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Twitch Used Ninja’s Old Channel To Promote A Porn Stream

DeepEnigma

Gold Member


Tyler 'Ninja' Blevins has posted a video on Twitter calling out Twitch for using his old channel to promote over streamers, including a channel that streamed pornography.

At the start of August, Ninja announced that he was moving to Mixer, Microsoft's streaming platform. The hugely famous streamer had streamed on Twitch for more than eight years and built an audience for more than 14 million followers. Since the move, Twitch has been using Ninja's channel and audience to point viewers to other streamers.

As Ninja points out in the video posted on Twitter, Twitch hasn't done this with any of the other channels of streamers who have left the platform.



"There have been some things going on that, you know, we let slide," Ninja says in the video. "They were kind of annoying little jabs we felt like, but it didn't matter, we wanted to stay professional." This includes Twitch removing the channel's verification checkmark.

Since Ninja's post, his channel on Twitch has gone offline and is no longer promoting other channels.


Twitch CEO Emmett Shear apologised to Ninja in a series of tweets, saying "Our community comes to Twitch looking for live content. To help ensure they find great, live channels we've been experimenting with showing recommended content across Twitch, including on streamer's pages that are offline. This helps all streamers as it creates new community connections. However, the lewd content that appeared on [Ninja's] offline channel page grossly violates our terms of service, and we've permanently suspended the account in question.

"On a more personal note, I apologize want to apologize directly to Ninja that this happened. It wasn't our intent, but it should not have happened. No excuses."

At a time when Mixer has never looked more competitive, Twitch does not need the bad publicity that's come from this incident.


 

iconmaster

Banned
1) Be a little slow to shut down porn on channel with millions of followers
2) Apologize profusely
3) ???
4) Profit
 

Mista

Banned
Twitch is run by 12 years old? That's childish and pathetic

He left our platform? Okay, we'll show him what happens to whoever leaves
 

Shifty

Gold Member
I picture Twitch here as a film noir dame furiously grinding a cigarette butt into a picture of Ninja.

Though that might be a little too classy.

Ill just leave this here...


Purple haired muppet
If you have something to say about the guy then perhaps you should simply say it.

These drop-and-run "just so yall know" character assasination posts are a part of GAF that should have been excised to Era along with the rest of the passive-aggressive garbage.
 
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I picture Twitch here as a film noir dame furiously grinding a cigarette butt into a picture of Ninja.

Though that might be a little too classy.


If you have something to say about the guy then perhaps you should simply say it.

These drop-and-run "just so yall know" character assasination posts are a part of GAF that should have been excised to Era along with the rest of the passive-aggressive garbage.

I'm sorry your hero is purple haired and rages while playing fortnite with kids.
 

Katsura

Member
Good to see Twitch isn't bitter and is staying classy. Perhaps if they started enforcing their rules equally, they could have avoided a lot of this...
 
I'm sorry your hero is purple haired and rages while playing fortnite with kids.
I really don't get this kinda logic: How's defending a multi-million dollar company, ran by two dozen, cunty, petty clowns, better than defending one purple haired individual clown? I don't need to defend or like this dude to shake my head at disbelief and disappointment that a "legit" social media, streaming company can act this stupid and petty towards one of their (ex) users...

The fact that Ninja screaming at kids while playing a video game bothers you (more of a big deal to you) than this is, kinda tells me your moral compass in life is a bit skewed.
 
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I really don't get this kinda logic: How's defending a multi-million dollar company, ran by two dozen, cunty, petty clowns, better than defending one purple haired individual clown? I don't need to defend or like this dude to shake my head at disbelief and disappointment that a "legit" social media, streaming company can act this stupid and petty towards one of their (ex) users...

The fact that Ninja screaming at kids while playing a video game bothers you (more of a big deal to you) than this is, kinda tells me your moral compass in life is a bit skewed.

I didn't defend twitch wtf? This whole situation is hilarious, one "cunty, petty clown" being mean to another "cunty, petty clown." Now all of a sudden my moral compass is wrong .... :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Tumle

Member
I didn't defend twitch wtf? This whole situation is hilarious, one "cunty, petty clown" being mean to another "cunty, petty clown." Now all of a sudden my moral compass is wrong .... :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:
No I think in general peoples obsession with things they don’t like, to the point of them actually raging about it or even spending time on it is unhealthy and shows more about that persons character and there state of mind.

Things that are actually damaging or have negative consequences for other people should of course be discussed. But just being a hater because you don’t like something is just... stupid..
 
I didn't defend twitch wtf? This whole situation is hilarious, one "cunty, petty clown" being mean to another "cunty, petty clown." Now all of a sudden my moral compass is wrong .... :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Ugh! You're missing the point dude, its not "one" petty clown vs another petty clown... It's a company that many people rely on for revenue, privacy and trust vs an individual, and YES! by simply dismissing this as "Fuck Ninja that ass clown! He's a shit head anyway" you are by default standing up for the opposing party, that's how this works...

Here, let me try to put this in a way that may help you see the bigger picture:

If Ninja tweeted some shit about you tomorrow, regardless how popular he is, regardless even if his name is considered a "brand" , chances are Ninja's negative lies/fabrications etc about you, wouldn't effect your life in any significant way... They wouldn't even hold water Since you're not affiliated with him and there is no proof that he's affiliated with you in any way.

Say you are one of the thousands of Twitch Streamers, you've been streaming for couple of years now, you have a decent, modest fan base and subscribers, not even close to Ninja's number of subs and viewers etc. but albeit, you like streaming, you go on Twitch, do your thing, your small community likes your content, you put in a lot of time, effort and energy in your streams and heck, it even makes you a decent amount of pocket change at the end of the month. This scenario I just described, is lot more common among Twitch streamers than you'd think, it may not be you literally, but there are many out there that can relate...

So now, lets say for whatever reason you have a small or a big falling out with Twitch, Not only they have the power to ban you unjustly, they apparently also have the ability to humiliate you and tarnish your reputation on the internet. A company you put your precious time and energy and trust in, and also rely on for some income, can not only be unfair to you, they can turn on you apparently in the most petty, childish, shitty way! See that ain't cool. and this type of Behavior by Twitch can effect thousands of gamer/streamers out there, whilst Ninja screaming at some random, anonymous kid playing fortnite, doesn't have as much pull or effect on the masses as you may think, and I wont buy the "he's a role model to kids and his bad behavior can have negative affect on thousands of 12 year olds who watch him etc" argument.
 
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Shifty

Gold Member
I didn't defend twitch wtf? This whole situation is hilarious, one "cunty, petty clown" being mean to another "cunty, petty clown." Now all of a sudden my moral compass is wrong .... :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:
So lemme get this straight.

I call you out for dropping a vitriolic PSA-post and you project some Ninja fanboyism onto me because "how could anyone sane not hate him" or some silliness.

Then someone else does the same to you with Twitch, and you're surprised?!

 
So lemme get this straight.

I call you out for dropping a vitriolic PSA-post and you project some Ninja fanboyism onto me because "how could anyone sane not hate him" or some silliness.

Then someone else does the same to you with Twitch, and you're surprised?!


So making fun of Ninja's behaviour is vitriolic? Where did I say everyone should hate him? Guess I didn't tow the line in this thread.
 

Shifty

Gold Member
So making fun of Ninja's behaviour is vitriolic?
Don't get ahead of yourself, posting a character assassination PSA isn't clever enough to be 'making fun'.

It is vitriolic though-
vit·ri·ol·ic
Bitterly scathing; caustic

Where did I say everyone should hate him?
The part where you dropped a "hey guys remember this guy is ragescum" video and assumed the first person to call you out on it was doing so out of fanboyism?

You don't need to say something explicitly for it to be blatantly obvious.

Guess I didn't tow the line in this thread.
This thread is immaterial. If I see someone digging up old-ass dirt for the sake of pulling a shit-and-run then I'm going to call it out, because pre-meltdown GAF was utterly cancerous with that behaviour and I see no reason why its return should be tolerated.
 
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Closer

Member
These drop-and-run "just so yall know" character assasination posts are a part of GAF that should have been excised to Era along with the rest of the passive-aggressive garbage.

This sounds just like Persona 4, where GAF needs to accept shadow GAF in order to grow as something else.
 

Spukc

Member
even if i don't really follow twitch or care about watching people play a game besides checking out how the game plays, And actively avoiding people that just won't stfu while playing.
Hating on someone being successful is really such a bitch attitude and you should really think about your own life instead of hating on others.
 

ThatGamingDude

I am a virgin
Twitch is run by incels. That's why women do whatever they want on there while guys get banned for the pettiest shit.
Well, if you consider Mary Kish an incel /shrug


Ugh! You're missing the point dude, its not "one" petty clown vs another petty clown... It's a company that many people rely on for revenue, privacy and trust vs an individual, and YES! by simply dismissing this as "Fuck Ninja that ass clown! He's a shit head anyway" you are by default standing up for the opposing party, that's how this works...

Here, let me try to put this in a way that may help you see the bigger picture:

If Ninja tweeted some shit about you tomorrow, regardless how popular he is, regardless even if his name is considered a "brand" , chances are Ninja's negative lies/fabrications etc about you, wouldn't effect your life in any significant way... They wouldn't even hold water Since you're not affiliated with him and there is no proof that he's affiliated with you in any way.

Say you are one of the thousands of Twitch Streamers, you've been streaming for couple of years now, you have a decent, modest fan base and subscribers, not even close to Ninja's number of subs and viewers etc. but albeit, you like streaming, you go on Twitch, do your thing, your small community likes your content, you put in a lot of time, effort and energy in your streams and heck, it even makes you a decent amount of pocket change at the end of the month. This scenario I just described, is lot more common among Twitch streamers than you'd think, it may not be you literally, but there are many out there that can relate...

So now, lets say for whatever reason you have a small or a big falling out with Twitch, Not only they have the power to ban you unjustly, they apparently also have the ability to humiliate you and tarnish your reputation on the internet. A company you put your precious time and energy and trust in, and also rely on for some income, can not only be unfair to you, they can turn on you apparently in the most petty, childish, shitty way! See that ain't cool. and this type of Behavior by Twitch can effect thousands of gamer/streamers out there, whilst Ninja screaming at some random, anonymous kid playing fortnite, doesn't have as much pull or effect on the masses as you may think, and I wont buy the "he's a role model to kids and his bad behavior can have negative affect on thousands of 12 year olds who watch him etc" argument.
There's some...odd...sort of thinking in your piece, IMO.

Saying "Fuck some ass clown," does not default you to a side; things are not that black and white. You can still hate someone AND the company they are/were working for, for a multitude of different reasons. Sticking people to a black and white sort of thinking projects your interpretation of the situation and limits possibilities for others, and brings it to an "Us versus Them," mentality. That's not great for discussion.

Your analogy is also skewed; the random person that Ninja would shitpost about isn't relying on Ninja for income, and it very well COULD affect their job. Recently had a friend get pulled in HR because she got into a high profile debate on Facebook and there was some words said by certain individuals that got her company Facebook slammed with negative posts (She still kept her job, she knew once people took that step she'd get called in; manager was cool with it).

When it comes to someone's private property, as Twitch is property, there's not much in the way of justice. They're a business, and as long as they act within the law, they're fine. It may be a poor look, but there's no laws against poor looks.
It's also their playground, if you don't play by their rules, they can and will ban you. Private property is not a forum for free speech.

Also, Ninja doesn't need Twitch to have made it big. In fact, anyone who uses a major content streaming platform doesn't. It's incredibly easy to set up a streaming server and drop in something like JWPlayer and have people watch you stream outside their platform. Ninja also does not solely make his money of the subscriber content from Twitch, and with that could have 100% started his own website


While I do believe you have more empathy than I do towards streamers and content creators, I don't believe that anyone should really be given sympathy for making a bad choice in what they do in their free time, even if they do pour a ton of effort into it for little gain. To me, that would say you're putting your energy towards the wrong things.

Fuck Ninja, and fuck Twitch, both are incredibly stupid. Ninja at least is making a smart move and distancing himself from a platform that's growing more of a negative image these days and is positioning himself to be more fluid in his broadcasting and other contracts.

From a business to business stand point, Twitch didn't do shit wrong and having Ninja act solemn about it is stupid. If you're winding down a channel in a broadcasting network, you're probably going to run more adds for other channels that are in your broadcasting network and point customers there.
Ninja should have tried to make an exit plan with Twitch and pay them to run adds for his other platform, or just have him pay to redirect to his new content, or a multitude of other things. He's prolly got lawyers and brand managers and such, it sounds like he needs to change his staff or get staff for his brand if he's falling off the truck that hard then pointing a finger at Twitch.
 

ThatGamingDude

I am a virgin
Community marketing manager does not make day to day decisions with how the company is run. And SanFran, all we need to know why they do what they do, when they do.

:messenger_smirking: :messenger_ok:
Managers usually do have some say in how their department is run; companies are made up of departments, no?
In my experience in larger companies, Brass usually only gives out the directives and the departments figure out the pathing to it. Depends on the company though, I've been in an environment (That I swiftly left) where Brass bowed their head to managers and boy, was that a cluster fuck.
 

Coconutt

Member
Twitch is run by incels. That's why women do whatever they want on there while guys get banned for the pettiest shit.

Definitely some exceptions in there, DSP still streams on there I believe in spite of all the stuff he's pulled.
 
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