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[sprsk]

when is spannuuud?

 

[Batongen]

Has this been posted? I don't want to go through all the pages.

"The Advnaced Media Network has spoken to a number of Nintendo affiliates today at their booth in the San Jose Convention Center for the Game Developers Conference where it has been revealed that the price and release date pertaining to the launch of the Nintendo DS Lite in North America will indeed be released tomorrow during Satoru Iwata's keynote address."

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=3473

 

[Amir0x]

That makes sense. DS Lite price and stuff

 

[ThirdEye]

exactly like xbox and xbox 360 it seems. People should not get excited over the region free stuff, it seems it will be up to the publishers.

Huh? Xbox softwares are not region-free. All PS3 games support HDTV, and if you have HDTV you can play all PS3 games around world but on 360 you can't. Big difference here.

 

[jarosh]

when is spannuuud?

tomorrow 10:30 AM PST

edit: well, wait, i guess for you it's today...

 

[gofreak]

Gamespot have a rather comprehensive report here:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6146436.html

They make it sound like Warhawk was demoed live? (also make it sound hot, but..yeah ):

As he spoke, Jobe piloted a jet fighter through a massive in-air battle. In the back- and foreground, hundreds of enemy fighters engaged in "next-generation behavior" by dodging clouds of tracer fire and strafing massive airborne capital ships.

During his demo--which featured highly detailed graphics full of dynamic shadows, detailed explosions, and cloud effects--Jobe also revealed that Warhawk would be playable at E3.

Apparently it got "sustained applause".

Also, interesting comments - seems they are indeed gunning for MMORPGS:

Specifically, he said this was done to encourage "makers of massively multiplayer online role-playing-game-type products" to integrate into the network. Later, he would hold up the wildly popular MMORPG World of Warcraft, which boasts over six million subscribers, as a paradigm. "If World of Warcraft were a country, it would be bigger than Ireland," said Harrison. "That's what we would like to achieve in terms of community."

Haha, it's true :lol

Some more on online:

Using the mention of community as another segue, Harrison presented several slides which showed the interface of the PSNP. Using the PS3 game Formula 1 as a backdrop, he showed how up to three simultaneous video chat windows could pop up during gameplay via a minimalist, translucent heads-up display (HUD). Later slides showed how a player could send messages, check e-mail, scour friends lists, and send game requests all while in-game--and all using the same translucent HUD architecture.

Game requests? Not something i expected with an open online architecture. The online stuff actually sounds really really good!

Also, on Motorstorm:

The demo was a far cry from the trailer which wowed audiences at E3 2005, even showing slight frame-rate issues at times. However, the results were still impressive, as Kirkland guided a dune buggy through a plain of mud which dried in real time, eventually impeding the vehicle's progress. He explained the PS3's Cell had the ability to render sophisticated in-game dynamics, allowing wheels to drop in newly created ruts and dirt splattered onto walls to visibly dry.

Physics = yum.

Also have praise for Resistance.

 

[Doube D]

so when do we get footage?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

so should we expect to get any kind of media out of GDC? Or is this strictly a behind closed doors type of event?

 

[saelz8]

Has this been posted? I don't want to go through all the pages.

"The Advnaced Media Network has spoken to a number of Nintendo affiliates today at their booth in the San Jose Convention Center for the Game Developers Conference where it has been revealed that the price and release date pertaining to the launch of the Nintendo DS Lite in North America will indeed be released tomorrow during Satoru Iwata's keynote address."

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=3473

Good

 

[ironichaos]

Come on, this is 2006. Why hasn't anyone uploaded videos of the demos to the net yet?

Just poop 'em out on http://www.youtube.com/ It's not that difficult...what's difficult is this damn wait.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Cool that they are showing the wand with the analoge extension. It probably means that it will be included with the revo when it comes out and wont be just an add on. Im kinda relieved. And that shit seems TINY.

This was said in an IGN interview back when the controller was first shown. Nunchuk as pack-in, conventional shell sold seperately.

 

[levious]

I bet they're going region-free to combat modchips... take away a legitimate use for them.

so when do we get footage?

God of War 2, what more do you want?!

 

[KyanMehwulfe]

Come on, this is 2006. Why hasn't anyone uploaded videos of the demos to the net yet?

My understanding is that many companies hosting conferences, Sony included, were very strict about preventing video recording. I assume it's not a question about being able to upload but rather one if anyone even snuck in a device and was able to capture footage.

 

[Ponn]

Just a sudden train of thought I was having. What IF (very big IF) Sony hasn't been misleading everyone about price and numbers. What if they really do think 1 - 2 million PS3's will be plenty for a worldwide launch BECAUSE the PS3 is going to launch at around $1000. I know it's crazy talk and honestly I don't believe it, but just throwing it out there. I actually think reality will be $499.99 with HDD included.

 

[Amir0x]

Sony isn't suicidal. They may think they can get away with $499.99 (imo, they can't), but $999.99 is not only ridiculous it's also much more than the price of the components in PS3 and would go completely against the business model they had established up until this point.

 

[polg]

Just a sudden train of thought I was having. What IF (very big IF) Sony hasn't been misleading everyone about price and numbers. What if they really do think 1 - 2 million PS3's will be plenty for a worldwide launch BECAUSE the PS3 is going to launch at around $1000. I know it's crazy talk and honestly I don't believe it, but just throwing it out there. I actually think reality will be $499.99 with HDD included.

haven't they done it in the past?

 

[Juice]

WoW is bigger than Ireland.

Can we start some sort of gaming awareness campaign based on this fact? I think it'd blow the average person away to know that there are more orcs than Irish in the world.

 

[gofreak]

Depends what "irish" means Irish-residents, yeah

Anyway, i hope there's some footage up when i wake up tomorrow to mull over with breakfast Surely not too much to ask?

 

[Ponn]

Sony isn't suicidal. They may think they can get away with $499.99 (imo, they can't), but $999.99 is not only ridiculous it's also much more than the price of the components in PS3 and would go completely against the business model they had established up until this point.

Crazy talk I know. Just hitting the what if machine with thinglonger that is all. Or maybe this stale Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper I drank. Wait a minute, that was now cherry vanilla Dr. Pepper!

The one real place they can screw up at this point is the price point though and I guess i'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Still say $499.99 with the HDD will be the price point. Anything under I would be happy with and gladly eat crow over. I don't think they could stay at that price though for too long but they could get away with it for launch and a few months after.

 

[Loops]

never seen such weird news as right now...

Xbox360 games will be region free -> WOOHOO
if the developer decide so -> ...

PS3 will need a hdd to play games -> WOOHOO
but is it sure that it will come with the hardware -> ???

PS3 games will be region free -> WOOHOO
but are we sure the developers... -> ...

fed up with those fake good news... so we better have a free region ps3 !

 

[thorns]

So what about X360 game impressions from the playables?
Dead rising? battle for middle earth? sf2 ? top spin? nnn?

 

[acidviper]

Looks to be the biggest GDC evar. So how is GAF protecting itself from GDC? Are we going members-only, pics, and no OT forum?

 

[sorryaboutdresden]

http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=6981

Have Gears of War impressions been posted yet? Haven't seen any.

Epic Games held a press briefing today at its exposuite in the GDC. There, they proceeded to show off the Unreal 3 engine and specifically, how it has been used to create their next-generation games for the new consoles. Shane Caudle, was the point man for the presentation, began the presentation with a playable demo of Gears of War.

The level opened up with a in-game cinematic of a futuristic vehicle driving through a forested area during a storm. Dialogue seemed to indicate a situation at a nearby factory that the vehicle was heading to check on. After the cinematic ended, the playable character was out of his vehicle and walking around the level. the graphics were simply mind-blowing with normal mapped models everywhere and incredible lighting and shadows.

As Shane moved his player through the level, we would catch brief glimpses of creatures crawling about before disappearing. The sound effects were equally impressive as the rain and lightning crashes were quite realistic sounding as well. The game is played in a sort of third-person view, but Shane said it was more of a second-person view similar in the vein of Resident Evil 4. It was noted to be quite an effective camera placement to give the viewer both ample view of the action and creating a creepy mood and atmosphere at the same time.

After a few minutes of walking around, the creatures finally appeared entirely by swarming around the player, all the while screeching loudly and jumping about quite fast, so fast that Shane couldn't keep up and his player died, or rather, he stopped the demo before his player could be killed.

This game is truly a showpiece for the power of the Xbox 360, and it is clearly going to be one of the best games of 2006. Check back with Advanced Media for continuing coverage of this title as well as other games using the Unreal 3 engine.

Definitely can't wait for this game, but it doesn't take away from my hard-on for the PS3 that was pretty much viagrad today during the keynote.

 

[ypo]

Or people can look at Sony's own little system named PSP where games have been region free so far. All depends on how one wants to spin it.

 

[Bearillusion]

Is there info that can posted about Sony's plans for a XBLA type of service?

 

[GhaleonEB]

http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=6981

Have Gears of War impressions been posted yet? Haven't seen any.



Definitely can't wait for this game, but it doesn't take away from my hard-on for the PS3 that was pretty much viagrad today during the keynote.

I'll toss my hat in the "need footage" camp. GoW is being positioned as THE killer app for the 360 for 2006.

Is there info that can posted about Sony's plans for a XBLA type of service?

Check the summary in the first post, and the last three pages.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/impressionsArt.cfm?artid=11217

NEW MARIO BROS IMPRESSIONS

-World Map
-Throwback stuff
-Awesome awesome stuff
-asplode

Edit: Asplode here: http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=2989664#post2989664

 

[Bearillusion]

Check the summary in the first post, and the last three pages.

I couldn't find anything. I was talking about Live Arcade not just Live in general btw.

 

[MarkMacD]

re: the initial info post, Harrison said all PS3 games will -support- the HDD, not will 'require' them (at least, thats all he said at the breakfast.) A very important distinction.

 

[TheKingsCrown]

re: the initial info post, Harrison said all PS3 games will -support- the HDD, not will 'require' them (at least, thats all he said at the breakfast.) A very important distinction.

Good point. WTF; why doesn't Sony just figure out what it wants to do?

 

[snatches]

re: the initial info post, Harrison said all PS3 games will -support- the HDD, not will 'require' them (at least, thats all he said at the breakfast.) A very important distinction.

It doesn't matter how many times you say it Mark. Someone will turn up on the next page of the thread saying that the HDD is required and included with every machine and that it is old news. The power of denial is great with this board.

Hey, who is going to be on the podcast this week discussing the PS3 and Nintendo stuff from GDC? Bring Shane back on, he stirs the pot, and I like it. He like MGS a little too much though. For real.

 

[fse]

Didn't see this before, PS3 controller will be redesigned and unveiled at E3.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/22/sony-confirms-ps3-controller-redesign/

 

[Pedigree Chum]

re: the initial info post, Harrison said all PS3 games will -support- the HDD, not will 'require' them (at least, thats all he said at the breakfast.) A very important distinction.

I expect 2 SKU's, one with HDD and one without. But all devs will be pushed to utilize it (like MS has done with X360).

 

[mj1108]

It sounds like Sony may go the MS way and do the retard pack thing. Then with the online play, it sounds like they're going the MS route too with MS's Gold/Silver subscription plans.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen....

 

[Pedigree Chum]

It sounds like Sony may go the MS way and do the retard pack thing. Then with the online play, it sounds like they're going the MS route too with MS's Gold/Silver subscription plans.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen....

Its really not that big of a deal, for most users the retard pack (be it PS3/X360) + mem card (stick) is good enough. The premium version of these systems are to appease the hardcore not the mainstream.

 

[Shogmaster]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA! I SEE VENTS MUTHAFUCKAZZZZ!!!!!!!

Spoiler

I have no idea what that was about myself... Sorry. carry on.

 

[jarosh]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA! I SEE VENTS MUTHAFUCKAZZZZ!!!!!!!

Spoiler

I have no idea what that was about myself... Sorry. carry on.

yeah. 3 to be exact.

 

[BlueTsunami]

yeah. 3 to be exact.

:lol

Its like some type of scoring system

 

[meltpotato]

Its really not that big of a deal, for most users the retard pack (be it PS3/X360) + mem card (stick) is good enough. The premium version of these systems are to appease the hardcore not the mainstream.

i think a lot of what today was about contradicts that. Sony wants to see the industry develop into a digital distribution standard.

 

[dante786]

Its really not that big of a deal, for most users the retard pack (be it PS3/X360) + mem card (stick) is good enough. The premium version of these systems are to appease the hardcore not the mainstream.

im pretty sure thats not the case, the premium version is just a MUCH better value, in the case of the X360 and presumably the PS3. Forgetting all the other stuff included in the premium version, the harddrive alone makes it worthwhile, why would you want to buy a 30 dollar memory card you're going to have to buy more of when you could just be one and done with a harddrive, never having to worry about save files ever again. Not to mention the huge amounts of downloadable content you lose access to without a harddrive. I really dont know too many people who picked up the tard pack over the premium by choice, in fact i dont know any....

out of curiousity, did anyone make that choice?

 

[Willy Wanka]

Great news about the online service, it sounds really solid (and free!). I'm a bit annoyed that there is still no proper clarification on the HDD though. Also, it doesn't sound like the PS3 will be anymore region free than the Xbox 360.

All I really want to see are movies of the games, especially Motorstorm I hope someone was able to sneak a little footage of PS3 stuff out of there.

Edit - Also thanks to Amir0x for posting all the info on the first page. It saved me having to read through 20+ pages to search for the juicy bits.

 

[TekunoRobby]

TekunoRobby, I gotta ask...
You're saying what was shown was a far cry from this?

Tekunorobby seriously needs to watch the E3 trailer of Warhawk again.

He needs to rewatch the entire thing

"GDC essentially confirmed that everything game related Sony showed at E3 was purely rendered footage" = nonsense.

Does TekkunoRobby really think the Warhawk demo presentation at this GDC was worse looking than the Warhawk at last E3, or did he just forgot that the Warhawk video at last E3 wasn't really all that, and in fact was worse looking than the little video snippet of realtime footage from TGS?

Relax I'm on your side! I'm one of the guys who felt that overall the presentations were really strong and I'm amazingly happy that we finally got ACTUAL representations of the games. I took your advice however; I checked out the E3 video and gave you the benefit of the doubt. I still feel that Warhawk definitely wasn't up to the initial showing they had. Please don't interpolate that into me saying that they won't surpass the quality, I'm positive they will. Did they post the video of Warhawk already though or are you just commenting on screens? I guess you guys can do a side by side comparison which I unfortunately can’t at the moment.

I really liked Warhawk and I thought it had a nice showing with a good amount of enemies and large ships on screen with an unfortunately completely barren ocean. The overall enemy count from what I could tell didn't match the E3 video; I'll admit I could be wrong on that however the environment certainly wasn't as complex. However they had awesome dynamics on the ocean and great ray traced clouds.

Gofreak judging by what was shown and considering how early everything looked almost a year after those initial videos, one could come to that conclusion. I'm not saying it’s a unilaterially correct one, but it’s what I felt. Also notice that I said rendered not pre-rendered.

Ahhh Jim directly posted my horribly written impressions of the conference. I feel PRETTY DAMN embarrassed right about now since I’m so new to this journalist thing. I typed that up in my haste to get something for him ASAP. So yes I apologize to all of you who've read it, I know I suck!

 

[Mefisutoferesu]

Tekunorobby, could I ask you a favor? Seeing as we don't have access to the videos yet could I ask for a comparison? How doess the video of MotorStorm at GDC compare to the one below? I'm really bummed that I can't see the media for myself. My thanks in advance.

http://files.filefront.com/MotorstormRealTimewmv/;4432933;;/fileinfo.html

 

[BlueTsunami]

So yes I apologize to all of you who've read it, I know I suck!

Its cool TekunoRobby, I appreciate (I'm sure alot of other GAF'ers) the journalism. The comparisions to PS2 is kinda weird though. Can the games really be compared to the PS2 in some aspects?

 

[TekunoRobby]

GDC essentially confirmed that everything game related Sony showed at E3 was purely rendered footage and was no indication of the final product.

I'd like to clarify a bit. What I meant by "was no indication of the final product" is that it wasn't the actual game running in demo form like an alpha or a beta. I always prefer real-time demonstrations versus filmed ones and pre-rendered CG and we didn't get it with E3 aside from the various tech demos. Aside from them being a target render and a look into what the game will probably be or what they're working for I don't think I can sit there and say that the video is a guarantee of any way shape or form that the actual product will be like that aside from developer's word. Unfortunately it was my mistake and I was in an incredible haste to get a story out so I didn't pay that comment any mind. Another example of why I suck! :lol

 

[TekunoRobby]

Ok I'm getting kicked out of the press lounge. I'll post again when I get to the hotel after the awards show.

 

[SolidSnakex]

IGN has some longer impressions for Ratchet

Once the camera fully removed itself out of the tunnel, it quickly swooped downwards "Fifth Element-style" through a number of multi-level highways speeding past buildings and floating obstacles. After a couple of near-misses with the flying cars, the camera finally settled in a perched position overlooking a walkway. As the viewpoint stopped moving, police sirens started blaring in the background while an army of robotic soldiers began marching in unison down the sidewalk. Halfway through the march, a speeding car zoomed overhead at high velocity while several police cars (no doubt the source of the sirens heard earlier) chased after it. And just to make things clear as the trailer came to an end, a giant blimp with an electric "Ratchet and Clank" logo floated in and out of view as the image faded to black.

Needless to say, the trademark style of Ratchet and Clank made the game immediately obvious to those who had played the franchise once the video first popped up. Then again, we had never seen the franchise quite like this before. Shown in extremely high detail with plenty of animation, Ratchet PS3's city was certainly beautiful. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it was almost the best looking demo of the entire presentation -- second only to The Getaway.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/697/697720p1.html

 

[Wollan]

For those here who actually attended, please draw or use photoshop to replicate the PS3 hud. Please.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Sounds like a bit of sour grapes to us, but Microsoft's Director of Game Tech, Scott Henson, spoke some rather doubtful words about PS3's 1080p claims in an interview with Kikizo the other day. He states: "I think 1080p, just to address that directly, will be basically impossible. I think if you talk to any developer they will tell you that they will not have a performing game at 1080p."

http://www.engadget.com/

Hasn't UL (yah I know it looks bad) been confirmed to run in 1080p?

 

[Striek]

I really want to see Resistance + R&C PS3, Insomniac are super-talented. But I kind of want to wait until E3 as well where it'll be much, much more close to the final build.

http://www.engadget.com/

Hasn't UL (yah I know it looks bad) been confirmed to run in 1080p?

Their PR releases say 1080p, the station site says 1080i ; I would guess 1080p because the PR is most certainly 'newer', but who knows. Either way, of course its possible, theres nothing technically stopping it, its just the result....is rather 'meh'. I think GT5 will be the first game running in 1080p that does it justice though