold over 1.2 million physical in Japan in its first week.

BTW we do have Japanese numbers already.
Western drop is indeed real and not just because UK (that is not the exception) but because the numbers for west are way lower.

I keep using actual data you can keep the denial phase for yourself.
 
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The new MH sold less than half of World using physical only data.

Seems like consoles is the real place for MH.

Whynotboth.jpg?

Capcom seems to be doing this optimally for themselves considering those games can be played for hundreds of hours.

They released world for PS4/Xbox/pc where it sold a lot and still keeps selling.
Now instead of releasing to same audience they hit a new one with smaller overlap.

I'd bet MH for PS5/Series X is already in early development so it can release in 3rd/4th year of life of those platforms to much bigger userbases than dying last games+few milions of new consoles have now.
 
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I can’t change the real data to fit your wishes.
Dude, you must chill in wonderland, as you purposefully got the math twisted to fit your narrative (3 million to 2 million is a 33,3% drop, not a 50% drop.), you think the UK numbers are applicable to the whole western world and you claim there is Japanese data even though there isn't yet.
You are just estimating based on the 4 million shipment number and UK sales data.

To top it off, you first thought MHW did less than a million in Japan and talked about it doing 4 million in the West. Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because your math would make sense in that scenario (4 million to 2 million) and actually work in favor of your narrative?

Even at worst, meaning you are correct with your estimates, it would be a 33,3% drop in sales and not 50%. Which conversely would mean that you are wrong either way.
 
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Dude, you must chill in wonderland, as you purposefully got the math twisted to fit your narrative (3 million to 2 million is a 33,3% drop, not a 50% drop.), you think the UK numbers are applicable to the whole western world and you claim there is Japanese data even though there isn't yet.
You are just estimating based on the 4 million shipment number and UK sales data.
lol there is Japanese data already.
C'mon.
 
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The new MH sold less than half of World using physical only data.

Seems like consoles is the real place for MH.
If you mean a more capable console for running a such title at its best potential then yes. Going from World to Rise is a severe downgrade.
 
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