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Star Trek reboot-verse now marketed as Kelvin Timeline
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MisterHero
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Transistor
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Wait, there are people saying the JJ timeline isn't a reboot?
Eh, they did a lot of the things that get done with a comic reboot. They changed the ages/origins of some of the characters, sometimes dramatically so.
Bobby Roberts
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The Okudas are slick huh
MisterHero
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Kirk's origin is different because of a chain of events that happened in the future, not arbitrarily so.
A comic company wants their flagship character to be cooler, so they just decide to rewrite every freaking character so that one character doesn't have red underpants. That is arbitrary.
Everything that happens in the Kelvin timeline is because a giant enemy warship from the future tried to destroy Earth. Kirk never living on Tarsus, Pike completely avoiding his radiation accident, the Federation/Klingons towards militarization.
There are some inconsistencies, like Kirk possibly being lightyears away from his birthplace in Riverside, Iowa. Or STXI treating Kirk and Spock as the same age, etc. but that is being pedantic. What are other arbitrary changes in STXI?
Steve Youngblood
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I can't help but be reminded of Marge vs the Monorail here.
Mayor Quimby: And now, I'd like to turn things over to our Grand Marshall, Mr. Leonard Nimoy.
Leonard Nimoy: [referring to the monorail] I'd say this vessel could do at least Warp Five.
[crowd laughs]
Mayor Quimby: And let me say, "May the Force be with you."
Leonard Nimoy: [annoyed] Do you even know who I am?
Mayor Quimby: I think I do. Weren't you one of the Little Rascals?
Soapbox Killer
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Wait, so could Q jump into this timeline and still know the further Picard? Or is his powers still limited to a single temporal continuum? I would think the latter since "All Good Things..." makes it seem like even tangents couldn't afford Q a lack of power.
Ok that might be the geekiest thing I have ever typed.
Ok that might be the geekiest thing I have ever typed.
Tal Shiar Agent
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The comics aren't canon. They never were. The only things for Trek that are canon are what's on screen or directly from the word of God themselves. Comics, books, video games, etc are not canon. They can be made canon if referenced on or adapted to screen, but it's best to not consider what happens in comics, even tie-ins, to be part of the lore.
MisterHero
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Countdown at least is canon until it's not. I have to unfortunately concede overall though; the comics series was adapting stories from the five year mission. Even Into Darkness happens before that.
It could be canon if the Animated Series could become canon though! (maybe)
lastplayed
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Even the Kelvin was a retcon/reboot with all the crew wearing Enterprise badges.
Ginger Hail
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This post reminded me of a particular guide to the races of Star Trek.
Anyway, they had to come up with some designation sooner than later. Name makes sense.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
So will the new TV show take place in the Kelvin timeline or the original one? Or some completely different one?
Bobby Roberts
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Agreed.
To me, Anton Yelchin (RIP) and Karl Urban are the standout performances in the new cast that sort of evoked the spirit of the original cast while simultaneously making the roles their own. Quinto's Spock isn't bad either considering, but Nimoy's voice was one of a kind and his performances are a higher bar to reach.
Shadow Hog
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This whole story was a fun read coming right off of binge-watching all of DS9 for the first time, not gonna lie.
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