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Silent hill 4 The most MEME and Funny game of the saga
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Silent hill 4 The most MEME and Funny game of the saga
Badlucktroll
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How do i get the SH2 enhanced edition (PC)? Can someone explain to me how to do it?
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Silent hill 4 The most MEME and Funny game of the saga
I got a feling that by the time SH4 came out Team Silent (or at least part of it) was intentionally trying to screw the franchise in order to get rid of it, try new projects and move on with their lives (or maybe they were just out of ideas, while Konami kept trying to make money out of it). Although SH4 has some good ideas, there are a lot of bad choices there. One little "bad decision" that immediately comes to my mind is some sound effects they used: what's with the sound those dogs make when attacking, for instance? I remember thinking that was such a lazy and lame choice... One other thing that comes to my mind is the way they animated Henry - it didn't feel right somehow (like the way he walked was kindda clumsy/funny).
kunonabi
Member
Yeah, it is impressive technically, although that gets undercut by the awful animation, but everything else is bloody awful. Merging the first 3 games into one shitty alternate elseworlds take goes as badly as it could. Honestly, picking a worst game out of everything post SH3 is a bit of a fool's errand since they all have major issues.People always praised Shattered Memories.
So much so I eventually got a copy for a price
Honestly I love style and the way it looked with all ice, but the game did not play well.
Those running sections were terrible.
Out of all of them release after SH4 The Room.
Shattered Memories is probably the worse.
But that's just my opinion.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
That is true, but I at least finish the others
Ironically I did actually like Homecoming..yeah I know.
But I like how it ripped the world change effect directly from the the film, Pyramid Head...not so much
And I just imagined Alex Shepherd was Jensen Ackles
AlteredForms
Banned
One of the reasons there's not many Silent Hill threads on NeoGAF is due to Konami holding the series hostage and the PC crowd missing out due to the rough ports. Fatal Frame recently made it to the Steam and I can only hope Tecmo can recreate the earlier games as it's much scarier than Silent Hill, albeit not as memorable with the characters and storytelling.
You're absolutely correct. People can link whatever video essays on Youtube about how Silent Hill 2 is a masterpiece, but it's not a very scary game, not in contrast to the first which was horrifying.
killatopak
Member
It's because it wasn't supposed to be SH in the first place at the very least it was considered a spin off. Konami just pressured them to tie it in with SH.
Also I think they're not really out of ideas. In fact I think it's the opposite. SH4 brought a lot more new stuff in terms of gameplay and design. There's a lot more experimentation going on than any other sequel in the franchise.
Oh, yeah, now that you brought that up, I remember some debates back then over the fact that it wasn't supposed to be SH. That makes sense and can definitely screw up a game.
I agree on the experimentation. Although I think experimentation usually takes place in two scenarios: 1) when you're innovating; 2) when you explored all possibilities in a given area (like psychological horror in games, for example) and need to do something different. I was refering to scenario 2.
Anyway, whatever the reason is, it seems to me that they were trying to at least undermine some parts of the game. I mean, look at those burping nurses. WTH is that? Why would someone put that in a psychological horror game? It is almost as if they were trying to say a big "F**K U, whoever is funding this project". LOL
I didn't play any SH after SH4, so all I can say is that if you enjoyed SH2, you might also like SH3. SH2 is better IMO, but 3 is great.
Gameplay mechanics, acting and dialogues are poor (which is true for any SH), but aesthectics, music and sound design are outstanding.
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Arachnid
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3 and 4 are fantastic. 4 has the best story in the series after 2, but suffers from some infuriating game design if you can get past it.
There is enjoyment to be had in Origins, Homecoming, and Downpour, but there really aren't worth a 1/4th of the original 4 games. Shattered Memories is a fantastic one off and has the third best story in the series (I expected to hate it when it came out but it pleasantly surprised me), but I hate how the gameplay is more about running like oOutlast vs exploration and puzzles.
Krathoon
Member
Oh, I remember. Until Dawn.
bender
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TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
I haven't completed it yet (on the second act) but Doki Doki Literature Club seems to have a little bit of this, though most of the choices you get are binary decisions.
Krathoon
Member
Silent Hill games always have disturbing sounds. They are intentionally unnerving.
I just managed to snag a Tender Loving Care dvd on eBay for 10 bucks. Has good ole John Hurt.
There are two other games in the series that Until Dawn was in.
Edit: Here it is. The Dark Pictures Anthology.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Pictures_Anthology
I just managed to snag a Tender Loving Care dvd on eBay for 10 bucks. Has good ole John Hurt.
There are two other games in the series that Until Dawn was in.
Edit: Here it is. The Dark Pictures Anthology.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Pictures_Anthology
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bender
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Three: Man of Medan, Little Hope, House of Ashes
Medan was terrible so I haven't tried the other two.
Krathoon
Member
Yeah. I didn't know about Little Hope. I got Medan, but have not played it. It is in the backlog. Really those kind of games are easier to play. I like how they are not really long.
I got that old Fahrenheit game somewhere.
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bender
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Not really a horror game except for David Cage's horrible writing. The intro is great though and shows so much promise that the rest of that game, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls and Detroit: Become Human failed to deliver on.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
SH2 is the most beautiful horror game I ever played and still suppress most games these days.
BTW enhanced edition is the way to play it on PC its phenomenal
BTW enhanced edition is the way to play it on PC its phenomenal
kunonabi
Member
SH3 is arguably the best game in the series although it does not stand on its own as much as 1 and 2.
Everything after is shit
SH4 is buggy, poorly designed in every department, has a terrible camera, awful combat, enemy design is a joke, the second half of the game is a lazy mess, and the story and characters are rubbish. It does have nice environments, an excellent soundtrack, poorly implemented but still, and one amazing scare. It's a frustrating waste of a great concept.
Origins has one kind of cool location and one good song but it is fairly dull otherwise and doesn't work at all as a prequel.
Homecoming has really nothing going for it and the second half especially is just a complete tonal misfire. It's not aggressively busted, although still buggy in places, but it's so bland and mediocre that there just any point to it.
SM has a more solid foundation but it it isn't scary and the story is awful and pointless. The gameplay is also nonexistent which doesn't help matters. The psychological profile system is not nearly as deep or interesting as they would have you believe either.
Downpour is just complete a mess. Like SH4 it at least has a basic concept that has potential but they do fuck all with it. Story wise it's the same old SH2 angle regurgitated yet again and the game itself is held together with toothpicks.
BoM was a Vita multiplayer dungeon crawler with a godawful writer at the helm. You can guess how that went.
I can't endorse anything after 3. 4 does have some high points in its artistry but it just sucks too much to actually play as far as I'm concerned.
Krathoon
Member
I played a little SH4 in the emulator and I noticed the textures are pretty low res compared to SH3. The haunting at the beginning seemed a little glitchy. I don't know if it was an intentional effect or an emulator glitch. That is the thing about emulators.
The scream at the beginning doesn't make allot of sense. I guess he was horrified by his apartment.
The scream at the beginning doesn't make allot of sense. I guess he was horrified by his apartment.
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Krathoon
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I saw that Fahrenheit gets pretty weird. Not really horror. More of a Sci fi game I guess.
Krathoon
Member
You have to install the PC version of SH2 and patch it to the enhanced version. I have a link to the website with the patches and directions in the first post.
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95mellow
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I'm not sure I'll even play a Silent Hill 2 remake.
I feel like it's already fine, and a lot of its appeal relies on it looking a little old and janky. It's still flat-out beautiful at times too, and the character models in cutscenes are perfect. The same applies to 1 and 3.
I'm just a cranky old man these days, though.
I feel like it's already fine, and a lot of its appeal relies on it looking a little old and janky. It's still flat-out beautiful at times too, and the character models in cutscenes are perfect. The same applies to 1 and 3.
I'm just a cranky old man these days, though.
SCB3
Member
But why?
Badlucktroll
Member
If the Silent Hill 2 remake is real, i will give it a chance if its a faithful 1:1 remake in unreal engine 5.
darkangel-212559
Banned
I really think Downpour deserves a mention here. Yes the chase scenes over stayed their welcome, but everything else was spot on. It was a entry that respected the OG games and nailed the atmosphere and setting bang on. It's the best western entry by far. I replay it every year along side the rest of the OG games.
Decontamination Silo
Banned
""Acquire"" a copy of SH2 for PC. Download all the mod packs on the EE site. Extract each of the mods into the main SH2 folder. Boom you're done. Did it last night and it went smooth af. Looks and plays great too. One of the highest quality remakes of this type I've ever played.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Would be interesting to do for Steam Deck, possible? Has anyone tried?
Decontamination Silo
Banned
I would guess that you'd need a Windows OS, but maybe someone more familiar with the Deck can chime in.
The mods themselves are wonderfully integrated. Menus look native, the fog is terrific and it's all built on the OG foundation. I think if this released as a retail product it would be 90+ on metacritic.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
killatopak
Member
SH1 needs the remake more than SH2.
Reasons being to set up the SH universe for newcomers. A lot more dated graphics means a remake will have more impact.
Also, maybe a little bit of a segway but I find the path to different endings feels a lot more satisfying in SH1 than 2. 2 is just like heal always and never let your health stay low.
Reasons being to set up the SH universe for newcomers. A lot more dated graphics means a remake will have more impact.
Also, maybe a little bit of a segway but I find the path to different endings feels a lot more satisfying in SH1 than 2. 2 is just like heal always and never let your health stay low.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Anything that's not deck compatible on Steam (Linux versions basically) would need to run on Windows.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I guess dual booting into Windows is still not the way to go, but I was hoping for something like Wine and hoping a not so recent game would still hit 30 FPS…
ParaSeoul
Member
Companies now are choosing to remake whats already good. RE4 getting a remake before Code Veronica for example. I would like to see an SH 1 remake tbh,Silent Hills would have been a soft reboot I feel.
peronmls
Member
There is something unsettling with inanimate objects being alive. Reminds me of dreams. SH4 seems to be more paranormal than monster driven. That being said, the wheelchairs moving have always freaked me out.
Silent hill 4 The most MEME and Funny game of the saga
Badlucktroll
Member
Does it have an enhancement patch for PC?
AlteredForms
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Krathoon
Member
That is a pretty neat enemy design.You can actually see the shadow of the souls who occupy them.
anthraticus
Banned
No doubt. Played them both recently and the first was even better than I remembered, while 2 was quite a bit worse, still okay, but honestly dropped quite significantly for me. Less frightening atmosphere, less oppressive music, more focus on story, even more linear, worse combat. Kinda interested how Silent Hill 3 holds up. I see a lot of the SH1>SH2 people prefer it to 2 also.
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BryceNobody
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I find one key difference between 1 & 3 vs. 2 is the focus on the ‘occult’ aspect of Silent Hill. 1 & 3 have the cult stuff really imbedded in the backbone of those games. 2 is more interested in the atmosphere and bizarreness of the town without dwelling too heavily on ‘why’ things are the way they are like in 1 & 3. It’s more open to exploring mood, themes, characters, etc. over giving the town a direct cause for being so creepy.
To be clear: I love all three dearly. But I’ve always thought that’s one of the reasons 2 gets a little more love than the rest.
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Krathoon
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No. It has a port that is missing hauntings, but no patch. It is best to play the PS2 version.