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[prinz_valium]

From the recent court documents released in the Epic vs Apple court case.
The biggest F2P online online game out in the west:

Epic has a monthly active Playerbase on Xbox One of 1.7m
Epic has a monthly active Playerbase on PS4 of 1.85m

The current installbase in the US
PS4 is above 34m
Xbox One is above 29m

So Xbox One has still slightly more monthly Fortnite players per Console sold.

 

[odhiex]

I don't see the connection, could you please elaborate more?

 

[Rikkori]

Good find, that's very interesting. It seems counter-intuitive but the simple fact is most people don't mind paying for things they value. The people that complain the most are not ones to contribute anyway.

 

[Black_Stride]

The consoles have "similar" install bases and users on said platforms both pay for "online gaming" so yeah the most popular MP games will have similar numbers F2P or otherwise.
The vast majority of game time on XB/PS will actually be the same.

I know people IRL who didnt know you dont need PS+ for F2P titles.
And those that did still payed for PS+ cuz FIFA/Madden/NBA.

 

[Outrunner]

only shows that xbox gamers have long lost any standards in gaming if there are so many playing fortnite.

 

[Black_Stride]

only shows that xbox gamers have long lost any standards in gaming if there are so many playing fortnite.

Haha you win Saturday.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Numbers are how you'd expect. Anytime you have a release that is more dominant in the West, Xbox will at first appear to have a much higher attach rate than PS. That's because people think of the WW discrepancy in units sold, but when looking at just the West, console units sold aren't that out of line so you get similar numbers. A game that is most popular in Europe would skew much more towards PS.

 

[turtlepowa]

only shows that xbox gamers have long lost any standards in gaming if there are so many playing fortnite.

Let me guess: Only people that "play" Netflix 3rd person adventures have high standards?

 

[Outrunner]

Let me guess: Only people that "play" Netflix 3rd person adventures have high standards?

Wouldn't really say that people who play games on game pass have any kind of standards at all.

 

[Burythelight]

Let me guess: Only people that "play" Netflix 3rd person adventures have high standards?

Who play bloodborne sure is better than a fanbase chering for crackdown 3 and grounded.

 

[turtlepowa]

Who play bloodborne sure is better than a fanbase chering for crackdown 3 and grounded.

Crackdown sucks, but Grounded is super fun. I know you people love singleplayer games, but try Grounded with some friends.

 

[Gatox]

only shows that xbox gamers have long lost any standards in gaming if there are so many playing fortnite.

By showing more people play it on PlayStation? Erm, I don't think you really thought that through.

 

[Chukhopops]

It’s very interesting data, good find OP!

- iOS has more players than even PS4, but their revenue and play time is insignificant. Makes you actually wonder why Epic picked a fight with Apple and not MS or Sony;
- Compared to the install base, Fortnite is barely played on PC at this point;
- Switch is also trailing behind, again considering the install base but wow imagine playing 4h per week on the awful Switch version.

Wouldn't really say that people who play games on game pass have any kind of standards at all.

Threadshitters like you are not worthy of having a Kiryu avatar.

 

[FatKingBallman]

The current installbase in the US
PS4 is above 32m
Xbox One is above 28m

So Xbox One has still slightly more monthly Fortnite players per Console sold.

 

[SLB1904]

Weird flexing

 

[Strider Highwind]

Crackdown sucks, but Grounded is super fun. I know you people love singleplayer games, but try Grounded with some friends.

You out here giving folks too much credit....Them...Friends?

 

[SLB1904]

You out here giving folks too much credit....Them...Friends?

What the fuck is that

 

[DaGwaphics]

I'll admit, I figured there would be a lot more Fortnite players on PS4 because of the free online for free games. I guess that was never important to begin with.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

From who's point of view? I wonder how it makes any sense for the gamers that it's there in the first place... And is somehow spinned as "neutral".

The press really likes whatever MS feeds them.

 

[DaGwaphics]

From who's point of view? I wonder how it makes any sense for the gamers that it's there in the first place... And is somehow spinned as "neutral".

The press really likes whatever MS feeds them.

Wrong thread maybe?

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Let me guess: Only people that "play" Netflix 3rd person adventures have high standards?

This is kind of funny given how MS pushed for a Netflix like service in games as if their life depended on it.... And the state of their output as a publisher, no wonder they focus on "services" and recurring revenues to milk their willing customers.

In the mean we have tons of games that are actually worth our time on PlayStation.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Wrong thread maybe?

Someone spin a paywall as good... I'm pretty sure that I posted in the right place.

 

[DeepEnigma]

We cheerleading paywalls now that MS is finally going to remove the F2P one?

Weird flex, bro.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

That doesn't prove the paywall isn't doing anything, I think most people agree the average Xbox gamer is more online orientated than the average PS gamer. You'd have to show that the amount of people playing F2P games didn't change at all after they dropped the restriction to show there was no negative effect.

 

[prinz_valium]

I don't see the connection, could you please elaborate more?

On Xbox One, you need to pay (for Xbox Live Gold) to be able to play Fortnite, On Ps4 you don't
Yet more people play Fortnite per console sold on Xbox compared to Ps4, despite the paywall.

Ill update the figures, just used older ones I remembered.

 

[prinz_valium]

It’s very interesting data, good find OP!

- iOS has more players than even PS4, but their revenue and play time is insignificant. Makes you actually wonder why Epic picked a fight with Apple and not MS or Sony;
- Compared to the install base, Fortnite is barely played on PC at this point;
- Switch is also trailing behind, again considering the install base but wow imagine playing 4h per week on the awful Switch version.

Threadshitters like you are not worthy of having a Kiryu avatar.

Well it's from the US, the gaming market besides Japan, that is most heavily screwed towards console.
For Europe it would look different. Especially Germany for example.
I found the Mac numbers most interesting.

That doesn't prove the paywall isn't doing anything, I think most people agree the average Xbox gamer is more online orientated than the average PS gamer. You'd have to show that the amount of people playing F2P games didn't change at all after they dropped the restriction to show there was no negative effect.

Well the paywall isn't dropped yet and I doubt we'll ever get those statistics again.
But you're right. It's possible, that people pay anyways.
The point is, that it's not a factor, that is heavily impacting anything like seeing the playerbase on Xbox being 3 times as low Playstation.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Free to play is an issue when Microsoft partakes in subscriptions like Xbox Live, and Gamepass. Free to Play messes and bothers Microsoft.

 

[The Hamburglar]

only shows that xbox gamers have long lost any standards in gaming if there are so many playing fortnite.

Even worse. They’re paying to play it and when it’s free.

 

[Outrunner]

Even worse. They’re paying to play it and when it’s free.

exactly

 

[Burythelight]

Crackdown sucks, but Grounded is super fun. I know you people love singleplayer games, but try Grounded with some friends.

I don't have to play a clone of other many scanvenge games on steam. I don't waste precious time on mediocre game.

 

[turtlepowa]

I don't have to play a clone of other many scanvenge games on steam. I don't waste precious time on mediocre game.

And i don't waste time watching hours of cutscenes /scripted scenes when i actually want to play a game. Good thing that people have different tastes.

 

[FatKingBallman]

On Xbox One, you need to pay (for Xbox Live Gold) to be able to play Fortnite, On Ps4 you don't
Yet more people play Fortnite per console sold on Xbox compared to Ps4, despite the paywall.

Ill update the figures, just used older ones I remembered.

Yeah, now with adjusted numbers difference is around 2 mil. more in PS4 favor...so....

So Xbox One has still slightly more monthly Fortnite players per Console sold.

maybe this doesn't add up then.

 

[prinz_valium]

Yeah, now with adjusted numbers difference is around 2 mil. more in PS4 favor...so....



maybe this doesn't add up then.

???
With adjusted numbers it's even more in favor of Xbox


PS4 has an active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5,47%
Xbox One has and active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5.92%

With my previous numbers those were, PS4 at 5,81% and Xbox One at 6.13%

 

[FatKingBallman]

???
With adjusted numbers it's even more in favor of Xbox


PS4 has an active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5,47%
Xbox One has and active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5.92%

With my previous numbers those were, PS4 at 5,81% and Xbox One at 6.13%

How if Epic data is US related?

 

[Zeroing]

Wow at people taking conclusions that paying for something like online is good!

Well if people are happy with this can’t wait to see what companies will do next to get more money out of us!!!! Ugh

 

[prinz_valium]

How if Epic data is US related?

Yes, the whole data is US related, just like the sales figures about the consoles.
I really don't get your point.

 

[FatKingBallman]

Yes, the whole data is US related, just like the sales figures about the consoles.
I really don't get your point.

Epic data shows player count differently

 

[Alright]

???
With adjusted numbers it's even more in favor of Xbox


PS4 has an active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5,47%
Xbox One has and active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5.92%

With my previous numbers those were, PS4 at 5,81% and Xbox One at 6.13%

I find I play online more on the xbox and play single player games on PS4. I don't know why, I just prefer the xbox environment when it comes to social gaming and find the Sony environment to be more... (I can't think of the word without people taking it the wrong way)...secure, isolated, protected. Its like xbox is a party and Sony is a bed and duvet.

Regardless, in this day and age, you should not have to pay for PSN/XBL to play FREE TO PLAY games otherwise, they aren't free to play

 

[The_Mike]

How if Epic data is US related?

Why are you so desperate?

 

[MonarchJT]

Wouldn't really say that people who play games on game pass have any kind of standards at all.

probably you joking but after 2 post in the same line you won an high standard report

 

[alabtrosMyster]

???
With adjusted numbers it's even more in favor of Xbox


PS4 has an active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5,47%
Xbox One has and active monthly Fortnite playerbase of 5.92%

With my previous numbers those were, PS4 at 5,81% and Xbox One at 6.13%

There is a serious case of Stockholm syndrome going on in the Xbox family.

P.S. I'm a practicing psychiatric dr. Specialist in Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Burythelight]

And i don't waste time watching hours of cutscenes /scripted scenes when i actually want to play a game. Good thing that people have different tastes.

Do you like repetitive games for autist? Good for you.

 

[ShinraMiddleMananger]

Someone spin a paywall as good... I'm pretty sure that I posted in the right place.

Keeps the riff raff out

 

[Kagey K]

Keeps the riff raff out

Definitely stops people from making new accounts every time they get banned for cheating, and that is a good thing for everyone.

 

[turtlepowa]

Do you like repetitive games for autist? Good for you.

It was fun with you, but now it's getting pathetic. Nevertheless have a nice day.

 

[BigBooper]

Bunch of assumptions here.

 

[ANIMAL1975]

And i don't waste time watching hours of cutscenes /scripted scenes when i actually want to play a game. Good thing that people have different tastes.

I don't like long cutscenes too, and sometimes when i just want to play the game non-stop because it's really good, i would just like to skip all of them _ long or short. But what you say is just stupid _ so you never played a Resident Evil game, you never played a COD single player, you never played Assassins Creed, Metro, Bioshock _ I just could go on and on and on...

 

[phil_t98]

Wow at people taking conclusions that paying for something like online is good!

Well if people are happy with this can’t wait to see what companies will do next to get more money out of us!!!! Ugh

Could always go back to the days when it was free and 77 million accounts and credit card details got leaked

 

[Kagey K]

Could always go back to the days when it was free and 77 million accounts and credit card details got leaked

That didn’t happen in most of the minds here, because they didn’t have enough credit to get stolen.

 

[bender]

Wouldn't really say that people who play games on game pass have any kind of standards at all.

Yakuza is on Gamepass.