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Super Mario 64 has been ported to Windows
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Bullet Club
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That's pretty cool.
I wonder what mods are going to come out for it?
I wonder what mods are going to come out for it?
alucard0712_rus
Gold Member
How do we know that it's not emulation. Any evidence?
Orta
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Bullet Club
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McCheese
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It's the decompiled version with the Ultralib stuff replaced with SDL2, which isn't that much work compared to the amount of effort which went into the initial decompilation which was a 3 year project, but this is the first person who's been mad enough to actually distribute an exe which is where the streamers are getting it from.
Someone also made a Windows 95 build using DirectX "for the luls" which I tried out a few weeks ago.
As it's built from the source, in theory someone could put in the work to half all the physics / speeds and lock the game to 60 instead of 30. Weird to think we'll probably have an unofficial PC HD port of the game before the rumoured Switch versions even are announced.
Nintendont etc.
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Andrew Korenchkin
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Would love to see this be completed:
McCheese
Member
I guess that depends on which direction you want to see a Mario 64 remake take.
The source code really shows it was one of Nintendo's first 3D games, there is a lot of low-level code jank and the way the N64 natively renders graphics means the entire graphics loop is a bit alien by modern standards, it puts these tiny textures into super-fast memory one at a time then declares the model geometry within a procedural function which is executed by the graphics chip.
The result is that it's going to be quite hard to modernize it, there is no standard "model" files as such to swap out, so you would need to write tools to convert back and forth and simulating the old rendering method on modern hardware is incredibly inefficient. So you would really just have to throw a big chunk of code away and start from scratch with a more typical modern render pipeline.
Another approach is to take an already known engine like Unreal, and then replicate the bits you want to keep - so the physics, movement, AI, scripting behaviour etc. But even if you did all this it wouldn't quite feel like Mario 64, Unreal engine does have its own way of doing things which in some cases you cannot override, and contradict how Mario 64 originally handled stuff (i.e. frame-pacing, responsiveness, animation tweening etc).
My 2 cents is I would like people to run with the decompiled code and start from there, so it's a sort of spiritual revision 3 of Mario 64.
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phil_t98
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I would be just happy to see the game use higher res textures, the game is perfect as it is but limitations of the N64 meant the textures were low res and blurry.
Codes 208
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Or even Majoras mask at a framerate higher than 18fps
Ikutachi
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Peach on the stained glass window is facing the wrong way and Mario isn't supposed to be able to triple jump without momentum.
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stranno
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I guess 60 could break everything: Physics, logic, animations, etc.
Lionel Richie
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This is what actual games preservation looks like, we only get glimpses of it and it's always awesome.
nkarafo
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I was hoping, since the source code is there, to alter/fix those so the game can run at 60fps.
Stuart360
Member
Its surprising how good N64 games can look when run at much higher resolutions. The same cant be said of Saturn or PS1, which can actually look WORSE at higher resolutions because not only do you still get blocky unfiltered textures, warping, and polygons flickering in and out of existence, but higher resolutions add gaps between polygon seems lol.
I was very young when N64 came out, and not knowing tech at the time, i thought it 'must be some new kind of movie style tech'. Little did i know that it was just filtered textures and correct perspective polygons. The N64 was basically the first console to do modern graphics, just way worse compared to today.
I was very young when N64 came out, and not knowing tech at the time, i thought it 'must be some new kind of movie style tech'. Little did i know that it was just filtered textures and correct perspective polygons. The N64 was basically the first console to do modern graphics, just way worse compared to today.
Spukc
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Looking nice
moniker
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With enough time and effort, sure.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
"runs better than emulation"
How?
Not all the games runs that good on a emulator, so a port could be the best choice for those games. Mario 64 is not one of these. People in the early 2000's was running Mario 64 smooth. One can even argue that sounds better because of development manbo-jambo, but maybe that's it
Maybe Jet Force Gemini is the better choice. Microsoft will probably never release a port of the Xbox version...
How?
Not all the games runs that good on a emulator, so a port could be the best choice for those games. Mario 64 is not one of these. People in the early 2000's was running Mario 64 smooth. One can even argue that sounds better because of development manbo-jambo, but maybe that's it
Maybe Jet Force Gemini is the better choice. Microsoft will probably never release a port of the Xbox version...
PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
let me know when someone mods it with modern visuals
JimboJones
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Widescreen and 60 fps, unf...
Hope that the rumoured remake/port is going to at least address these things, but sadly with Nintendo you never quite know what you’re going to get. Could be anything from a worse performing n64 version to a full on remake...
Hope that the rumoured remake/port is going to at least address these things, but sadly with Nintendo you never quite know what you’re going to get. Could be anything from a worse performing n64 version to a full on remake...
sid2vicious
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I wish Nintendo would port these games themselves, they're sleeping on easy money here. Fuck'em, if they won't the community will, and Nintendo gets jack shit!
JimboJones
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jts
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Doesn’t seem that weird to me. It’s a 20+ year game and out there there’s unlimited man-hours and no business agenda, so if anything can be done it just gets done.
diffusionx
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I don't think a PC port of a 1996 game that everyone has played would be a big money maker.
Unreal
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GPU's control panel
cyberheater
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Widescreen Mario looks amazing.
sid2vicious
Banned
You'd be surprised. Before Steam came into the picture, many people used to pirate games. Now Steam is one of the biggest gaming platform there is making millions. If Nintendo did something similar, even if just focusing on their older games, people will flock at the opportunity of repurchasing the games legally, regardless whether they previously played the games or not, nostalgia will surely bring them back.
Kenpachii
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Craig of War
Banned
True that and same for Sony
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Scotty W
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This reminds me of the fanatical excitement of Tool fans to be able to listen to the same music on Spotify that we have been listening to for 20 years.
