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Switch is the GameCube done right
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
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I've always thought the Gamecube was by far Nintendo's most underrated console, it was a solid little device with third party support the big N would kill for today.
It just didn't get the respect it deserved because that was the Grand Theft Auto III era when gaming "grew up" and it just wasn't seen as "cool" enough.
xviper
Member
i was listing good games, you listed all the games, and they all sucks in comparison
Angry_Megalodon
Member
NOT AT ALL. Gamecube, as home console, is so much better than Switch
- TOP POWER
- TOP third party exclusive games
Switch is the perfection of the new strategy Nintendo adopted after Gamecube, the natural evolution from Wii. Gamecube is quite the opposite, both in hardware and game profiles.
The huge mistake made by Nintendo with gamecube was to design a hardcore console with a cute design (console and mini disks) that put off many potential buyers.
- TOP POWER
- TOP third party exclusive games
Switch is the perfection of the new strategy Nintendo adopted after Gamecube, the natural evolution from Wii. Gamecube is quite the opposite, both in hardware and game profiles.
The huge mistake made by Nintendo with gamecube was to design a hardcore console with a cute design (console and mini disks) that put off many potential buyers.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Yes, the design alone probably hurt the console a lot.
However I think they did a good job making it look kid friendly but not TOO childish, it still looked pretty sleek, sadly that's not what most people thought though.
The Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, though not quite as powerful as the Xbox.
But still, can you even imagine the idea of Nintendo having a more powerful console than Sony? It's hard to even believe there was a time when that was true.
PocoJoe
Banned
splatoon = boring CoD clone ( cod is boring too)
Octopath = good game
xenoblade = good game
ARMS = super boring beat em up
mario+rabbids = good but way too easy game
mario party = probably ok, havent played
mario tennis = same game with different graphics
While gamecube had tons of different kind of games from 3rd party devs, switch mainly has nintendo exclusives and some low budget low quality indies or half assed 3rd party games than run way worse than on ps4/xbone.
for cube I have 70 games, for switch I have kept zelda(port), xenoblade and mario+rabbids. Rest have been disapointing, octopath i borrowed and liked.
Problem with switch is that there are only few big titles, and they are almost all typical modern nintendo games, no variety. Cube had many horror and rpg games, switch only few after 2 years.
octiny
Banned
Oh, I know. I just didn't want to start any wars on here lol. Still remember when they unveiled that Rogue Squadron tech demo @ Spaceworld. So good.
Day 1 purchase if they ever release another on par with their counterparts.
JoeyWestSide
Member
The gc had different sounds when you hold z during the boot screen and further different sounds with multiple people. No competition.
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Huh? The Gamecube actually had games.
Ramzy
Member
Some of the comparisons you find on GAF are so weird.
The Game Cube was a product of its era.
- It's completely unique from other gaming platforms
Well yeah, look at the technology at the time. What did you want Nintendo to do in 2001? Release a tegra based console with detachable bluetooth controllers? 3D gameboy? Did you want another virtualboy?
- It's toy-like, but in a good way
Edgy was the 'thing' in 2001. Sony and Microsoft were all over it. In fact, i would say the Game Cube, was trying to differentiate itself from the competition. The Switch is a product of its time as well. It's a plastic slab with bright fluro controllers attached to it. Just the same as every single new mobile phone coming out is basically a rectangle slab.
- Better innovation with first party games
Again, 2001, what are you expecting here? Wind Waker took the series to new and interesting places and did genuinely evolve the experience. Wind Waker is still a beautiful game and garners generally positive reception even today.
- It gets the Console-handheld merger right
Starting to sound like a broken record here but TWO THOUSAND AND ONE, the GBA was basically the most advanced handheld outside of mobile phones with monochrome displays or basic java games running at 3fps.
- It targets adults, but doesn't pander to them
I don't think the Switch targets adults. The adults that the Switch appeals to are simply the generation who grew up playing Nintendo games and now have their own money to spend.
The Game Cube was a product of its era.
- It's completely unique from other gaming platforms
Well yeah, look at the technology at the time. What did you want Nintendo to do in 2001? Release a tegra based console with detachable bluetooth controllers? 3D gameboy? Did you want another virtualboy?
- It's toy-like, but in a good way
Edgy was the 'thing' in 2001. Sony and Microsoft were all over it. In fact, i would say the Game Cube, was trying to differentiate itself from the competition. The Switch is a product of its time as well. It's a plastic slab with bright fluro controllers attached to it. Just the same as every single new mobile phone coming out is basically a rectangle slab.
- Better innovation with first party games
Again, 2001, what are you expecting here? Wind Waker took the series to new and interesting places and did genuinely evolve the experience. Wind Waker is still a beautiful game and garners generally positive reception even today.
- It gets the Console-handheld merger right
Starting to sound like a broken record here but TWO THOUSAND AND ONE, the GBA was basically the most advanced handheld outside of mobile phones with monochrome displays or basic java games running at 3fps.
- It targets adults, but doesn't pander to them
I don't think the Switch targets adults. The adults that the Switch appeals to are simply the generation who grew up playing Nintendo games and now have their own money to spend.
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The Switch is part of the Wii family. The Joy Con is an evolution of Wiimote. The Switch's handheld configuration is basically the Wii U GamePad with detachable controllers. The Switch builds on the ideas introduced by the Wii consoles. The GC was a “traditional” home console with a single standard controller.
I'm not a big Nintendo fan, but the GC is in my view Nintendo's best home console – because it is the most PlayStation-like Nintendo home console. From the hardware design and visual identity (logo / adverts etc) to the non-Nintendo library – it all felt very Sony.
The distinctive cube chassis could have easily come from Sony. When I first saw a jet black GC in real life, I couldn't believe it came from the same company that came up with the hideous N64. It really felt as if Nintendo had finally matured during the GC era. I am reminded of the infamous GBA SP advert from that generation:
You'd expect something like that from Sony's marketing dept, but Nintendo?
For me, GC era Nintendo was Nintendo at its most exciting.
All these changes came shortly after Satoru Iwata take command of Nintendo
Yeah, it would have been interesting to see Nintendo explore that direction [attempting to court PS and Xbox gamers] instead of going down the family-friendly Wii path.
Jubenhimer
Member
How can you say they suck if you don't own a Switch?
Jubenhimer
Member
The GameCube didn't have that great of third party support, especially not compared to the PS2. The Switch already has decent support, and is continuing to get more and more. That's the key difference. Also, the ports on Switch usually aren't half-assed. Many of them run about as well as you can run them on Switch, and still manage to be good versions in their own right. Plus, you can take these games with you. That's kind of what some people forget about Switch ports. You sacrifice performance for mobility.
Switch already has a ton of platformers, fighting games, racers, RPGs, puzzle games, and sports titles all in just 2 years. Games are more ubiquitous now thanks to digital titles and indie developers, so the Switch has a big advantage over the GCN.
JimmyJones
Banned
Nintendo started doing weird experimental shit after the Gamecube and they are still doing it with the Switch. They need to release a normal games console and cut the crap.
Jubenhimer
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Why do that, when the console they have now is breaking all kinds of sales records both in Hardware and Software?
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No Word Count
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This is a weird comparison, honestly.
I don't see how it's "like the GameCube", other than the fact that it's a games consoles.
The Switch is just a good machine with good games and a unique selling point in it's portability. Nothing more, nothing else.
If anything, it's the Wii U done right.
I don't see how it's "like the GameCube", other than the fact that it's a games consoles.
The Switch is just a good machine with good games and a unique selling point in it's portability. Nothing more, nothing else.
If anything, it's the Wii U done right.
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Zog
Banned
Well, upgrading the Wii U battery costed $40, not $200 or more.
JimmyJones
Banned
Please don't remind me of how well this trash is performing.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Trash?
A console you can play on the tv and take on the go. It has 1800+ games. It’s fucking rad. What the hell is wrong with you?
This is why we can’t have nice things.
No Word Count
Member
Let the miserable people be miserable if they want to be.
Giving their contrarianism attention only feeds into what they want.
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
What I don't get is that you own one, hate it, and yet in the Direct thread the only thing you asked for was ports. Is the device trash because there's not enough ports...?
JimmyJones
Banned
HotPocket69
Banned
The Gamecube had games, so no
HotPocket69
Banned
Even the ports are trash
Doom
Arguably, the best game (and only reason to own the system) is because of a port which is Breath of the Wild.
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JimmyJones
Banned
Breath of the Wild is crap. I played to the second Divine Beast and dropped it because I couldn't take the pain any longer.
Zog
Banned
Also, it's a Wii U game that had it's second screen feature stripped so that the Wii U version wouldn't be superior to the Switch version. This open world trend was old years ago.
HotPocket69
Banned
Yeah no real dungeons hurt that game big time. Also the bosses sucked.