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The game industry made 175 billion in 2020. Guess how much of that was spent on "in game" purchases?
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Alebrije
Member
Nope ...saddly.....
Remembee that only few of us like 2-3 kids had an Atari 2600....it was a small town almost a village...but great times sharing videogames.
Anyway the point is that kids only play Fortnite, Minecraft,Terraria , Roblox, or something similar....3-4 games are thier universe and when they see a new game play it few hours but they return to Fortnite and never comeback to that game.
I think we have an over offert of videogames these days, and it will implode soon or later.
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Great Hair
Banned
100% = $174.9 billions revenue in total
049% = $86.3 billions from mobile (13% tablets, 36% smartphone)
021% = $37.4 billions from PC
029% = $51.2 billions from consoles
PC+Console > Mobile by 2.5%.
About est. 500 million > 3,500 million
$86.3 billion : 3.5 billion = $25 per capita (pathetic)
$88.6 billion : 0.5 billion = $177 per capita (up to 7x more)
est.1billion pc+consoles?
$88.6 billion : 1.0 billion = $88.6 per capita (up to 3.5x more)
DOLLAR SPEND PER CAPITA
REJOICE, WE ARE STILL LEADING THE RACE!!!!
049% = $86.3 billions from mobile (13% tablets, 36% smartphone)
021% = $37.4 billions from PC
029% = $51.2 billions from consoles
PC+Console > Mobile by 2.5%.
About est. 500 million > 3,500 million
$86.3 billion : 3.5 billion = $25 per capita (pathetic)
$88.6 billion : 0.5 billion = $177 per capita (up to 7x more)
est.1billion pc+consoles?
$88.6 billion : 1.0 billion = $88.6 per capita (up to 3.5x more)
DOLLAR SPEND PER CAPITA
REJOICE, WE ARE STILL LEADING THE RACE!!!!
Killer Sakoman
Member
Many casual gamers don't bother with subscriptions. This is why they dont buy live gold or ps+. Many other casual are casuals because they are busy making 5 or 6 figures salaries. They have mony and they spend 2 or 3 figures on games. Money isn't an issue in videogames. EA and Activision are competing for people's time, money then comes with it.
BlackM1st
Banned
It's more about battle passes and daily logins/ challenges. Shit becomes your second job and requires a lot of time. There's nothing complex in getting 10 headshots, winning 3 races or mining 100 gems. It just takes time.
Imagine 1 game requiring 2 hours per day. CoD MW took me about 1h a day. Genshin Impact asks for 2 hours.
How much more games you can squeeze in your average play time with those numbers? Some people BARELY has 2 hours of free time total per day.
YeulEmeralda
Member
Complain about games costing €$70
I will get it on GamePass lol suckers
Spends hundreds of €$ on microtransactions and JPEGs
Bravo gamers
I will get it on GamePass lol suckers
Spends hundreds of €$ on microtransactions and JPEGs
Bravo gamers
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
Time to Rise Up again, gamers?
jufonuk
not tag worthy
If games go this route then retro only for me.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
LOL and a lot of people who defended it then are defending it still. Unacceptable.
GametimeUK
Member
On some positive notes I get to play games like Warzone free of charge, don't have to pay for maps and characters in Overwatch and some games like Sekiro or indie titles are still free of monetisation.
These numbers aren't all doom and gloom for me, but I understand people care about this stuff more than I do.
I think there's plenty of options that still cater to me.
These numbers aren't all doom and gloom for me, but I understand people care about this stuff more than I do.
I think there's plenty of options that still cater to me.
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Manstructiclops
Banned
I can't afford another free to play game.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
- Gaming industry at a record high and growing like crazy. Covid made it go even higher
- Big corporations have record sales, profits and profit margin due to digital revenue
- Cost of physically making packaging has tanked as it's gone from: expensive ROM chips 25-30 years --> cheap discs --> probably 3 cent digital downloads from their servers
- Prices have gone up to $70 ($90 in Canada.... back to the N64 64 mb cartridge price days)
- First party console makers getting 30% digital cuts from third parties like Steam
- DLC, mtx, $200 collector's editions with plastic figurine and Made in China stickers add more profits
- Used game market drying up as more gamers transition to digital media
- Digital sales every month so gamers are buying more games than they even play (digital sale hoarding)
But woe is us. Hey gamers, just want to let you know all us game studios are broke.
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B-universe
Banned
Yes, you deem it unacceptable. And if you deem it unacceptable, is there any possible refuge for people who disagree with you? I mean, you've deem it unacceptable. What is there to discuss, right?
Companies can and will charge whatever they want. Don't buy their games then, if you find them too expensive. Save the money.
Nester99
Member
We need more detail to what the breakdown of "in game purchases"
How many are for DLC,
How many are for Actual Microtransaction,.
How much of the micro is Pay to win vs Pay to Fashion ?
What is the split of games? Is Fortnight so popular that fancy outfits count for 50% of all purchases? does it skew the numbers?
Shocking numbers but we need to drill down.
How many are for DLC,
How many are for Actual Microtransaction,.
How much of the micro is Pay to win vs Pay to Fashion ?
What is the split of games? Is Fortnight so popular that fancy outfits count for 50% of all purchases? does it skew the numbers?
Shocking numbers but we need to drill down.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
The children.
Think of the children.
Won't someone think of the children?
Think of the children.
Won't someone think of the children?
ScaryBrandon
Banned
So many single guys around these days. Money that used to go to support a family is now available.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
This. Excellent point.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah Sony's financial report also lumped in DLC with other forms of MTX.
Only the Sony's of the world really have that level of data.
I'm most curious about what they'll do in the future; they were successful this last gen providing a platform for other MTX-laden games to thrive (and for Sony to profit off of), without really getting into the MTX game too much themselves.. but this gen could be different.
Destruction All-Stars for instance is obviously an MTX driven title.. the fact Sony moved it to PS+ is almost "free to play"-lite too.
$175 billion dollars generated in gaming for 2020.
Of that $175 billion, $128.6 billion was spent on "in game" purchases. That's 73 percent spent in games, rather than on games.
The "platform wars" of the past are over. It's no longer Sony vs Microsoft. It's no longer console vs PC. It's game vs game. Fortnite vs. World of Warcraft etc...
The push towards GAAS over the next 2-3 years will be intense.
GamesIndustry.biz presents… The Year in Numbers 2020
Christmas looms like a slightly obscured beacon of relief in the murky fog that is 2020, and here to guide you along th…www.gamesindustry.biz
First of all, you can`t put everything on the same basket.
There are two complete different industries competing for the consumer wallet.
One is the "tradicional" gamming market and the other is those mobile crap cashcows.... one would not even call the later gamming.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
This may help.
Mobile Gaming Statistics 2022
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www.wepc.com
The money on mobile is on cashgrabbers/gambling like apps disguised as games. That`s were the money is.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
People always think change will result in a negative outcome. So what if "in-game purchases have increased". Call of duty, GTA and Nintendo games have owned the best selling charts for years but do we see companies only releasing those type of games? ... No!
As the gaming market grows, demand for a variety of games will increase. Sure COD, GTA will still crucnh sells but other games will be able to make money too because of the increased size of the market.
As the gaming market grows, demand for a variety of games will increase. Sure COD, GTA will still crucnh sells but other games will be able to make money too because of the increased size of the market.
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
That sucks, people are dumb. Glad some companies still make games with actual value.
BarringGaffner
Member
Worth it!
I was there. I witnessed the exact moment it all went wrong...
reinking
Gold Member
You say that like it is a good thing.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Yikes so the main game now becomes a demo with the purpose of selling DLC. I find it odd because I tend to avoid DLC entirely except for the major ones like the Witcher 3's 10+ hour stuff.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
This is an assumption, you don't have any clear proof to support this.
We could be getting access to more games for less money, why would that be a bad thing?
The assumption in this topic is always negative but I think people need to learn how to look at both sides without having a bias for just "keeping things the way they have always been" just because it makes them comfortable.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
If a game doesn't offer good value right out the gate, who is going to buy a DLC for that game?
Judge a product by it's price and the content you get for that price. If you aren't willing to pay.. don't.
NullZ3r0
Banned
This is why GamePass makes sense for developers.$175 billion dollars generated in gaming for 2020.
Of that $175 billion, $128.6 billion was spent on "in game" purchases. That's 73 percent spent in games, rather than on games.
The "platform wars" of the past are over. It's no longer Sony vs Microsoft. It's no longer console vs PC. It's game vs game. Fortnite vs. World of Warcraft etc...
The push towards GAAS over the next 2-3 years will be intense.
GamesIndustry.biz presents… The Year in Numbers 2020
Christmas looms like a slightly obscured beacon of relief in the murky fog that is 2020, and here to guide you along th…
I read this sentence for the first time in 2005 and I still have to see an incomplete game (not because bugs or released too early) with contents to complete the game behind a paywall. Especially in an era with kickstarter campaigns and where games are so huge you need days to beat even without extra contents.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Sure, just like all Digital future was delivering cheaper games thanks to the middleman being cut out.... yep... we have a good example of what happens when game perceived value erosion happens and how the business model adapts: mobile games and F2P games. Yep, thanks but no thanks.
Games costing millions to make where my starting to play them is when they start trying to get me to spend more and more money (without a clear upper bound either... you buy Super Mario Odyssey for £59 you know what it gets you and that is it, you can enjoy yourself after that... you buy Skyrim? Same thing... and no, additional maps through DLC are not comparable to micro transactions in a F2P game).
Birgitte2004-2
Banned
There are a handful of games which launched with DLC included on the disc itself they shipped the original version of the game on. Street Fighter X Tekken for a famous example.
I think this qualifies as selling an incomplete game.
thelastword
Banned
The majority of these in-game transactions are not on consoles, they are on mobile.....I very much doubt Sony records it as part of their game revenue, but Sony has several mobile games under Pictures and Music.....
For example...
https://sonyreconsidered.com/sonys-...est-grossing-mobile-game-of-2019-cbb9bb5afc79
For example...
https://sonyreconsidered.com/sonys-...est-grossing-mobile-game-of-2019-cbb9bb5afc79
DLC on disk are not common, but yeah, your argument is valid.
My only doubt is to think how many DLCs are complete when the game is released and just delayed for some time.
jakinov
Member
I'm going to point out a couple of things.
The first thing is that of the $175 billion spent, that essentially half of that is from mobile where games mainly FREEMIUM and if not, are priced very low. So something like 60-65% (assuming that an estimated ~90% of revenue is IAP on mobile) that of all microtransactions (of the $129 billion) is coming from mobile.
Secondly, a lot of people here are making some crappy conclusions when looking at these aggregate numbers. People here are using these numbers that paints a broad stroke of the industry and using this as evidence of why games should not cost more. Some of you seemingly disregard that there are games like Fortnite and League of Legends that bring in billions of dollars in revenue are completely FREE to play and disregard that games are not monotonous products with varying costs. Not every game has added licensing cost like NBA or Spiderman. Not every game has a story mode that's going to require extra motion capturing, bigger maps, voice acting, and hiring writers. Not every game has the same scope. Not every game even has MTX. There's a bunch of little different things situations that affect how profitable a game actual is. So to look at these broad numbers and come to the conclusion that game prices shouldn't go up because there's a bunch of money being spent on MTX is flawed.
The first thing is that of the $175 billion spent, that essentially half of that is from mobile where games mainly FREEMIUM and if not, are priced very low. So something like 60-65% (assuming that an estimated ~90% of revenue is IAP on mobile) that of all microtransactions (of the $129 billion) is coming from mobile.
Secondly, a lot of people here are making some crappy conclusions when looking at these aggregate numbers. People here are using these numbers that paints a broad stroke of the industry and using this as evidence of why games should not cost more. Some of you seemingly disregard that there are games like Fortnite and League of Legends that bring in billions of dollars in revenue are completely FREE to play and disregard that games are not monotonous products with varying costs. Not every game has added licensing cost like NBA or Spiderman. Not every game has a story mode that's going to require extra motion capturing, bigger maps, voice acting, and hiring writers. Not every game has the same scope. Not every game even has MTX. There's a bunch of little different things situations that affect how profitable a game actual is. So to look at these broad numbers and come to the conclusion that game prices shouldn't go up because there's a bunch of money being spent on MTX is flawed.
