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Stadia

Stadia

  • Will die in 2021

    Votes: 130 45.0%
  • Will die before the next gen (PS6)

    Votes: 85 29.4%
  • Will be kinda sucessful

    Votes: 59 20.4%
  • Will beat the PS5

    Votes: 15 5.2%

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Legenscary

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On their investor call today they said they only plan on ever releasing 1 more patch on Stadia...seems rather obvious why (a huge waste of money for them really.)

Part of that could be that it's actually stable on Stadia. They have bigger fish to fry on other platforms.
 

Legenscary

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This article is so poorly written..

Maybe on GeForce now; but on Stadia the game runs nowhere near "high" settings, and has no ray tracing.. which this article tries to frame as being important at the beginning then hand-waves it away for Stadia.



Why would I ever want to use a service like GeForce now where I have to wait in line to play?

Stadia isn't going to compare to a solid gaming PC but if your FPS is unstable Stadia might be a better alternative, especially if you don't have an Xbox Series X.




The image quality is great:

 
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Fat Frog

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Still, in my opinion there's an important image quality difference between the 4k Stadia stream (be it 1600P or whatever it is), and the 1080P GeForceNow stream. I don't think the RTX/higher density of the Geforce now is really an advantage when compared to the 4K Stadia stream.

Over 32' TV: 4K Stadia > Geforce Now

Mobiles/Tablets: Geforce Now > 4K Stadia
 

Legenscary

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The 1.04 patch seems to have fixed some image quality issues I noticed in the performance mode on Stadia. It was actually something I also noticed in comparatives on the Series X version as well prior to the latest patch on the Series X.

The latest patches fixed some of the overall blurriness of the game world, particularly around unnamed NPCS at distance and up close. The Stadia patch confirms my suspicions about this. Performance mode now looks a lot better and seems to maintain stable 60fps pretty well.
 

Bittermich

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Why would I ever want to use a service like GeForce now where I have to wait in line to play?

Stadia isn't going to compare to a solid gaming PC but if your FPS is unstable Stadia might be a better alternative, especially if you don't have an Xbox Series X.




The image quality is great:


ouch. Stadia running cyberpunk better than PS5? Wtf
 

Legenscary

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Big image quality fixes in 1.04 for Stadia. It's weird that this isn't in the patch notes. Oddly, you can see the same kind of blurriness/haziness issues in the Series X version of Cyberpunk pre-patch in this vid:

 

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Probably the biggest Achilles heel of Stadia is patch management. As an example, all platforms except Stadia are running Cyberpunk patch 1.04, while Stadia is still at 1.02 and it doesn’t look that will change anytime soon (and please, don’t give me the shit-line that the Stadia version is not buggy)

It's running 1.04 already?
 
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Fat Frog

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A product that’s more niche than the Wii U because of the requirements was never going to get a look in with the established console giants. Not even Google can magically give everyone amazing internet, so it’s an instant failure. Maybe in 10-20 years, but even then it’s hardly going to take off in areas without high speed internet when they can buy a disc for another console.
That's what i thought.
In fact, many european countries are quickly abandoning copper networks because it's more expensive. Spain has already over 60% of optic internet. My country is almost at 30% but the end of copper is scheduled for 2023 and they didn't lie (optic cables just arrived near my city in a little town of 10000 people... it's growing soooo fast. In addition, average connections like mine are already decent for Stadia...

Fiber in Asia is huge (don't know who will take advantage of it, but the market is gigantic. In 2017, 80% of chinese villages had optic cable internet !!!)

Sure America is late (only 10% + data cap) but many countries all over the world have opportunities for cloud gaming)
 
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G-Bus

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Cyberpunk enticed me enough to give Stadia a try. Went with the pro package for the free month. Got me $10 off cyberpunk so what ever.

Did a quick browse of the free games they offer for pro subs and claimed risk of rain 2 and super hot. Two games I've wanted to play for a while now. Nothing else of interest on the quick scroll through.

Only played for an hour or two and it's funny seeing this game run on a 10 year old laptop. Have decent internet and everything runs smoothly. So far I'm impressed with how well it works. Forgot I was even streaming the game until I quit and I'm back to the chrome browser.

Going to keep an eye on how much data I'm using to see if I even need the unlimited. $15 for that plus the $12/m for stadia plus the price of games.... Not so sure.
 

Koolhandmike

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Overall, I'm enjoying the Stadia but it absolutely eats data. Especially when cranked up to 4K/60 FPS. A typical day I'll use about 15-20 gigs but my highest in a single gaming session was almost 60 gigs. Unlimited is the only way to go if I want to keep gaming on this platform.

So yeah, I think it will be kind of successful.
 

borborygmus

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We're fortunate the tech isn't sufficiently performant to replace self-owned hardware, because streaming opens the door to some very cynical corporate practices.

I voted "before ps6" because Google's business decisions are opaque and counterintuitive and normally I'd expect them to pull the plug now, and they never do what I expect, but this thing definitely has no future unless we suddenly learn how to do quantum entangled data transfers.
 
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Thanati

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Probably the biggest Achilles heel of Stadia is patch management. As an example, all platforms except Stadia are running Cyberpunk patch 1.04, while Stadia is still at 1.02 and it doesn’t look that will change anytime soon (and please, don’t give me the shit-line that the Stadia version is not buggy)
No, Stadia’s version has also been patched to the latest.
 

PrimeX

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Stadia is in my mind for quite some time now. As I am not prepared to invest in any of the new gen consoles, but I still want to enjoy some games like Doom Eternal or CP, Stadia could be what I need.
I have some doubts though and maybe you guys could ease them up:
- Is that Stadia controller any good or should I wait for PS5 controller support? As far as I know the PS5 controller is not compatible yet
- For a 65" OLED is the visual quality in general any good? I know is a game-based question but do you enjoy the visuals or not?
- I am puzzled by the subscription type. Once I pay the monthly fee, I can play any game from Stadia or just some minor releases and the big games I still have to buy?
 

Thanati

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Stadia is in my mind for quite some time now. As I am not prepared to invest in any of the new gen consoles, but I still want to enjoy some games like Doom Eternal or CP, Stadia could be what I need.
I have some doubts though and maybe you guys could ease them up:
- Is that Stadia controller any good or should I wait for PS5 controller support? As far as I know the PS5 controller is not compatible yet
- For a 65" OLED is the visual quality in general any good? I know is a game-based question but do you enjoy the visuals or not?
- I am puzzled by the subscription type. Once I pay the monthly fee, I can play any game from Stadia or just some minor releases and the big games I still have to buy?
I really like the stadia controller as it feels similar to the original Xbox 360 (although not quite as good but there again, nothing is :) )

you can play in either 720, 1080 or 4K and the visual quality is great.

the payment option IS confusing. If you pay $9.99 you get access to a load of free games every month and that’s where you get the 4K. However, you still need to buy any other game; Cyberpunk for example.

the free tier gets you access to the streaming but no free games and you have to buy the games. Also, free is only 1080.

hope this helps!
 
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Agent X

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P PrimeX , I think T Thanati did a great job of answering your questions.

I myself can't shed much light on your first two questions myself. I usually play from a laptop PC with a 15" 1080p screen, using a PS4 DualShock 4 controller. I will say that on my setup, the image quality is excellent

- I am puzzled by the subscription type. Once I pay the monthly fee, I can play any game from Stadia or just some minor releases and the big games I still have to buy?

Stadia Pro gets you up to 4K streaming, and an "instant collection" of games, kind of like PlayStation Now or Xbox Game Pass. There are roughly 30 games in the library now. They usually add about 4-6 new games a month, and remove a few as well...but any games that you've previously added are still linked to your account as long you have an active Stadia Pro subscription (so it's like PlayStation Plus or Xbox Games with Gold, in that regard).

For the free tier, you only have access to games that you purchased. That said, apparently Destiny 2 and Super Bomberman R Online (and I think Crayta, too) can be "purchased" and played in some capacity for free.

Stadia Pro has a free trial, so you could give it a try and see how it works with your current hardware arrangement. Or, if you don't want to do that, maybe try and access one of the games I mentioned in the paragraph above.
 
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aries_71

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Ah sorry no, you’re right. 1.05 is coming. They’d just updated 1.04.

It was just updated to version 1.05 today. Faster than I thought probable.

I have to say that I’m very impressed with Stadia. Almost 40 hours at Cyberpunk and had zero crashes. I’ ll repeat that, zero crashes.

Impressive.
 
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Thanati

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It was just updated to version 1.05 today. Faster than I thought probable.

I have to say that I’m very impressed with Stadia. Almost 40 hours at Cyberpunk and had zero crashes. I’ ll repeat that, zero crashes.

Impressive.
Ah, thanks for the update....on the....update :)

I’ll try it out this evening. Nice not having to download an update and it’s just there.

same here for crashes, I’ve had zero. Encountered quite a few funny bugs though :)
 

Fat Frog

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Ah, thanks for the update....on the....update :)

I’ll try it out this evening. Nice not having to download an update and it’s just there.

same here for crashes, I’ve had zero. Encountered quite a few funny bugs though :)
To be honest, I finally had a very bad experience with Stadia a few days ago (second run of the 1.04 patch), i had sound glitches, and slowdown every 5 minutes (with a weak 15 mbps non optic connection). It was quite awful but tonight i just had my best experience. (1.05 patch ?)
The IQ was just ok (while the graphics were very good) but the animation, the latency were silky smooth, it was like local play without any framedrops, crashes or anything (never had crashes though). Keep in mind i don't have optic cable (yet). My only concern was the UI, it's so fucking small...
 

Thanati

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To be honest, I finally had a very bad experience with Stadia a few days ago (second run of the 1.04 patch), i had sound glitches, and slowdown every 5 minutes (with a weak 15 mbps non optic connection). It was quite awful but tonight i just had my best experience. (1.05 patch ?)
The IQ was just ok (while the graphics were very good) but the animation, the latency were silky smooth, it was like local play without any framedrops, crashes or anything (never had crashes though). Keep in mind i don't have optic cable (yet). My only concern was the UI, it's so fucking small...
Yeah, the UI on cyberpunk is awful! Also, red text on a black background. Let’s pick the worst colors for UI design :)
 

aries_71

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Hey, fellow Stadians, new Pro games are out. I’ve been playing Figment, a nice little adventure game. Highly recommend.
 

Romulus

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I couldn't navigate the main screen to start the free trial or anything. It just keeps bringing me back to the main menu with all the suggestions about connection and controller issues. It was the most confusing site I've ever used. I signed up to use the free trial and it was just a loop of confusion on how to get it to work. My ps4 controller didn't work, nothing and I easily use it on steam or other sites, can't scroll on the store to look at games when I just seconds before was surfing on other sites fine.. Fuck this.
 

Agent X

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I couldn't navigate the main screen to start the free trial or anything. It just keeps bringing me back to the main menu with all the suggestions about connection and controller issues. It was the most confusing site I've ever used.

That's strange. I use a DualShock 4 connected to a USB port on my PC. Stadia recognizes it as soon as I flick a stick.

Are you attempting to access Stadia using the Chrome browser? If you're using a different browser, then that could be the problem.
 

Romulus

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That's strange. I use a DualShock 4 connected to a USB port on my PC. Stadia recognizes it as soon as I flick a stick.

Are you attempting to access Stadia using the Chrome browser? If you're using a different browser, then that could be the problem.

Yes chrome. I checked for an update too. I use my ds4 for steam too with no problem.
 

Spukc

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Will die in 2021 ??

that poll result tho nr1 pick
damn gaf time machine :messenger_sunglasses:
 
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Fat Frog

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Today Google is hiring engineers for Stadia. (it seems locked they won't close the service in december then).

45% of Gaf is already fired.

The two realistic remaining choices are:

- Stadia will die before the Playstation 6.
(not impossible at all since the profits seems kinda low and Google is not a patient company)

- Stadia will be kknda successful.
I still bet on this one since the small Stadia community buy a lot of game and is very vocal. Could be enough to maintain the service alive until the youtube click and play in 2022 (won't be a tsunami though since it won't be the complete open version), the next gen games and the expansion to many others countries. (3-5 millions users isn't huge but Stadia is only in 22 countries and their marketing wasn't clear, efficient)