Kenpachii
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Playing divinity now again, and frankly 200 hours futher i cant stop playing it. so good.
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The PS5 is making me hate PC Gaming (techradar article)
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Playing divinity now again, and frankly 200 hours futher i cant stop playing it. so good.
Mister Wolf
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
wheres the league of legends console port? Guess that game wasn’t big enough to get a console port and is niche. Steam has more monthly active users than PSN does now. You sound like you’re posting from the year 2009.
if you want cinematic 3rd person games where you walk next to a NPC played by nolan north while he unloads exposition on you then just play console games forever.
also i guess you missed this but snoy just a few months ago dropped their biggest new IP from last gen on Steam. The best place to play breath of the wild is on PC too.
GHG
Gold Member
Pretty sure it is, at least that's what the devs are saying.
Control Ultimate Edition's PS5 and Xbox Series X|S enhancements detailed
Remedy has revealed the various graphical modes of Control Ultimate Edition on next-gen consoles.
www.vg247.com
It won't cost me anything to try it out so I will. I'm especially interested to see how they've implemented the controller features.
RGB'D
Member
I just rounded out my setup with a PS5 digital yesterday. Already had a Series X for couch gaming, and a switch so the upgrade to PS5 made sense. PS5 is pretty and fun, and the controller has me worried for longevity but is pretty rad especially in astrobot. Miles looks pretty and is hella fun, but Control/Cyberpunk still are much prettier games on PC. But in no freaking way does it even touch my PC rig, or the enjoyment I have on PC. What a weird take from this article... I love console gaming, but PC is a way superior experience.
Mister Wolf
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Pretty sure it is, at least that's what the devs are saying.
Control Ultimate Edition's PS5 and Xbox Series X|S enhancements detailed
Remedy has revealed the various graphical modes of Control Ultimate Edition on next-gen consoles.
It won't cost me anything to try it out so I will. I'm especially interested to see how they've implemented the controller features.
No the article you posted only lists reflections and transparency reflections. That's exactly where I got my information from.
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Kelegacy
XBOX - RECORD ME LOVING DOWN MY WOMAN GOOD
Very true. My PS5 is great but in a year or so I will be playing multiplats that make console counterparts inferior. I need a whole new PC though, so I will be paying more than a PS5. In the meantime, I'm a PS5/GTX1080 gamer.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
it should not matter if it's 100% identical settings wise to the pc. The box is 500. Compromises are fine. Especially that they are so miniscule usually.
Control for PS5 isn't even getting RT Lighting in its next gen upgrade so I know for damn sure the PS5 upgrade for Cyberpunk when it finally releases isn't getting it.
Cyberpunk though? I don't have much hope for real ps5 version to be too good
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
For me it's time. Only have so much time to game. Back log is big enough as it is.
Breath of the wild plays like a dream on my PC. 1440p sharp as shit, locked 60fps, reshade to pretty it up a bit more, double lod. Shit I can even play it on my phone with a PS4 controller locked 60fps in bed streaming from my PC.
GHG
Gold Member
What else does the PC version have RT for?
If there are more options then what you mean to say is that it won't have the full suite of ray tracing effects, not nothing at all.
Mister Wolf
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RGB'D
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Rust, half life alyx, dota2, star citizen, age of empires, etc.,... there is a shit ton of PC exclusive games. Also I can play with whatever peripheral I want. I get that people love the PS5, heck I love mine, but PC is better. Yes it can take some tinkering (not that often) but the performance and peripheral flexibility, access to multiple marketplaces, VR (PsVR is garbage compared to any PC equivalent)... it’s not even close.
Blond
Banned
I should also mention my last real pc had a 1070 Founders Edition, but knowing it cost me 450 dollars and I didn’t even get a top end card really made me side eye PC gaming
mcjmetroid
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Arkam
Member
Right there with you. I’m rocking a 1060 myself. Still fine at 1080p but getting long in the tooth. But I have a PS5 so if I want prettier I boot that up..... til this summer/fall (assuming hw is available) when I upgrade.
GHG
Gold Member
RT Lighting just like Cyberpunk
Let's see how the next gen console versions stack up then, we should know everything in a couple of days.
If it's shit on the PS5 then I can just buy it on PC for next to nothing at some point.
Kuranghi
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Control for PS5 isn't even getting RT Lighting in its next gen upgrade so I know for damn sure the PS5 upgrade for Cyberpunk when it finally releases isn't getting it.
Just as aside I think they really could've made the lighting 10x better on the non-RT mode, but they were probably targetting the RT mode. I mean why does there have to be no baked-in graphics for this scene, he doesn't even really move. Its not like standard raster graphics couldn't do better than crap.
I'm guessing its because you get into the car from the open world and its not a real interior so it would take a lot more work to implement it in a way where you could make it look better, regardless, its ru-bash!
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Deleted member 17706
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That's totally fine. I would never recommend a PC to anyone who is fine with "good enough" and knows what that actually means. Consoles can be a great value.
Kuranghi
Member
RT Lighting just like Cyberpunk
Its cool to think that in the future we could go back to games with awesome models/materials and apply really accurate RT as a shader or something, it will totally transform old games in the same way supersampling them does.
mcjmetroid
Member
Ya but cyberpunk ran and continues to run better on PC than any console.
The Medium runs bad on everything. It's just a badly optimised game at the moment.
Somehow the PC is getting the blame for badly optimised games in general.
Weird article. No wait.. shit article that's more like it.
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Deleted member 17706
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It basically was a top end card... from the previous year. The GTX 1070 ($379 MSRP, June 2016 launch) beat out the GTX 980 Ti ($649 MSRP, June 2015 launch) in a lot of ways.
Mister Wolf
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What you're seeing is a limitation. There is no way to make the lighting better in that situation using the light probe method. It is an dynamic object(NPC) riding in a dynamic object(limo) all in real time. There is no way to bake the lighting. The only way to get better at this point is using some form of tracing. Here is R2R2 in the same exact scenario:
Mister Wolf
Member
I think it would really shine in the Bethesda games. Wouldn't be a quick fix though. They would have to completely rework there lighting engine.
mcjmetroid
Member
Anyway let's get to it here.
The author is seriously drinking some Kool aid here.
I dont know the guy and didn't click into the Article but as soon as you read " PS5 haptic feedback" as the only actual positive over PC gaming the mask comes off doesn't it.
I always love how people like this say
"OMG you spend 1000 on a PC and only 500 quid for a PS5"
as IF gaming is the ONLY thing you'll be doing with your personal computer and not one of the infinite other tasks it can do.
The author is seriously drinking some Kool aid here.
I dont know the guy and didn't click into the Article but as soon as you read " PS5 haptic feedback" as the only actual positive over PC gaming the mask comes off doesn't it.
I always love how people like this say
"OMG you spend 1000 on a PC and only 500 quid for a PS5"
as IF gaming is the ONLY thing you'll be doing with your personal computer and not one of the infinite other tasks it can do.
iHaunter
Member
I played it on PC. Meh...Slightly below average exclusive. Not very impressed by it - runs like shit too.
Kuranghi
Member
I get it, I meant with a lot of work maybe they could teleport you to an interior thats a fake car ride somewhere else on the map on entry since the journey has no choice, its kind of a cutscene. Probably thats not feasable ofc.
I understand why its not possible on RDR 2 since thats dynamic.
chorizosausage#3774
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I've just moved from a 55" 4k to a 165hz 32 inch 1440p, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.Console gaming is easier and more affordable, in other newsis liquid. I also like to game in front of big ass TV, something PC gamers never do even though they always like to say they can. Plug and play.
That 55" is strictly for trash tv now.
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Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Yikes
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Neither can the pc or the series X
BaneIsPain
Member
Buy whichever available or affordable first.
Enjoy both gaming.
Enjoy both gaming.
Kuranghi
Member
What model TV do you have?
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FearlessBelgian
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4K quality ? Lol, yeah, with variable resolution... Only Astrobot run at native 4K all the time on PS5 right now...
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Deleted member 17706
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4K quality ? Lol, yeah, with variable resolution... Only Astrobot run at native 4K all the time on PS5 right now...
To be fair, I'm firmly of the mind that going for native 4K is not the best use of rendering resources. 1440p with more effects and better FPS would always be my choice and I will barely notice the difference. Even more so with checkboarding reconstruction techniques or DLSS.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Again the PS5 version hasn't released/is not playable.
S0ULZB0URNE
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This is false.4K quality ? Lol, yeah, with variable resolution... Only Astrobot run at native 4K all the time on PS5 right now...
chorizosausage#3774
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It's a
I'm going to say, framerate and panel quality trump resolution. If you can afford that as well then fair enough.
It's a sony bravia from 2017. It's not great.
I'm going to say, framerate and panel quality trump resolution. If you can afford that as well then fair enough.
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CrustyBritches
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Their support page says: "Graphics Mode – Targets 30fps performance with ray tracing (transparency and reflections) at 1440p render resolution and 4K output"
RT Reflections and Transparency Reflections make up PC's 'Medium' RT Preset. Using 1440p Base upscaled to 4K with all Highest settings, 4xMSAA, and 'Medium' RT a R5 1600+2060 Super gets ~40fps in general exploration, ~35fps in combat, and 31fps min during a cutscene. This was over a 30min play session, and doesn't take into account DLSS.
In a stationary position in an office area RT 'Off' = 50fps, RT 'Med' = 40fps, RT 'High' = 30fps. RT is heavy. Probably even more so on AMD's solution found in consoles when considering that a RX 6800 fares about as well as a RTX 2080 in DF's Control RT benchmark.
Venom Snake
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FearlessBelgian
Member
Prove it.
Dee Dah Dave
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Consoles used to have a particular charm but I think it’s all but gone now. They are just woefully underpowered PC’s.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
4K quality ? Lol, yeah, with variable resolution... Only Astrobot run at native 4K all the time on PS5 right now...
I am not sure this is entirely true.
Pretty sure Spider-Man Remastered, Miles Morales, Fenyx Rising, Demon's Souls, The Pathless, NBA 2k21, AC:Valhalla, and Godfall all offer native 4k output modes
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TonyK
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I played Demon's Souls, Spiderman and now Valhalla in native 4k 30fps. Maybe you are referring only to 60fps mode.
skit_data
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4K quality ? Lol, yeah, with variable resolution... Only Astrobot run at native 4K all the time on PS5 right now...
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You are the ignorant fool who made the statement.
Back up this ignorant claim.
Kadayi
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cormack12
should have broken that up into quotes dude because I initially thought that was you writing that hot garbage and I was going to have to slap you around some for it James.T.Kirk style
Also, seems I'm not alone in this regard. You should probably edit that first post dude.
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Tickle My Tendies
Member
You chose 30 fps?
In fairness, I personally enjoyed MM and SMR in Fidelity Mode (30 fps), but for everything else (especially Demon's Souls) I play in performance mode.
MiguelItUp
Member
Same, pretty much. Definitely different strokes.
Some people would rather sit in a living room setting as opposed to a desk-like setting, and there's vice versa!