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DeepEnigma

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So much negativity. You people are the worst. Keep it up! 😅

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This a studio Microsoft needs to purchase honestly. Love to see what they could do with a real budget and fully staffed up. They would fill a nice hole in the line up and would be a small studio they could grow into something. They seem to have great ideas just need the budget for execution. I'll be playing it this weekend.
They don't need more money to make character animation bettter than PSone/PS2 level...that's amateurish stuff anyone into game development should be able to make it work properly, and in fact tons of low-budget games have done it much better.
 
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THEAP99

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This a studio Microsoft needs to purchase honestly. Love to see what they could do with a real budget and fully staffed up. They would fill a nice hole in the line up and would be a small studio they could grow into something. They seem to have great ideas just need the budget for execution. I'll be playing it this weekend.
Not sure if that's a good idea. I oftentimes see the xbox fanbase complaining about Sony "walking simulators" so idk why they'd be interested in ninja theory or Blunder Team
 

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Why Would anyone want a game to be bad? Fair enough if its not for you but seriously I don't get that line of thinking we all should want great games from all console manufacturers. Why do the Sony fanboys always run rampant on every xbox thread lol
 
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Stuart360

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Has there been another game recently which had such disparity between review scores?, i cant think of one.
 
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They also made Layers of Fear and Blaire Witch. Both were poor. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt for this one just for the SH influences. I'm sad to hear it's just OK.

Both of those games on release were less than $30. Talented visual dev but they need to do something different.
 

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This is probably a good case of the developer probably covering costs and maybe even profiting by putting it on gamepass rather than rely solely on sales, doesn't scream like a game people will run out to buy or even wishlist on steam. It's a decent GP filler title between AAA releases.
 

captainraincoat

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Lots of you must enjoy paying full price for games that are mediocre and 5 hours long

People do realise that
  1. This isn’t a first party title
  2. The game is effectively rendering 2 games at once
  3. Xbox/pc users don’t have to pay a cent if they have gamepas
1. Nope. It's effectively one game and when entering the spiritual world, it's the same scene but with different assets, lighting, and other underlying graphical effects. 2 different versions of the game at the same time would be a heavy task even for 3090. Maybe impossible.
2. How about Opencritic then?
Without knowing the trickery behind how it’s done you are still loading up twice the amount of things on some objects which is why it drops in quality....would love to see how it’s made as it’s pretty clear it’s

Reminds me of the Great titanfall 2 level

As for opencritic/metacritic....they are all just as horrible ways to measure games

Myself coming from a time where there was no internet and access to game magazines for reviews were out of sync by months sometimes playing these games blind was sometimes how you discovered some great games and I think gamepass in a way brings back that sort of mystery and does not punish your wallet

discovering and loving the yakuza series (yakuza zero)in the last week I never got into as I thought it was too Japanese has been a great example of game pass letting people to try games they probably pass over based on reviews

reviewers these days are lazy and almost always tainted by sponsorships/click baits or strict clauses for reviewing games and this feeds into any site that collates these reviews and projects a game as good or bad based on a score and not how it might appeal to the individuals playing it

As many have said...a game that rates in the mixed range would be a great game years ago based on reviews.
 

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Lots of you must enjoy paying full price for games that are mediocre and 5 hours long

People do realise that
  1. This isn’t a first party title
  2. The game is effectively rendering 2 games at once
  3. Xbox/pc users don’t have to pay a cent if they have gamepas

Without knowing the trickery behind how it’s done you are still loading up twice the amount of things on some objects which is why it drops in quality....would love to see how it’s made as it’s pretty clear it’s

Reminds me of the Great titanfall 2 level

As for opencritic/metacritic....they are all just as horrible ways to measure games

Myself coming from a time where there was no internet and access to game magazines for reviews were out of sync by months sometimes playing these games blind was sometimes how you discovered some great games and I think gamepass in a way brings back that sort of mystery and does not punish your wallet

discovering and loving the yakuza series (yakuza zero)in the last week I never got into as I thought it was too Japanese has been a great example of game pass letting people to try games they probably pass over based on reviews

reviewers these days are lazy and almost always tainted by sponsorships/click baits or strict clauses for reviewing games and this feeds into any site that collates these reviews and projects a game as good or bad based on a score and not how it might appeal to the individuals playing it

As many have said...a game that rates in the mixed range would be a great game years ago based on reviews.

I am baffled by your logic here. Games needs to stand on their own merits. Just because someone can get it for "free" on the gamepass doesnt't mean its worth someone's spending 10 + hours if it ain't any good. I am not saying this game is bad (haven't played it) just interested in your logic/justification.

Regards
 

Bernd Lauert

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Now see here. This is why I can't be arsed to trust reviewers anymore.

The OP has 9's and fucking 10's for this game. 9's and 10's is like game of the generation type scores.

Is this game really GOTG?
It's almost like people have different tastes. People who vibe with the atmospheric horror thing apparently like the game. People who are too edgy to enjoy atmospheric horror don't like the game. This is by the way the reason why Silent Hill is dead, it's too niche.
 

captainraincoat

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I am baffled by your logic here. Games needs to stand on their own merits. Just because someone can get it for "free" on the gamepass doesnt't mean its worth someone's spending 10 + hours if it ain't any good. I am not saying this game is bad (haven't played it) just interested in your logic/justification.

Regards
the problem is games are not being reviewed based on their merit...you are most likely taking someone opinions which are heavily influenced by outside factors
the fact there is a very wide range of scores sort of eludes to this and to many people use Metacritic is just a lazy way of not trying a game out because it doesn't hit 85%+

Cyberpunk is your classic example of how broken reviews are these days
 

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Called this after watching the trailer.



Niche divisive game is rated lower than a family friendly game in the safest genera ever? wowza

You guys always full of excuses huh? Even Until Dawn got a 79 score with more reviews.

 
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Even Until Dawn got a 79 score with more reviews.
A game with a bigger budget and Sony endorsement running on the in-house Decima engine.
This is what they got with a smaller budget:
 
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captainraincoat

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A game with a bigger budget and Sony endorsement running on the in-house Decima engine.
This is what they got with a smaller budget:
both are not bad games......but if we go off the reviews they are not very good
the whole focus on a shared review score based off multiple review sites which can be manipulated to give scores that are great or crap if certain reviewers in social media don't get review copies
 

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I was not interested in this Game even before, not my type of game. Meta didn't change anything for me.
I loved The Evil Within, it scored 75/100 on Meta, so what ? You might still love a game even if Meta is a bit meh.
I agree on the fact The Evil Within was not a Masterpiece, but still a very solid game which I enjoyed a lot. The unique atmosphere, and those moments of absolute fear and tension that very few horror games was able to give me.
Back on topic, I don't like the idea to play two different reality at the same time, but others may like it. Sure not a game for everybody. I have GamePass, maybe I could try it, but I am very skeptical .
 
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Caio

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3/10 - 10/10 :pie_thinking:

There's some fuckery going on here, reviewers are cunts,

If you ask me, I would ban reviewers giving 2/10 or 3/10 to games which are not completely broken. Often these are clickbait... I mean, if you don't like the Game is fine, you don't like the story, or a particular type of gameplay or gameplay mechanics, it is fine. But still, is graphics, sound, controls, gameplay mechanics completely broken in this Game, or the Story utter trash ? I don't think so, and I find this unprofessional. 2/10 or 3/10 should mean the Game is unplayable, broken, with crappy graphics and sound, a pure mess from every point of view. It can't be = ""I don't like the game"" -----> 3/10
 

MilkyJoe

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If you ask me, I would ban reviewers giving 2/10 or 3/10 to games which are not completely broken. Often these are clickbait... I mean, if you don't like the Game is fine, you don't like the story, or a particular type of gameplay or gameplay mechanics, it is fine. But still, is graphics, sound, controls, gameplay mechanics completely broken in this Game, or the Story utter trash ? I don't think so, and I find this unprofessional. 2/10 or 3/10 should mean the Game is unplayable, broken, with crappy graphics and sound, a pure mess from every point of view. It can't be = ""I don't like the game"" -----> 3/10

Exactly, if you don't like that sort of thing, don't review it.
 
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The reviews are all over the place, some very high ones and some really low ones! Well tonight after work I will find out for myself, as long as the story holds my attention I will probably like it. I'm a big fan of most old school PS2 era horror games so I can deal with bad gameplay if the story keeps me entertained.
 

TonyK

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It's almost like people have different tastes. People who vibe with the atmospheric horror thing apparently like the game. People who are too edgy to enjoy atmospheric horror don't like the game. This is by the way the reason why Silent Hill is dead, it's too niche.
But that doesn't have sense. I mean, I dont't like sport games, a review of FIFA from me will be bad for sure, but is that a proper review? I understand the first requisite to review a game is at least to like the type of game, if not, how can anybody trust that review?
 
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People do realise that
  1. The game is effectively rendering 2 games at once

The game is effectively rendering 2 games at onc. Without knowing the trickery behind how it’s done you are still loading up twice the amount of things on some objects which is why it drops in quality....would love to see how it’s made as it’s pretty clear it’s

Again. No. There is no 2 games

Running 2 games at the same time would be rendering 2x the full screen resolution, but that's not exactly the case here since the 2 viewports share the same screen estate.
So in this case the rendered number of pixels would be the same regardless if it's 1 or 2 scenes.
(for example 2x4k vs 4K split in 2 scenes).

Core of the scene is the same on both shared screen, same building structure and environment, but with different assets, lighting, and other underlying graphical effects. And when that appears, everything drops in resolution to 900p and texture quality. And of course it's 30fps.
Also it depends on demands of the engine. Titanfall 2 is modified old Source engine. Dishonored 2 has the similar level with 2 scene at once. That game is based on old idTech 4 or 5.
 
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Sigh.

Microsoft fanboys need to wise up, Sony fanboys have a winning strategy - middling review scores, average game, multiple people must only repeatedly post the words ‘underrated’ and ‘my GOTY’ over and over until it sticks (see The Order, Until Dawn, Days Gone, Death Stranding etc’).

If it doesn’t stick, just keep going. For years if necessary. Learn how to hype. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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JackMcGunns

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It not an Xbox game though it might be console exclusive but it not made or published by Xbox just like Godfall is not a Sony game since it not made or publish by Sony lol


You missed the point, the person is a nobody, might as well pull a review from YouTube comments in a PlayStation channel. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

DeepEnigma

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Called this after watching the trailer.





You guys always full of excuses huh? Even Until Dawn got a 79 score with more reviews.

Until Dawn is a national treasure.

Reason? Two words, Hayden Panettiere.
 

JackMcGunns

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GamePro: 83
EGM: 80
IGN: 80

Are these sources valid now a days? I'm getting old lol

Are the youngin's giving higher value to sources like GameSpew and Metro GameCentral? :messenger_anxious:
 
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Is the game glitchy or is my xbox dying? I keep seeing some red/blue flickers on my screen whilst playing the game.
 

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You don't have Google?


As fans already know, it is going to be a timed exclusive for Xbox Series X & S

No, they haven't explicitly said it's coming to PS5. Just like they didn't explicitly say Blair Witch was going to PS4 when the exclusivity period ended. Everyone realized it would and it did, the first day it could.
 
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fallingdove

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Sigh.

Microsoft fanboys need to wise up, Sony fanboys have a winning strategy - middling review scores, average game, multiple people must only repeatedly post the words ‘underrated’ and ‘my GOTY’ over and over until it sticks (see The Order, Until Dawn, Days Gone, Death Stranding etc’).

If it doesn’t stick, just keep going. For years if necessary. Learn how to hype. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Nah. When you have bangers like Horizon ZD, Spiderman, Uncharted, Last of Us, Ghost of Tsushima, Demon's Souls etc. you don't have to play pretend. The Order, Until Dawn, Days Gone, and Death Stranding are just the butter in between the steak and potatoes at the playstation dinner table.
 

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Was excited to try this but the fact that the team behind Layers of Fear is responsible for this does not inspire confidence.
 
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If you ask me, I would ban reviewers giving 2/10 or 3/10 to games which are not completely broken. Often these are clickbait... I mean, if you don't like the Game is fine, you don't like the story, or a particular type of gameplay or gameplay mechanics, it is fine. But still, is graphics, sound, controls, gameplay mechanics completely broken in this Game, or the Story utter trash ? I don't think so, and I find this unprofessional. 2/10 or 3/10 should mean the Game is unplayable, broken, with crappy graphics and sound, a pure mess from every point of view. It can't be = ""I don't like the game"" -----> 3/10

Agreed. Reading some of the 3/10 or 4/10 reviews for Cyberpunk 2077...I get it. If the game functionally doesn't work and many, many elements are completely broken, a 3 or a 4 make complete sense.

Medium being boring or having a bad story or anything like that simply doesn't go into a 2 or 3 area. Because of how subjective that is, I literally ignore that when recommending a game. Shit, I hate 90% of stories in games, they imho are mostly bad. Only a very small handful of stories have I really liked in gaming. So I can't just tell you 2/10 for Mass Effect 1 and the game fucking works, oh but I hate da story doe....

fallingdove fallingdove Agreed. I love those games, but no one out here is saying Until Dawn is GOTY or something.
 
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