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[Bonfires Down]

Ghost Babel is indeed pretty awesome.

 

[Kev Kev]

wait wait wait wait..... arent you the one banned yourself and your alt? lol

 

[Fbh]

Skyrim with the never ending bugs and awful combat let the gameplay do the talking?
Anyway, bad thread premise when all of those games were considered to look good back when they launched.

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

Proceeds to select the most graphically mind blowing games at the time of release.

 

[6502]

All these games, allowed their gameplay to do the talking.

Too much graphics takes the fun of the gameplay.

Sea of theives doesn't have great graphics. Instead it relies on artistic beauty, and the gameplay, to give you a good journey.

All of which had extremely advanced graphics for their respective systems....

 

[SF Kosmo]

You are a boomer now.

Boomers remember these games were graphical showcases in their day.

 

[Little Mac]

Graphics is the wrapping. Gameplay is the gift.

 

[VAVA Mk2]

All these games, allowed their gameplay to do the talking.

Too much graphics takes the fun of the gameplay.

Sea of theives doesn't have great graphics. Instead it relies on artistic beauty, and the gameplay, to give you a good journey.

Sea of Thieves likely has the best water in any game along with Forza Horizon 5 and Microsoft Flight Sim.

 

[TheMay30thMan]

All those older games looked great for their time. Are you sure you’re not trying to argue that older games are better than modern games?

 

[Kokoloko85]

Most those games were the top graphics at the time so no

 

[Great Hair]

Sea of fucking thieves?

 

[22•22]

I think the point OP is trying to make, is that great content and gameplay is more important than great frame rate and graphics

And I don’t disagree with that. But yeah, maybe the way you’re trying to make that point is a little off. But you’re right about graphics not being everything. People around here here treat it like it’s the most important aspect of a game, smh

Well excuse me for wanting ultra detailed spectators and trees in my racing game when I blast past them at 180mph game sucks otherwise /s

 

[Zannegan]

Why not instead say that a game can be good regardless of its graphics? Or better yet, that great graphics can elevate a game, but aren't absolutely required for greatness? Setting the two up as opposites seems silly and needlessly combative.

The only place I can see your point is when a game has nothing but its graphics going for it, but taking away the team's ability to make the game beautiful wouldn't necessarily have improved anything else about the final product, so even there I can't agree. It doesn't help the discussion that most of us aren't really equipped to separate graphics from art direction anyway.

 

[kuncol02]

All these games, allowed their gameplay to do the talking.

Too much graphics takes the fun of the gameplay.

Sea of theives doesn't have great graphics. Instead it relies on artistic beauty, and the gameplay, to give you a good journey.

Literally all that games were graphical marvels when they were released.

 

[Scotty W]

Op is 39 years old

 

[mrabott]

All these games, allowed their gameplay to do the talking.

Too much graphics takes the fun of the gameplay.

Sea of theives doesn't have great graphics. Instead it relies on artistic beauty, and the gameplay, to give you a good journey.

Are you NUTS!!! All these game had amazing graphics for their time.

Please, don't talk such nonsenses!

 

[mortal]

Your argument is flawed when you cite titles that were also considered visually groundbreaking for their time.

Super Mario 64 and FFVII?

 

[Bartski]

 

[Magnific0giganticus]

All these games, allowed their gameplay to do the talking.

Too much graphics takes the fun of the gameplay.

Sea of theives doesn't have great graphics. Instead it relies on artistic beauty, and the gameplay, to give you a good journey.

What year is it? Are you 15? All those games were top tier graphics when they came out (except maybe MGS1 which isn't the right picture btw...)

 

[TGO]

OP disproved themselves in the same OP

 

[dano1]

Red Dead Redemption 2 laughs in your face.

Actually it kind of proves his point
Gun play in both Red Dead’s is pure trash!! But I still don’t agree with him. God of War proves that.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Games are capable of having good graphics and gameplay.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

There may be argument to be made for this, but none of the games in the OP should be used to make that argument.

 

[KellyM]

All these games, allowed their gameplay to do the talking.

Too much graphics takes the fun of the gameplay.

Sea of theives doesn't have great graphics. Instead it relies on artistic beauty, and the gameplay, to give you a good journey.

But at the time of the release these games had great graphics. So your point and void.

 

[Alebrije]

 

[Novacain]

Weird, OP picked all the games that were considered premiere graphics at the time of release, almost like OP doesn't know anything and wasn't around for their release.

 

[Danjin44]

I like beautiful visuals as much as the next guy but the level of obsession over graphics in GAF have become very obnoxious.
They ignore or downright shit on any game if the graphics doesn’t meet their standard.

 

[Knightime_X]

Uhh..
Those graphics didn't look like shit during their time.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

Awful thread, awful premise.

Sea of fucking thieves?

Yeah i spilled my coffee when he sayd Sea of Thieves, i agree 100% with you .

 

[cyberheater]

Half Life Alyx. Best VR game I’ve played also has the best graphics.

 

[Fools idol]

Depends - I think some old games with outdated graphics still look great. I was playing Arcanum the other day and fell in love with it's charming infinity engine-ness.

 

[ACESHIGH]

Those games had elite graphics and tech for their time mate...

 

[Arsic]

Most shit graphics games by today standards were great back in the day. Mario and Zelda were God like visuals when they came out.

For modern games the vast majority do not have shit visuals or art styles that people rave about.

I don't like breath of the wild but that game is quite the looker IMO.

 

[Balducci30]

Zelda ff7 MGS and Mario all had great graphics for the time tho didnt they? When I was a kid I remember them being crazy looking.

I do agree tho a lot of the best games don’t prioritize graphics

 

[Shadax the wizard]

talkin bout bugsnax

 

[Uiki]

My first experience was like this. The way the waves moves, the lonely of the sea, and knowing you are in the middle of the sea with no direction is quite scary.

Are you 12?

 

[RoadHazard]

None of those games had "shit graphics" when they were released. SM64 in particular was mind-blowing. But all of them were peak AAA at the time. So this entire premise is very flawed, and pretty dumb.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

OP, are you aware that all of those games were praised for their graphics when they were released? lmao

 

[Fare thee well]

As a 2012 backer, fuck CR and Star Citizen...

BUT, if someone had implemented the same game idea with simple graphics (ie - cell shading), I'd enjoy the shit out of that game. They wasted so much time on looking cutting edge and now even that is falling behind.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I think you are pushing it. You can have great graphics and gameplay at the same time.

 

[RJMacready73]

Sony's first party studios be like..

 

[Spaceman292]

P.s. don't spoil the fun.

Do you find it fun when everyone in the thread thinks you're dumb?

 

[Perrott]

Laughable thread.

All those games were graphical showpieces at the time of their release.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

This is like when people argue that lower fps is better for cinematic storytelling.

 

[DrNeroCF]

I think the lesson here is, even the best games will have terrible graphics, one day.

 

[Duchess]

Many years ago I once argued on GameFAQs that gameplay >>> graphics.

I got mauled for that comment back then.

I then asked those that had laid into me whether, if they were going to be stuck on a desert island for a year, they would take Space Ace or Rogue (ASCII version) with them as their only game to play.

Naturally, they gave the politician response of answering the question without actually answering the question, but there you go

 

[David Ricardo]

You mean old games have shit graphics. Which is true... because they're old.

Actually, all those games were considered to have great graphics when they were launched

 

[Dr Bass]

The examples you picked looked amazing for their time.

 

[Aenima]

FF7 when came out for PS1 and PC was always a very good looking game, and the CG cutscenes was mindblowing.

 

[N30RYU]

aaaaand.... gone