vito_don_corleone_
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Well, Unreal Engine is using royalties system so whatever money Microsoft will make on selling those exclusives, 5% of it goes to Epic. From now on, part of it (very small part though) will go to Sony...
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Well, Unreal Engine is using royalties system so whatever money Microsoft will make on selling those exclusives, 5% of it goes to Epic. From now on, part of it (very small part though) will go to Sony...
Psykodad
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Ascend
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Sony released several behind the scenes videos of devs talking about taking advantage of PS5 hardware along with the PS blog posts, and not once did they mention anything other than SSD being used for loading, with ratchet being the sole exception.
If Sony themselves wont tout these features then why are we assuming that they will have it?
Entroyp
Member
Yea, this sounds about right. Although it’s more fun to see people going “told you so” and trying to discredit any positive feedback from Epic
Psykodad
Banned
Pop-up/pop-in is loading issue, isn't it?
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LostDonkey
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Tim Sweeney Sony Shill confirmed?
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
nope. streaming which is tied to vram. i was under the impression that ssd would help with streaming assets faster but thats clearly not the case or sony wouldve advertised it.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Any gif makers want to make a gif?
Tony stark (ps5) says to his daughter (epic)
I love you
Daughter (epic says) I love you 250 million
Tony stark (ps5) says to his daughter (epic)
I love you
Daughter (epic says) I love you 250 million
Honey Bunny
Member
I would like a re-run of all those threads where Epic blows smoke up Sony's ass in light of this news
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Uh oh, Psykodad must have called in reinforcements to defend Sony's & Sweeny's totally unbiased PS5 shilling
Ascend
Member
Directly from the opening post;Yea, this sounds about right. Although it’s more fun to see people going “told you so” and trying to discredit any positive feedback from Epic
This close relationship was underscored in May when Epic first showed the upcoming Unreal Engine 5 graphics running on a PlayStation 5.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Unreal ps5?
xiseerht
Member
At the end of the day. The better Epic does , the more profit Sony gets from them. To say that Epic will be completely unbiased towards Sony is just crazy talk. They will have a natural bias towards Sony . Now it does not mean Epic will screw over Xbox. But PS5 might get some betas first , demos first , etc. And I don't see why Sony would put their games on Steam now.
Kagey K
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GHG
Member
No, you don't understand, this was a move for the console wars and nothing else.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Ya.
Sony just front loaded the deal, so instead of Epic getting a cut out of an unknown number of games sales, they'll get no cut or a reduced cut. But got a lump sum instead.
Psykodad
Banned
That's what it's also designed to do, if I'm not mistaken. Going by Road to PS5.
Besides, I understand that it's a rendering issue, but you need data to render. No data, no rendering.
I'm fine on my own.
All that's needed is a single quote from a dev about, or example of, a third party game where PS5 shows an advantage over XSX due to it's SSD over the course of next-gen.
I'll just wait patiently.
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Airbus Jr
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Thats a negative since jim ryan already making emphasis of the importance of first party game on playstation platform
you can however expect some kind of playstation in game content like skin from epic in their game( godfall, fortnite etc)
01011001
Banned
stop listening to PR crap... this is absolutely also tied to some epic store stuff
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Airbus Jr
Banned
Im just telling is for what it is
I trust statement of Playstation CEO over wild speculation from some random guy on Neogaf
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
So is John Carmack?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yep. i called it as soon as i heard Horizon Zero dawn coming to PC, and i was told it was spreading FUD.Well that PS5 game cover reveal did not include: Only on Playstation, which on the PS4 covers it did.
First look: Box art for upcoming PS5 games
A quick update for our fans — here’s your first look at the box art for PS5 games you’ll be seeing on store shelves this holiday, starring Marvel Super Hero Miles Morales. Any thoughts on the new look? https://blog.playstation.com/2020/07/09/first-look-box-art-for-upcoming-ps5-games/www.neogaf.com
Sony will be launching all their exclusives on PC in a couple of years max.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Well that PS5 game cover reveal did not include: Only on Playstation, which on the PS4 covers it did.
First look: Box art for upcoming PS5 games
A quick update for our fans — here’s your first look at the box art for PS5 games you’ll be seeing on store shelves this holiday, starring Marvel Super Hero Miles Morales. Any thoughts on the new look? https://blog.playstation.com/2020/07/09/first-look-box-art-for-upcoming-ps5-games/
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Bladed Thesis
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polybius80
Member
when you stream content you are loading game assets
so if sony dont tell you that a faster drive stream data faster than another slower drive then is not true?
it remind me a user in this forum that said that data originally stored in a slower medium will keep being reading slow despite having that same data in a faster medium, it was something about the blu-ray, was a funny discussion at first
did your parents told you that you cannot fly like superman or you found out the hard way?
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Leyasu
Banned
Only the PS5 computer entertainment system, with it's SSD and I/O made from pure unicorn dust is capable of giving us highest resolution benjamins at the speed and quantity needed.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Someone on Reeee said they should have used the money to make Ape Escape 3.
Knitted Knight
Banned
Real talk Phil been investing in Epic by using Unreal Engine 4 for almost every exclusive game there is (unlike Sony) yet Sweeny treats the competition like Gold in a console war year. Either Phill is a cuck, and some Xbox fans idolize a cuck or Phill only cares about PC (reason why he brought Xbox exclusives over) and its only Xbox gamers who are on the hook. A lot of stuff just doesn't make sense to me here. What's going on?
I'm old to remember EA allied with Xbox at the beginning of this console gen to push a power move touting strategic partnerships.... then came back begging and all apologetic with free EA games at PSX to please Sony's base and fans. Only when Sony deemed the punishment was enough, only then they allowed EA Access on PS. That's how you handle this.
I'm old to remember EA allied with Xbox at the beginning of this console gen to push a power move touting strategic partnerships.... then came back begging and all apologetic with free EA games at PSX to please Sony's base and fans. Only when Sony deemed the punishment was enough, only then they allowed EA Access on PS. That's how you handle this.
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OptimistPrime
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"Things only matter until I'm wrong about them."
-- Some People in this Thread
-- Some People in this Thread
LordOfChaos
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I'm kind of more confused now about what exactly a 1.5% stake is expected to do.
It's for "working closely"...Which they doing before? It's not like this amount of stake is enough to shaft any other large platform. I guess we just won't know, but it might be more funding towards tailoring the engine for Sony more. And that doesn't have to just mean Playstation, with Unreal increasingly being used for movies and TV.
It's for "working closely"...Which they doing before? It's not like this amount of stake is enough to shaft any other large platform. I guess we just won't know, but it might be more funding towards tailoring the engine for Sony more. And that doesn't have to just mean Playstation, with Unreal increasingly being used for movies and TV.
Aion002
Member
A The Legend of Dragon Remake or making a JRPG studio would the ideal....
Fuck Epic! They killed Paragon!
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
The following image is a meme:
OMG I am so dying this is so good, it's EPIC (no pun intended- well maybe kind of)
sonomamashine
Member
Anyone misleading anyone is a joke, i'm team neutral.
Airbus Jr
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Handy Fake
Member
I knew I shouldn't have looked into this thread.
I see critical thinking has taken its leave.
*gently closes door*
I see critical thinking has taken its leave.
*gently closes door*
tryDEATH
Member
notice how he didn't say there was no marketing deal. He said there was no secret deal. And indeed it's not a secret. It's quite obviously a marketing collaboration between the two. Do we need an official statement of all the games shown for Inside Xbox to know that it was a marketing collaboration? No. So why is it needed for the UE5 demo?
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Gran turismo is a good way to make a showcase of specs. Note: I am not fan of the simulator but maybe with the VR will be different If you've not done it, sim-racing in VR is next-level. My first try was with an Oculus DK2 using LiveForSpeed, and I ended up ordering a headset within hours of...
When they talk about the PS5 really enabling them to do X, they are saying it that way because they have a partnership and marketing deal with Sony. It does NOT mean that ONLY the PS5 can do that.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Whoever said that might have been mistaken with that "XsX will have instant access to 100gigs at 4.4GB/s news headline" https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox-velocity-architecture-100-gb-is-instantly-accessible-by-the-developer-with-a-i-o-throughput-of-4-8-gb-s.1532436/#post-257451660 Definitely...
And if you can't see the obvious partnership between Epic and Sony here, I don't know what to tell you. Epic is trying to make their own engine look as awesome as possible so that it gets wide adoption. Sony is trying to make the PS5 look as powerful as possible, so they sell more consoles and games.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
A LOT of reminders about how the triangle density scales with the GPU though ;) Well spotted, even if true.
It's about money, obviously... And why do you think PS exclusives are starting to pop up on the Epic Game Store?
Whether Epic pushed Sony to deliver this I/O is possible, but is still speculation. The fact is that they are partnered up, and both are working together to make money. Obviously, they are going to talk each other up.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
I just realized something... With Epic demonstrating ripping film assets from Quixel and Z-Brush proving how good content can look on early PS5 hardware, can you imagine how Sony 1st parties can do even better on final devkits... WITH ATOM VIEW??? *faints*
And I bet those were among the posts that got me thread-banned from there... But wait. There is more!
Even though saying this in here can possibly get me killed, it was a marketing partnership between Sony and Epic.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Way higher just the announcement of the reveal will be worth a dozen pages :) Edit: We are doing about 10 pages a day if the announcement comes with a teaser image that may be worth 20 pages. With over 2 weeks to go we will be pushing 2150 is my guess. We should have a poll on which page...
Yeah because it makes total sense for the developer of a multiplatform engine to advertise and keep mentioning one specific console every chance he gets, even when it's not relevant to what he is explaining.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
It's in his Twitter replies when pushed by someone to make a comparison. He's also equally unable to give any indication when asked what kind of PC specs are required, saying he doesn't know, but we'll be able to benchmark UE5 soon enough. He's very clear on the distinction between engine and...
And the best one... Where I posted an article by Forbes, saying there most likely was a marketing deal, only to get slammed, ridiculed, accused of 'copying opinions' and a bunch of other nonsense;
Right now I feel like Shepard talking to the Council. Let me just throw this here.;
The simplest explanation is probably the right one here, that Epic has some sort of marketing deal in place with Sony and PlayStation, either for this presentation specifically (which was in effect an ad for the potential and power of the PS5) or perhaps more broadly with more collaborations to come down the line.
As a part of marketing campaigns, you often get notes as a stipulation of the arrangement where you’re not supposed to mention or promote the competition of the entity you’ve done the deal with. In this case, I could easily see the Epic team being told before this “please don’t mention Xbox,” hence all the back-breaking linguistic twists and turns they did to avoid mentioning it at all.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
PS5 tab has been there for a while. Wayback Machine says it's been there since March 19, the day after Mark Cerny's The Road to PS5 talk. EDIT: It's now been 2 months already since the talk. Man... We're that much closer. Almost to June already.
The truth is always revealed... All it takes is time...
Please stop it, too many receipts.
Andodalf
Banned
notice how he didn't say there was no marketing deal. He said there was no secret deal. And indeed it's not a secret. It's quite obviously a marketing collaboration between the two. Do we need an official statement of all the games shown for Inside Xbox to know that it was a marketing collaboration? No. So why is it needed for the UE5 demo?
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Gran turismo is a good way to make a showcase of specs. Note: I am not fan of the simulator but maybe with the VR will be different If you've not done it, sim-racing in VR is next-level. My first try was with an Oculus DK2 using LiveForSpeed, and I ended up ordering a headset within hours of...
When they talk about the PS5 really enabling them to do X, they are saying it that way because they have a partnership and marketing deal with Sony. It does NOT mean that ONLY the PS5 can do that.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Whoever said that might have been mistaken with that "XsX will have instant access to 100gigs at 4.4GB/s news headline" https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox-velocity-architecture-100-gb-is-instantly-accessible-by-the-developer-with-a-i-o-throughput-of-4-8-gb-s.1532436/#post-257451660 Definitely...
And if you can't see the obvious partnership between Epic and Sony here, I don't know what to tell you. Epic is trying to make their own engine look as awesome as possible so that it gets wide adoption. Sony is trying to make the PS5 look as powerful as possible, so they sell more consoles and games.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
A LOT of reminders about how the triangle density scales with the GPU though ;) Well spotted, even if true.
It's about money, obviously... And why do you think PS exclusives are starting to pop up on the Epic Game Store?
Whether Epic pushed Sony to deliver this I/O is possible, but is still speculation. The fact is that they are partnered up, and both are working together to make money. Obviously, they are going to talk each other up.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
I just realized something... With Epic demonstrating ripping film assets from Quixel and Z-Brush proving how good content can look on early PS5 hardware, can you imagine how Sony 1st parties can do even better on final devkits... WITH ATOM VIEW??? *faints*
And I bet those were among the posts that got me thread-banned from there... But wait. There is more!
Even though saying this in here can possibly get me killed, it was a marketing partnership between Sony and Epic.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Way higher just the announcement of the reveal will be worth a dozen pages :) Edit: We are doing about 10 pages a day if the announcement comes with a teaser image that may be worth 20 pages. With over 2 weeks to go we will be pushing 2150 is my guess. We should have a poll on which page...
Yeah because it makes total sense for the developer of a multiplatform engine to advertise and keep mentioning one specific console every chance he gets, even when it's not relevant to what he is explaining.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
It's in his Twitter replies when pushed by someone to make a comparison. He's also equally unable to give any indication when asked what kind of PC specs are required, saying he doesn't know, but we'll be able to benchmark UE5 soon enough. He's very clear on the distinction between engine and...
And the best one... Where I posted an article by Forbes, saying there most likely was a marketing deal, only to get slammed, ridiculed, accused of 'copying opinions' and a bunch of other nonsense;
Right now I feel like Shepard talking to the Council. Let me just throw this here.;
The simplest explanation is probably the right one here, that Epic has some sort of marketing deal in place with Sony and PlayStation, either for this presentation specifically (which was in effect an ad for the potential and power of the PS5) or perhaps more broadly with more collaborations to come down the line.
As a part of marketing campaigns, you often get notes as a stipulation of the arrangement where you’re not supposed to mention or promote the competition of the entity you’ve done the deal with. In this case, I could easily see the Epic team being told before this “please don’t mention Xbox,” hence all the back-breaking linguistic twists and turns they did to avoid mentioning it at all.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
PS5 tab has been there for a while. Wayback Machine says it's been there since March 19, the day after Mark Cerny's The Road to PS5 talk. EDIT: It's now been 2 months already since the talk. Man... We're that much closer. Almost to June already.
The truth is always revealed... All it takes is time...
#Ascendwasright
pasterpl
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and why are you so sure of this?
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this looks more like publisher logo
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Oddvintagechap
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This is so Sony doesnt have to pay Epic for Epic Store game sales.
sainraja
Member
Well, depends, if EPIC influenced what Sony did with the PS5. Their comments would still apply as they also invested time into the PS5.
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