The PS4 is 400€ in Europe. Are you not translating that to dollars too?
Lol. Ok so now that i've looked into Euro differences, I can change my 5x the price to 4x the price. That make you happy? Cause it still proves my point when what you paid cost 4x. I'm also taking your word on those prices you got, as I don't feel like looking into it when even what you're listing just proves me right.
4 and 5 X is being generous.
Still need a matching controller and 4K BR Drive.
Dude, you said "A PC of equivalent power to the PS5 is 3-4x the price", I show you a PC much more powerful for x4 the price and you say I'm proving your point? Sorry, but I'm out of here, this is just pure madness.
The problem with your assumption is that when the PS5 or Xbox get next gen games that will show their true power (according to you for some reason, since Control is a very demanding game even on powerful pcs) PC parts will be cheaper, new, more powerful parts in the midrange bracket will come out and in 2 years you can build a pc enough to beat the consoles easily in the 2~3 x price.
I applaud and respect you for trying, even though you resorted to insults as well, but nope. 10600k has less cores and less threads. Do you honestly think PS5 games of the future won't take advantage of this?
I even added a link to the video as a check mate kiddo and you even missed that.
Your PC isn't much more powerful at all. You paid 4x on the dot, the high end of my estimate, and your PC is comparable to PS5 specs. I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt by, considering certain things like the DDR in your RTX 3080 is less than PS5's. Keep in mind specs is all we have to go by until dedicated next gen releases happen, unless you wanna continue being a schlub who uses Control to compare.Dude, you said "A PC of equivalent power to the PS5 is 3-4x the price", I show you a PC much more powerful for x4 the price and you say I'm proving your point? Sorry, but I'm out of here, this is just pure madness.
I mentioned Hitman and COD too, but I guess those don't count either.
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that benchmarks tell the real story here so as we have more games there will be more information.
Maybe a simple Google search, or simply reading the comments that several of us have provided factual proof, as to why ps5 is no where near a 3700x.
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Gamers Nexus AKA the guy who used Borderlands 3 benchmarks to make determination on PC vs PS5 lmao. If you think a cpu with more cores and threads won't be taken advantage of by game developers on future dedicated next gen releases, you're just being silly
We're a couple months into next gen. We literally don't have a single dedicated next gen game on those consoles and PC. Anyone who thinks Control can be used as a benchmark cause of how it runs on PC is being silly. Anyone who thinks games being developed that still have last gen releases as well as next gen releases ala Hitman 3 will be the benchmark performance of next gen is being silly. Shame Demon's Souls didn't come out for PC. Even though dedicated launch games still always leave room for improvement in fully utilizing next gen, it would've given us a game to discuss that doesn't dedicate resources to making sure its compatible on last gen as well. Until we get one though, specs are all we can compare in earnest.
Cache mb is higher, but DDR4 memory type vs PS5's DDR6. Same # of cores, threads, etc. Do you know how to use google? Give it a try and you'll find its pretty universal when looking for the most comparable cpu to PS5's, its 3700x. If you disagree, try listing the cpu you think is more comparable. Oh wait you did that and listed the 3100 which is unequivocally less powerful. Stick to insults, its all you got.Maybe a simple Google search, or simply reading the comments that several of us have provided factual proof, as to why ps5 is no where near a 3700x.
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L3 cache, clockspeed, power draw, thermals, etc are even more proof that ps5 is no where near a 3700x. Please no childish comments, as the only child in in the thread is the one with the constant insults to all of us adults. It's not our first rodeo, and it's easy to spot the younger generation.
Thank you sir. The only person in here willing to discuss what I said without bias, insults, or immaturity. This is a good post and you have certainly built the most comparable PC at the best price point.Here is a build I threw together that I would say is at least comparable to the PS5, but this is focusing primarily on price. I realize I could have skimped on some parts and may have spent a little more on others. Obviously not an exhaustive search for the best build. Just a general example.
Note: I left off the price off the GPU as the only prices available are incredibly inflated due to demand beyond RRP (much like PS5s being resold).
Price without GPU is $691. Add in a $400 RTX 3060 Ti and that brings it up to $1091. There are trade-offs in both directions. The 3060 Ti is superior to the PS5's GPU primarily due to DLSS and better RT. The CPU is also faster. PS5 has faster overall memory and a far superior SSD.
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Ddr6? You mean Gddr6? Pc has already had gddr6x which is faster and has more bandwith. 3700x is much faster and more robust than ps5 cpu. It's more comparable to the ryzen laptop cpu's. Nothing like the desktop 3700x as you incorrectly keep stating. You can actually buy a 3700x if you want one so bad, but you aren't getting it's performance in a ps5 which has been proven several times, especially in games that support high framerate, which really shows the CPU power.
OK mate despite same specs in all the major categories if you wish to believe based on Borderlands 3 benchmarks the 3700x is more powerful and the 3100 is comparable to PS5 than do so. Just leave me alone already ffs you're by far the worst poster in this thread lol
No you're right. The upgraded version of Control showcases the climax of what PS5 is capable of. All games with dedicated next gen releases over the next 1-2 years will certainly all look and perform at its equivalence. How could anyone question this?!
Did you really write that DDR4 built for better latency with the CPU is a downgrade to GDDR6 that is built for bandwidth for both CPU and GPU on the PS5??? Oh, poor future DDR5 on PC that will still be a downgrade to GDDR6... The horror...
Yeah, I just don't get the whole PC hate that some of these warriors display. If you like your cheaper console, cool. Nothing bad to say about it. But some of us prefer the best performance. You won't get that at $500 bucks, and I'm glad to pay into my hobby, as I get more than my money's worth from it, and then some. I feel this neo member is an alt of someone, and I think I know who it is.
The price to performance ratio you get out of the PS5 is currently unmatched in the PC space. A 5600x is a 400 dollar CPU. A 3060 is a 400 dollar GPU, an SSD that matches the speed of what the PS5 has is 200+. Minus the insane amount of I/O customization on the PS5.
The problem is, we have no clue if ps5 ssd speeds make a feasible difference. Sadly enough, there are games the XSS loads faster than XSX and ps5. Of course older games, but we haven't seen any proof of needing x speeds for games for now of even foreseeable future. I personally would have spent the ssd budget towards a better GPU like Xbox. But that's just me.
. Although 3080ti sounds like a better deal now. Oh well.
The problem is, we have no clue if ps5 ssd speeds make a feasible difference. Sadly enough, there are games the XSS loads faster than XSX and ps5. Of course older games, but we haven't seen any proof of needing x speeds for games for now of even foreseeable future. I personally would have spent the ssd budget towards a better GPU like Xbox. But that's just me.
I agree with not getting the performance of a console for the same price in pc space. But you also don't get the same abilities of a PC from a console, which can differ from person to person. But for affordability and performance for the money, 2x the price of a ps5 will give you better performance and usability. Get both though.
This is coming from someone who own a RTX 3090 as well
Most retarded list i ever saw.
Check out God Of War on PS5 - it’s still the PS4 version. What’s the closest comparison on PC?
So while PC has to wait for consoles to catch up, do you honestly think getting a high end SSD would really be beneficial, especially before direct storage comes into play. Which no games on PC or console will take use of for some time. It may be a bottleneck right now in i/o, but what games lack on performance because of this, or currently use this right now, even in console space?
The fact you and others think an optimized upgrade is the same as a dedicated sole next gen release is crazy. I mean, this is borderline common sense. Imagine thinking the upgraded version of fucking Control will look and perform the same as, for example, Rockstar's first dedicated next gen release. Just lmfao
lol ok man. You keep believing upgraded Control will be the equivalent of Rockstar putting all their resources behind a dedicated next gen game.
U literally said upgraded Control is the benchmark of the console cause its optimized for it. Listen, believe that. Don't get so emotional. I'll go ahead and believe when developers put full resources behind dedicated next gen games, they will perform better.
All sony PS5 games already load like they are on a cartridge. SSD proof day 1.
Are you trying to make a point other than "pC wIlL oUtPeRfOrM StiLl"? Where in the argument is that discussed? I'm solely pointing out how I find it beyond stupid for someone to think upgraded Control will perform the same as developers putting full resources into focused next gen titles.
