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[samoilaaa]

Seriosuly , in 3 years no news of the game other than typical PR bullshit like " the development is going great " or " the game looks great , playground is doing a great job "

Im a huge rpg fan ( fable is one of my fav series of all time ) and to not have any news on fable and avowed is killing me , Obsidian keeps saying soon for 2 years now

Not a word on the type of game it will be , what mechanics it might use , i understand that making cgi videos costs money but nothing is stoping them from releasing articles where they can talk about the progress of the game , if after 3 years you cant say anything that means that even now you dont have a clear vision of the game you are going to make , that means that you have no faith in all that work you have been doing and that it might be scrapped

 

[TintoConCasera]

SMT V didn't show shit for longer than that and it's an awesome game.

 

[feynoob]

Games take time. Things don't always go to the plan. Cyberpunk 2077 took like 7 years to make.
It's time for gamers to understand how development works.

 

[IDKFA]

It's clearly a long way off and was shown off way too early, but there is a chance the final product will worth the wait.

 

[samoilaaa]

Games take time. Things don't always go to the plan. Cyberpunk 2077 took like 7 years to make.
It's time for gamers to understand how development works.

i understand perfectly how development works but nothing is stopping them to talk more with the community

 

[Team Andromeda]

And yet nothing is said about Prime 4, which couldn't even manage a trailer *rollseyes*

 

[winjer]

If the rumors leaking out about this game are true, it might be in development hell.

 

[TintoConCasera]

nothing is stopping them to talk more with the community

Nothing is pushing them to do so either. Look at Hi-Fi Rush, they didn't show it until release and the game seems to be great.

 

[ManaByte]

Remember when they showed games like Spider-Man and God of War at like 3 or 4 E3s in a row? No one questioned the games then.

 

[GymWolf]

I have a bit of trust because i like fable and the forza team know his shit (with racing games).

It was never based on something concrete, just wishful thinking.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Wasn't there a rumor the game had been rebooted? Or am i mistaking it for something else?

 

[The Cockatrice]

My dude, are you new to gaming?

 

[RoboFu]

I’m sure development has been rebooted since the then. MS seems to have an issue with either too much micro managing or not enough.

If I were to guess they probably tried/are trying to rely too much on focus groups and consultants for their quality assessments.

 

[Riky]

It was CGI teaser that the game was coming, they were still hiring, it takes longer than 3 years to make an AAA game from scratch with a new studio, same with Perfect Dark. Late 2024 or 2025 is when you would realistically expect to see those games.
Maybe we see something at E3.

 

[Little Chicken]

How much of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom have we seen?

 

[feynoob]

i understand perfectly how development works but nothing is stopping them to talk more with the community

They will do when they feel like it's ready.
Gamers these days are hostile to the developers. Look the shit 343i got from their community.

 

[Jimmyisback]

Microsoft execs want to show off the game for a long time now but Playground said No. Just trust in playground games. They haven't had a miss yet.

 

[feynoob]

Wasn't there a rumor the game had been rebooted? Or am i mistaking it for something else?

That was fake 4chan rumor.

 

[Mattyp]

Big RPGs in general these days seem to need a 5 year development time across all developers, is that bloated? Who knows. We’ll see how quickly they get Avowed out the door as one of the quicker teams.

 

[zomboden]

I think more games should do shadow drops. Just show nothing and then do a trailer + release right after or a trailer + release within like a month of the trailer or less.

When you show trailers with no release dates and then next year you show a new trailer with no release date, then you show a trailer with a release date, then you delay the game, then you delay it again, then you delay it again. It really deflates hype.

 

[reksveks]

Don't worry about games marketing cycles and don't pre-order them.

The game might be good or shit but thinking about it at this point feels like a waste of time.

 

[azertydu91]

Remember when they showed games like Spider-Man and God of War at like 3 or 4 E3s in a row? No one questioned the games then.

I'm not sure about that the first GOW reboot was announced 2 years prior to its release, Ragnarok was announced at the reveal of the ps5 I believe and came out last year.And spiderman was also revealed 2 years prior to its release...
In comparison we have seen less of Hellblade, Everwild,State of Decay 3, Fable, Perfect Dark than GOW or Spidey,some of them even released during the same time window.
A better example would've been the last guardian.
So in comparison waiting 2 years between a reveal and a release and waiting 3 years to get anything else than a CGI teaser.

 

[Ar¢tos]

I think the industry, in general, has a problem of premature annunciation.

 

[DragoonWalker]

OP's "problem" is what's wrong with the games culture today: games announced way too early timed to the needs of investors/corporate spreadsheets, empty hype cycles back and forth between creators and consumers that only build up to disappointment, money and time studios have to set aside to create some vertical slice or in development showcase that years later turn out to be nothing like the game, 24/7/365 nonstop news breeding a lack of patience in gamers who think they have a right to studio going ons, etc.

Game was announced with a CGI teaser that had zero substance to it = game wasn't even in development at that point. If it was announced with gameplay and 3 years later nothing you might have something to worry about...

 

[Beechos]

Screw fable where the hell is hellblade 2. That better be ms big holiday release or feb/mar 24 early year release. Its like if that game has been forgotten.

 

[Punished Miku]

I havent had a full night's sleep in nearly 3 years ....

 

[Black_Stride]

Dont AAA games have a ~5 year dev cycle in general.
So if a CGI teaser was shown 3 years ago.
I wouldnt actually expect the game for another year or two.


But let the concern ensue!

 

[Rickyiez]

You can't deny that MS is terrible in generating hype.

If the game is not ready within the 3 years, then don't announce anything at all. Look at Bloodborne, it was shown as Project Beast in the initial announcement which got me buying a PS4 without any interest of other games back then. One year later it was released, and that is how you make people jumping into your system.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

desperation.

 

[Saber]

Its sad really. I don't even know how much of different the game is.
The first one wasn't much of a big deal, but it was very fun and cheesy game. I just wish they showed something soon instead of a mere teaser.

 

[ExcitableBoy]

Microsoft announce their big games way way too early.

No game should be announced more than 12 months before release date IMO.

 

[Rest]

Games take time. Things don't always go to the plan. Cyberpunk 2077 took like 7 years to make.
It's time for gamers to understand how development works.

Are you including the post release development time in that 7 year figure?

 

[Mr Moose]

Elder Scrolls 6 and Dead Island 2:

 

[cireza]

Why is there any reason to believe otherwise ? No information means no information. Anything else is subjective interpretation from people.

 

[PJX]

i understand perfectly how development works but nothing is stopping them to talk more with the community

Why should they? Shall I show you what happens when developers talk to the gaming community? It doesn't end nice at all so I don't blame them for not showing anything at all. Blame the fickle gamers who want to nitpick at a game that is still in development.

 

[Spaceman292]

How much of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom have we seen?

We've seen a release date

 

[Gojiira]

Remember when they showed games like Spider-Man and God of War at like 3 or 4 E3s in a row? No one questioned the games then.

Thats not radio silence like the OP is complaining about.

 

[kyussman]

Come on man,they just released a short thing to say we are making a new Fable game......then they went away and made it.Three years ain't long enough for a big game like this anyway,I wouldn't expect to see anything yet.One of the main issues with media these days is that not enough time is taken to make it good......just look at the absolute shit Disney spits out onto Disney+ because they have to keep adding content(urrghh).Let them make the fucking game.

 

[emivita]

Seriosuly , in 3 years no news of the game other than typical PR bullshit like " the development is going great " or " the game looks great , playground is doing a great job "

Im a huge rpg fan ( fable is one of my fav series of all time ) and to not have any news on fable and avowed is killing me , Obsidian keeps saying soon for 2 years now

Not a word on the type of game it will be , what mechanics it might use , i understand that making cgi videos costs money but nothing is stoping them from releasing articles where they can talk about the progress of the game , if after 3 years you cant say anything that means that even now you dont have a clear vision of the game you are going to make , that means that you have no faith in all that work you have been doing and that it might be scrapped

Because people like to dream? And specifically, Fable fans are still dreaming since Fable 1.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Vaporware just like Avowed and Everwild

 

[feynoob]

Are you including the post release development time in that 7 year figure?

Entire time frame.
This the date for the teaser.

 

[demigod]

Don't worry samoilaaa , phil has you covered. https://www.dualshockers.com/xboxs-phil-spencer-dont-want-to-show-trailer-things-2-3-years-away/

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

How much of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom have we seen?

more than this. That is for sure

 

[Tell’em Keb]

Dear, Obsidian, if you can hear me, please reach out the community to let them know you are alright. That Fable is alright. The community wants to know. They need hope. Their faith is being tested. Some of them are beginning to question your love. If you don’t give them a sign soon, the doubt will creep into their simple minds. Their fickle adoration may sour to become nerd rage and they will fill the voids in their hearts with insufferable noise. Silence does this to a community. Show them mercy, Obsidian. Restore their feeble spirits with purpose. A tweet to steady their resolve. Amen.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Remember when they showed games like Spider-Man and God of War at like 3 or 4 E3s in a row? No one questioned the games then.

Both of those games were only announced two years before they released though…and they were announced with gameplay

 

[SmokedMeat]

Why doesn’t this question asked about Metroid Prime 4? How long has that been? Four or five years now?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Remember when they showed games like Spider-Man and God of War at like 3 or 4 E3s in a row? No one questioned the games then.

This ain't chief. be better.

 

[Banjo64]

And yet nothing is said about Prime 4, which couldn't even manage a trailer *rollseyes*

Prime 4 was rebooted by Retro and Nintendo where honest about this.

 

[Kurimao]

Let them take they're time, I'm sure it will be breathtaking.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Gotta love the thread title.

this summer will be 3 years since fable teaser released , how can people hope a game is doing great when you dont show anything for 3 years​

Summer is six months away, but let’s exaggerate that to stir up the Sony crowd. I see right through your fake ass concern OP.