Mr Moose
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Elon Musk threatens to sue Microsoft over Twitter data
The multi-billionaire was responding to the tech giant's plan to drop Twitter from its advertising platform.
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Twitter removed as sharing option on Xbox (API costs $42,000 a month now)
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Elog
Member
Twitter was profitable just before COVID hit. The reduced marketing/ad spend during the COVID years had a very large negative financial impact on them.
Elon is taking the complete piss at the moment - hard to understand what he is trying to achieve and why. It seems mostly as if servicing all that debt he used to acquire Twitter is putting everything in a negative spiral where short term cash inflow is prioritized even if it ends up hurting the platform longer term.
Elon is taking the complete piss at the moment - hard to understand what he is trying to achieve and why. It seems mostly as if servicing all that debt he used to acquire Twitter is putting everything in a negative spiral where short term cash inflow is prioritized even if it ends up hurting the platform longer term.
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Unknown?
Member
I agree but at least it isn't a government agency any more. Google and Facebook need to go away much more. It's all mind manipulation.
Unknown?
Member
Yeah, old twitter, with their manipulative algorithms and shadow banning. So good! The one thing I will commend Elon Musk on is he open sourced that shit. Closed source = cess pit.
You are correct. Twitter is slowly killing itself with the amount of companies dropping advertisements and now this.
found the person paying for Twitter blue
LOL..Twitter is currently at is worst but at least there is so called "Freedom of speech" now
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Its a couple hundred thousand a month for large enterprise like Microsoft. Twitter needs content to keep people engaged. Twitter benefits as much as sony and Microsoft from the content.
Twitter's new API plan costs up to $2.5 million per year
Enterprise API packages will go from free to starting at $42,000 per month for its lowest subscription tier.
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Elog
Member
That it has become open source is great. Twitter is much much worse now though since those that actually are trying to manipulate us can do it without checks and balances. It is absolutely atrocious at the moment. Authoritarian foreign interests (primarily Russia and China) are having a field day.
gothmog
Gold Member
Some people's heads are gonna explode. Which boot do you lick going forward?
Astray
Gold Member
Pricing is very high for what Twitter offers in terms of reach.
Not sure if it's worth losing a feature though.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I'm not sure I would say that Twitter was ever good but people like it so who am I to judge?
Elon has just accelerated what was going to happen to Twitter anyway. They were either going to have to go the route of google and Facebook and become large scale sellers of creepy information about people or they were going to have to start charging for their services. The days of for-profit startups building their companies on the back of free Twitter services was going to end eventually.
Twitter should allow the API functionality to work for users who pay for Twitter Blue for companies that don't want to pay for access on behalf of their customers. That would be a good middle ground.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
People also like to smoke pot, drink bleach, and watch Twilight. People are retarded.
Let's be honest. Twitter, along with most social media, should shut down. TikTok, Twitter, Tumblr - shut it all down. We would be better off.
TheRedRiders
Member
Musk’s desperate attempt to increase Twitter’s revenue and income since half the ad sponsors have disappeared.
feynoob
Banned
Elon's musk new subscription fucked up a lot of companies, due to the verification impersonation during that process, with some losing alot of money from their stock.
Also, check recommendation process for the new Twitter. It's p2view.
ReBurn
Gold Member
If companies like Microsoft were the only way content reached Twitter I would agree with you. But Twitter gets lots of content from tens of millions of users for free every day. There's a benefit to Microsoft to able to offer Xbox users a way to share content outside of their network as well. If they can integrate with gamers' socials it's an incentive for people to buy into their platform. $2.5 million per year sounds reasonable for a company the size of Microsoft.Its a couple hundred thousand a month for large enterprise like Microsoft. Twitter needs content to keep people engaged. Twitter benefits as much as sony and Microsoft from the content.
Twitter's new API plan costs up to $2.5 million per year
Enterprise API packages will go from free to starting at $42,000 per month for its lowest subscription tier.
The caveat should be that Twitter should allow Twitter Blue subscribers to use Twitter API services through third party devices like Xbox. Then customers are essentially paying to enable what Microsoft doesn't want to pay for.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I don't know that we would be better off in every way, but we would in some. These platforms can be useful. They're generally not used in beneficial ways. People have always been stupid. These platforms make that more visible
They don't need the large package for xbox.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Ive searched the XboxShare hashtag multiple multiple times when looking for good Gears of War MP footage.......that shit aint worth price of admission even if it was "free advertising".
People are acting like all these people who use XboxShare have millions or even thousands of followers.......most of the people who use(d) XboxShare are literal nobodies, their screenshots and videos have near 0 engagement.....its not free advertising because no one is seeing it.
MS can use that few million dollars to bolster their own social media presence and it would be worth more.
The whole feature was more a goodwill thing than any sort of oh hey people are gonna search the XboxShare hashtag and we are gonna be advertising our platform.
Hell ive seen more engagement for people screenshots on the dashboard clubs.
MarkMe2525
Member
You very well may be right, but where are you getting your info?
Edit: So I'm going to assume, since you haven't answered while still being active today on gaf, that you just made that up. Or maybe, I'm on your ignore list
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You realize many of these big companies were already paying to advertise on Twitter?
Elon says a lot of silly stuff. Of course he has no grounds to sue
Demon2blades
Member
He's also quite smart but I guess we'll see what comes out of it .
It's going to go as well as his case against Twitter
Thirty7ven
Banned
Good fuck Twitter and fuck Elon Musk.
They have no issue giving millions to terrorist organizations like BLM but will not pay a much cheaper API fee.
Xbox Issues Statement As Twitter Gets Disabled For Game DVR On Console
"We have had to disable the ability..."www.purexbox.com
This will probably be removed from PS5 soon too, as Sony isn’t even paying the $1,000 a month for company verification anymore.
Tsaki
Member
Quite the intelligent response.
Was Microsoft paying for ads on Twitter so they can use it? It's like saying: "People shouldn't pay for tickets in stadiums since there are ads all over the stadium billboards."
Raven77
Member
Like every content sharing platform on the planet? You guys need to realize the API is going to cost money because it costs Twitter money.
Virtue signaling companies will virtue signal...
Guess they hate that Twitter isn't ultra one sided now.
Oh The Travesty
Banned
Oh no, the poor megacorporation that hates your guts and sees you as the personification of a wallet to be sucked dry is being asked to pay a commensurate fee for a service!? What a disaster! Poor Microsoft, they're just a poor megacorp, please have some mercy Elon!
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Which one doesn’t belong?
Kerotan
Member
Nintendo need a PS app that uploads all you your screens and vids to it.
DemonGamerTTT
Member
This is pennies for those companies, but IF they remove the functionality that will be a power move.
It’s like they're saying that they don't need Twitter for their business.
It’s like they're saying that they don't need Twitter for their business.
FBeeEye
Banned
Twitter was an activist charity and a SuperPAC prior to Elon coming on board. Now they're just another tech company that needs to make a profit.
Honey Bunny
Member
Do you reckon they'd still be dropping it if it was still under old management? Or is it political?
X-Wing
Member
Xbox Issues Statement As Twitter Gets Disabled For Game DVR On Console
"We have had to disable the ability..."
This will probably be removed from PS5 soon too, as Sony isn’t even paying the $1,000 a month for company verification anymore.
I thought it was removed a long time ago?
And fuck Elon Musk and Twitter altogether.
Ronin_7
Banned
Wonder how much Sony is paying lol
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Alternatively: It had to go away when it was still a communist woke shithole. Now it has a chance to not suck.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Traditionally, the arrangement is supposed to be that you "pay" for the social media service, not with your own money, but with your private data and your attention span, which the social media company can then monetize via targeted advertising and other related activities.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Thats your take away from this.....virtue signaling?
I dont think that means what you think it means my friend.
P.S The XboxApp can still share your DVR moments to twitter, its not like Microsoft is boycotting Twitter or something.
They will likely work around paying twitter by using Edge soon enough anyway.
DaGwaphics
Member
Free API access is available for all kinds of things, not sure what you are on about there.
API events that upload data to the social media platform really shouldn't have a charge. API events that make use of data from the social media platform I can see having a charge.
Twitter should want as much data uploaded to the platform as possible as that is what they monetize. If the consoles are pulling data from Twitter feeds that's one thing, if they are only making it easier for individual users to upload content, that's another.
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
This seems like a really dumb decision by Elon
it'll just stop platforms from using Twitter at all
it'll just stop platforms from using Twitter at all
X-Wing
Member
Thats your take away from this.....virtue signaling?
I dont think that means what you think it means my friend.
P.S The XboxApp can still share your DVR moments to twitter, its not like Microsoft is boycotting Twitter or something.
They will likely work around paying twitter by using Edge soon enough anyway.
When you walk around with a hammer in your hand everything looks like a nail or something.
It's not out of the ordinary at all for companies to charge for commercial API access. However, social media platforms typically do not charge for API access involving posting to their platform, since obviously a low friction environment is vital for social media.
The more companies and users refuse to pay up and go elsewhere, the less value Twitter has.
The more companies and users refuse to pay up and go elsewhere, the less value Twitter has.
FearlessBelgian
Member
Love Elon, Go twitter.
Yep, everything is a culture war battle point if you want it to be.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
And its legit exhausting having conversations with these kinds of people.
DaGwaphics
Member
They don't want the search bots scraping their content, I assume they figure that the search companies can build their own database of information with that data.